Get ready for White House "LOG-GATE II" !

[Laura PourMeADrink]

I, for one, can not wait until May 10th ! That is the date that the Secret Service will release White House entry logs on Abramoff. I can not wait to match them with the unexplained Jeff Gannon entries posted below!

My guess, though is that the Abramoff records will somehow be sanitized, just like Gannon's. If you look at the Gannon log cited below- there are "check-ins" without "check-outs" and vice verse. 14 OF THEM !! Now, how in the hell do you explain that? Is the security around the misLeader of the free world that lax? I don't think so. Think about it, if you wanted to hide the fact that someone spent the night, what better way to do it than to create a scenario where the whole entry system looks flawed?

I predict they will do the same with Jack, as well.


Gannon's WH Visits...
Missing details in the Secret Service logs lead some to speculate that Gannon stayed overnight in the White House on several occasions. Most suggested poor record-keeping was more likely to blame, as Guckert wasn't shown checking in one day and leaving another; he was often shown checking in repeatedly while never having checked out (or the converse).

These logs, listing entry and exit show at least 14 times when Gannon either failed to check in (and then checked out) or checked in and failed to check out. Some critics also noted that Gannon had over 20 visits on days with no scheduled press briefing. Others pointed out that briefings often occurred despite not being scheduled. Gannon/Guckert's White House visits totalled 196 times.

The first set of times for each date is Guckert's login and logout. The second set is the briefing time. "No briefing" does not necessarily mean no briefing took place, only that none was scheduled by the White House press office.

To view WH logs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Gannon


Records of Abramoff's White House visits
5/1/2006, 6:57 p.m. CT
By TONI LOCY
The Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Secret Service has agreed to turn over White House visitor logs that will show how often convicted lobbyist Jack Abramoff met with Bush administration officials — and with whom he met.

http://www.nola.com/newsflash/washington/index.ssf?/base/politics-7/1146514469255530.xml&storylist=washington

[DS1]

1. Slapping "Gate" on the end of every single thing imaginable makes

a baby polar bear drown.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

7. Sorry. I love polar bears.

[leveymg]

2. Are you suggesting that Jack was cuddling with Rover?

Scotty? Dubya? Laura? All of them? Did Jack check in at the same time as Bulldog?

:party: :evilgrin: :loveya: :hug: :grouphug: :pals: :blush: :patriot: :rofl: :popcorn:

[lonestarnot]

3. too exciting.... ewwww yuck, can you imagine the sight of dat?

:puke:

[leveymg]

4. Can you imagine what an intelligence agency would do with those tapes?

Available only on DVD. Limited release.

[lonestarnot]

5. oh now lemme see. cia maybe, fbi, maybe, nsa for sure.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

6. Educate me.

Who's Bulldog? duh.

Hey, you are always my Plame expert. Has there been any connection made between Abramoff and the leak? We know that Gannon had the secret memo. I was really half kidding about connecting the two. Wouldn't that be somethin !

I am more interested in seeing if there is the same pattern of in's without outs and outs without ins. I wonder how the process works exactly. If you look at the logs for Gannon, they look computer generated.

So, what's the deal? Do you go in and just say "hi" to the SS? And they say, "Oh, I know him, he doesn't have to "punch" in?

[MADem]

8. Bulldog was Gannon's sex-worker name

He pretended to be a active duty Marine, thus the moniker.

The records are computer-generated. They are initiated through use of a key card. Most government buildings issue key cards at point of entry (there's a whole protocol where the guard calls up for the escort, issues the pass, and the escort comes and fetches them), and also assign some permanently to offices that have a high amount of traffic going in and out, so they can issue them themselves--like say, the Office of the Press Secretary.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

10. Yes, I had a key card when I worked

for an Agency last year. But, people who visited did not. So if I let someone in, it would be a record of my entry and no automated record of my visitors. So, at the WH, I guess the question would be, who's key card would be used to let someone in? The escort? The SC guard? And, did Gannon (or Talon) have a key card?

[MADem]

12. I worked in some high level offices, and we had a stack of our own

It saved time when sending someone down to grab regular visitors. Not all offices had a private stash, just the bigwigs who had frequent and high capacity visits. You still had to put their name in the system, but you could do it ahead of time from the office, and then you just handed them the card on a lanyard when they turned up, they swiped it and wore it. When they left, they swiped out and handed the permanent pass back to the escort, who brought it back to the office. It was a controlled item, and had to be accounted for every day, but it shaved about two to five minutes off the check in process, depending on how heavy the traffic was at the time the visitor arrived.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

14. Interesting. I just saw a blurb on the news saying the SS is saying

that some of the meetings w/Jack will not be reported. So obviously, their system is not a system. But, you would think that the WH would have a much more secure system and know exactly who came in and who went out. I mean hell, it's not like hundreds of people are in and out - you can't even get near the place last time I walked by it. I bet you a million B** et al want it that way - they are not much on public records.

[MADem]

16. It's the layers of security aspect

Actually, it's more like concentric circles. The USMC protective forces use a similar plan for protecting national security assets in their areas of responsibility. You draw circles around your subject, be it a SCIF full of highly classified material, or a principal, like some important bigwig, and the most secure circle is right next to that person or item. As you get further away from the important thing/person, the layers are less strenuous, and the vetting is less intense.

It's why, when you go on military installations that are properly laid out, that you can breeze into housing, but you might have to go through a gate or two, and a random search, to get near the flight line. It's why some parts of embassies are pretty public, and other sections are a constant drill to go from one area to the next.

And it's entirely possible that the systems are bifurcated, because one, simply due to a tight circle of security, has little chance of bleeding into the other without a third access checkpoint and someone who is authorized to go between the two zones.

Those reporters already know how it works, most of them. It isn't a huge secret, like Snotty tried to infer; it's a common-sense approach that has been the standard for years. The only secrets are the detail points, like what sort of badges or biometric passes are used, or how often codes are changed, or stuff like that.

That question was put to Snotty to push his button!

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

9. Did you also know that Bulldog is also the nickname of the Shrub's

old time school "buddy" Victor Ashe?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

11. yikes ! but you know what, B** strikes me as totally asexual.

[Atman]

13. Why not TOMORROW? or TODAY?

Do they need more time to cleanse them? I don't understand why it takes so long to simply release the documents unless, as with everything else going on in this admin, there is something nefarious going on.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

15. You're right. It reminds me of the time when they couldn't release

the Iraqi election results for HA, what was it 10 days??? something like that. I do think that they may have to cross-reference it.

If they only have an automated record of people with security passes, or key pads, then they may have to cross that against a paper visitor file???

HA, I know what will take them a while. They will find Jack visited say 20 times. Well since he visited Cheney or AssHat or Rove, they are having to make up new people that he met with. This will take time since they have to find others who (1) were there that day and time, and (2) have some legitmate reason why they would have to me with the felon.

HA HA, bet they have all the records spread out in the War Room as we speak....