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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 12:39 PM
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New Army DOCs Reveal US Knew & Approved Torture Before Scandal Broke
New Army documents reveal US knew of and approved torture before Abu Ghraib scandal broke

RAW STORY
Published: Tuesday May 2, 2006

BREAKING HARD -- FROM AN ACLU RELEASE TO RAW STORY.

New Army documents released by the American Civil Liberties Union today reveal that Lieutenant General Ricardo Sanchez ordered interrogators to "go to the outer limits" to get information from detainees. The documents also show that senior government officials were aware of abuse in Iraq and Afghanistan before the Abu Ghraib scandal broke.

"When our leaders allow and even encourage abuse at the 'outer limits', America suffers," said Anthony D. Romero, ACLU Executive Director. "A nation that works to bring freedom and liberty to other parts of the world shouldn't stomach brutality and inhumanity within its ranks. This abuse of power was engineered and accepted at the highest levels of our government."

Among the documents released today by the ACLU is a May 19, 2004 Defense Intelligence Agency document implicating Sanchez in potentially abusive interrogation techniques. In the document, an officer in charge of a team of interrogators stated that there was a 35-page order spelling out the rules of engagement that interrogators were supposed to follow, and that they were encouraged to "go to the outer limits to get information from the detainees by people who wanted the information." When asked to whom the officer was referring, the officer answered "LTG Sanchez." The officer stated that the expectation coming from "Headquarters" was to break the detainees.

more at:
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/New_Army_documents_reveal_US_knew_0502.html

Among the more than 9,000 pages of Defense Department documents made public by the ACLU today are several investigations detailing cruel and degrading treatment and killings. The investigations include:
Docs:
http://www.aclu.org/projects/foiasearch/pdf/DOD049269.pdf
http://www.aclu.org/projects/foiasearch/pdf/DODDIA000208.pdf
http://www.aclu.org/projects/foiasearch/pdf/DOD052120.pdf
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 12:40 PM
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1. To the Hague!
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 12:41 PM
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2. We knew this.
It just takes the press a few years to catch up with the rest of us.

We knew the torture was coming from the very top.

So what happens to Sanchez now? Nothing! Just like always.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 12:47 PM
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3. Right it was the soldiers who leaked this to Sy Hersch
through the soldier's father if memory serves. They knew they were going to get busted for it so one of them (the one who got years in jail and fathered Lynndie England's baby I THINK) sent a CD of pics to his dad and he sent it to Hersch and the ball was rolling. They wanted the brass who let this happen (yes TO them) to go down too but in the old boy system only the female General (who was responsible for Abu Gharib) has seen any real punisment.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 12:48 PM
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4.  ah Sanchez --yes we knew it--and some Senator is holding up his retire-
ment but I forget who.
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NoAmericanTaliban Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 12:50 PM
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5. Bush's new motto - The Buck Doesn't Stop Here
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 12:50 PM
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6. NOMINATE for the troops
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 12:52 PM
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7. We knew this
but it goes further


can all of you say... Secretary of Defense? I knew you could

Ah Nuremberg, the docket would be nice in Spring.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 12:54 PM
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8. Bu$hco: Beyond 'The Outer Limits'
Bu$hco: Beyond the "Twilight Zone."



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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 01:02 PM
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9. ahhh another day, another lie exposed...but move along..msm doesn't care!!
gee i wonder if *hes..people will be hopping mad about this enough to walk out of the white house..like they "walked out on colbert "..

or i wonder if *hes supporters will be mad enough ..to blow their toupees off over this??

nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...they will just stay on their knees giving more monicas to little lord pissy pants!



how many war crimes are going to be exposed..now..that those of us who paid attention knew all about..and now its new news...

but it this still won't make msm..because they are too busy being pissed off at colbert for exposing them all as little lord pissy pants monicas!

fly
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 01:02 PM
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10. The International Criminal Court Exists For People Like Them



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Greyskye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 01:19 PM
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11. K&R
:kick:
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 01:22 PM
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12. Quick, Rummy! Turn on the Ignore Ray and aim it at the media!
It's a smoking nucular weapon!
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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 04:13 PM
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13. Bound to happen.
I hope this is where DU theories stop being proven right, and fear it's not.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 04:28 PM
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14. "Rumsfeld Shouldn't be Fired, He Should be Indicted"
Rumsfeld Shouldn't be Fired, He Should be Indicted
by Matthew Rothschild

“Secretary Rumsfeld has publicly admitted that . . . he ordered an Iraqi national held in Camp Cropper, a high security detention center in Iraq, to be kept off the prison’s rolls and not presented to the International Committee of the Red Cross,” the report noted. The Geneva Conventions require countries to grant the Red Cross access to all detainees. “

http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0418-24.htm

Recently it has been found out that even more detainees were "ghost detainees". The fact that Rumsfeld has not been charged speaks volumes. If Congress wishes to garner any respect they should move forward with Rep. Rangle's Impeachment Declaration of Rumsfeld.

The US, Govt., Congress, and the Justice Dept no longer abide by the Geneva Convention or the Constitution of the USA.

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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 05:02 PM
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15. is that the sound of crickets from the McCAIN camp?????
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 05:17 PM
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16. Congress backed away from the issue of Torture.
They had a few meetings. Blah, blah and then shelved it. Busholini knew what was going on and condoned it. A real investigation would have meant a necessary Impeachment of Pres. VP and Rumsfailed. That was avoided by the Rethugs and most Dems.
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 09:41 AM
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17. Congress has backed away from just about every important issue
out there. We really need to get this deck shuffled. Big time.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 10:17 AM
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18. K&R
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