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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 01:29 PM
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Poll question: Is Comedy Central the only intellectually honest cable news station?
with the Daily show and Colbert Report?

What do you think?
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paul_fromatlanta Donating Member (545 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 01:31 PM
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1. dont forget Southpark
They are more topical and more honest than any of the networks.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 01:36 PM
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7. ...which moves me to the undecided column...
Seen it lately? Lies and distortions that defend the Bush agenda. Why, if it weren't a once-innocuous cartoon, I might be tempted to use the 'propaganda' word.

But cartoons can't be propaganda, right?
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paul_fromatlanta Donating Member (545 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 01:47 PM
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9. Cartoons as propoganda, absolutely - ever seen the Disney stuff from WW2?
Social conservatives tend to hate Southpark for "potty mouth" but they have gone after at least two liberal icons, Barber Streisand and AL Gore but frankly they go after anybody that acts pretentious - for example they made fun President Bush about Afghanistan anmd right wing Christians for their focus on money - They seemed to like President Clinton.

So while I would agree there is a conservative slant as in small government and pro capitalism and a libertarian slant in personal freedom it is a complex show and often a damn funny one. I didn't think the Scientology episodes were funny though.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 01:31 PM
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2. Sad to say but yes
They make a joke of the other stations product on a daily basis.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 01:32 PM
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3. It's FAKE news
Which sadly is more intellectually honest than most of the "real" news these days.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 02:27 PM
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16. But, see,
we've gone Through The Looking Glass.

The "fake" news is real.

The "real" news is fake.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 01:33 PM
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4. I'd like to see Comedy Central become a 24-hr. fake news channel.
At the very least, they could transform the entire late night, beginning with Jon Stewart, into "CC Overnight News".
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 01:35 PM
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6. That is a great idea
They could do a morning version of "Today" and "Good Morning America" which is ripe for satire.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 02:04 PM
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14. Yes! And a "Situation Room" with Wolfe & Cafferty (letters!) characters.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 01:35 PM
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5. Would the people who said 'No' please post which cable news station
is more honest, in their view?

For the record, I voted Yes. :)
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 01:36 PM
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8. C-SPAN nt
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 03:28 PM
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17. How can they be intellecutally honest?
The call in shows... they just take calls and report news.

The rest is just broadcasting stuff straight from DC.

:shrug:
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 04:11 PM
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23. Yep
Edited on Tue May-02-06 04:13 PM by Marie26
That's why. Fair & balanced to the extreme. There's no commentary or spin, they just show what's happening. And the call-in shows are always sure to include both perspectives. The hosts are low-key & unbiased. It's boring & educational like PBS. I think the intellectual honesty comes in the hosts they choose, and the events they choose to cover that no other outlet will touch (Feingold NSA hearings, Murtha resolution, Al Gore speech etc.)
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 04:45 PM
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26. I see what you mean...
However I meant that since there is no commentary, there is no opporunity for anyone to show any intellectual honesty.
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paul_fromatlanta Donating Member (545 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 01:49 PM
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10. I didn't vote "no" but the DirecTV NewsMix channel is the most honest
Of course, only DirecTV suscribers get it/.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 03:29 PM
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18. Thanks...
I haven't checked that out yet... but I will now!
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paul_fromatlanta Donating Member (545 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 03:50 PM
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19. Its also good without volume - its a 6 way split screen of the other news
channels
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ptolle Donating Member (423 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 04:48 PM
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27. directv=rupert murdoch
So your statement surprises me, but I've not seen the product so I'm not disputing your contention.Otherwise my vote goes to Keith Olbermann though MSNBC in general would not merit my support.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 01:50 PM
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11. Well, I do hate South Park, and Mind of Mencia I go back and
forth on. I agree with a lot of his arguments- in theory- but I just can't agree with blatant racism.

Other Comedy Central shows are just garbage. Drawn Together makes me want to puke. So stupid it's literally insulting.

TDS, TCR, Reno 911 and the late Chapelle's Show. Those are worthwhile Comedy Central endeavors.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 01:56 PM
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12. As long as we're going back in history
Let's not forget THE best TV show in television history, "Mystery Science Theater 3000".
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 04:50 PM
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28. You should check out "Wanderlust" if you ever get the chance.
Very, very funny. Trust me. :)
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 01:59 PM
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13. Link TV
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 02:08 PM
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15. You have problems...
if you get your news from Comedy Central. That is all I can say. I mean I like the Daily Show and The Colbert Report, but they are not 60 minutes (except for their puff pieces) or Meet The Press or the News Hour with Jim Lehrer. Aside from Washington Journal on C-Span there really aren't any sources of good news.
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rfrrfrrfr Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 04:53 PM
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29. Most people don't use them as a primary news source.
You miss the point. "The Daily Show With Jon Stewart" and "The Colbert Report" are comedy shows. Now even though they are a comedy show they do a much better job of actually reporting news. They have to tell you the news to make the joke. If you removed all the snark and made up bits many of the comentaries and interviews would make excellent starting points for a real journalist that was actually doing their job.

As you so aptly pointed out These shows are not a good primary news source, But and this is important even though they are lousy news sources they are still better news sources than the vast majority of the MSM other than KO,C-span and one or two other broadcasters. And you can actuall learn some new things and their take on the news can actually make you think about some of the things they are talking about and go do further research on your own. Which is way more than any MSM show can say.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 04:08 PM
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20. BBC coverage has been pretty sharp in the past
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 04:09 PM
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21. you forgot Keith Olbermann
But the other fools on MSRNC destroy that network.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 04:10 PM
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22. Unfortunately, yes.
I say unfortunate because it is, after all, Comedy Central. It's unfortunate that shows that are essentially parodies of news shows are more intellecutally honest than the real thing.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 04:12 PM
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24. They only reason I'd say no is because its not news
which is incredibly sad, as many others in the thread are saying, because it is the only honest thing resembling news.

And at least the good folks at the Daily Show and Colbert Report are nice enough to remind us constantly that they are not a news program...
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 04:36 PM
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25. but don't forget the Cartoon Network!!
There's a lot of truth in Adult Swim.
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