If Ben Burch is right - 36 days and counting.

[lonestarnot]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060502/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iran_israel_2;_ylt=AlTcntKtXHXkJYtfxJ9heuVSw60A;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl

[SmokingJacket]

1. Didn't Ben say June 7? nt

[lonestarnot]

2. Oh yes he did say June I will fix it.

[Nickster]

3. He did n/t

[benburch]

5. Yes.

And my sources have not budged from that.

I hope they are wrong!

[greyl]

8. Why do you think their opinion is worth sharing? nt

[benburch]

12. Because if I didn't share it, and they are correct...

...we lost a great opportunity to get in front of this thing and maybe derail it.

I really hope it doesn't happen, and that the GOP Crime Syndicate is telling the truth this time.

[greyl]

21. No, why do you think they are credible?

Your previous answer could apply to sylvia browne's bullshit, know what I mean? ;)

[benburch]

23. Three sources. Substantially the same story.

And I know one is connected to the upper levels of the GOP.

Seemed enough for me.

Like I say I really hope I am wrong, but if I had this warning and failed to say anything, I would have felt like a traitor.

[greyl]

26. My concerns are as follows:

The sources haven't been named, afaik.
Saying that the US has plans to invade Iran on a specific date causes some people to become resolved to the idea that it will happen, and that their voice of protest is futile.

[benburch]

35. If I named my sources...

They would have no more credibility to you, and would be of no future use to me.

And it would cost them dearly.

And is protest futile? Never. Even if, and especially if, what you are protesting is inevitable.

[serryjw]

28. I think you and your sources are correct

http://blogs.washingtonpost.com/earlywarning/2006/04/rumsfelds_craze.html

Have you read this>
quote........

According to all three intelligence sources, military and intelligence officials alike were alarmed that instead of securing a known terrorist organization, which has been responsible for acts of terror against Iranian targets and individuals all over the world – including US civilian and military casualties – Rumsfeld under instructions from Cheney, began using the group (MEK)on special ops missions into Iran to pave the way for a potential Iran strike.
end quote....
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/US_outsourcing_special_operations_intelligence_gathering_0413.html

[Jigarotta]

36. IIRC you were right about Katrina and the devastation...

You took a lot of heat for that here - predicting thousands dead and homeless, etc., before the storm hit NO and accused of unecessarily frightening people. Don't recall the details nor do I have a link. But you were at least majorly portioned right then,

Hope you're dead wrong on this one, but I wouldn't be surprised if something like that is coming down because I feel it's going to get a lot worse before there's a chance for things to get better.

[benburch]

38. I think that thread was finally deleted as a flame-fest. nt

[Wheezy]

75. yes, but I saw it

and believed you. And you were right.

I'm willing to keep listening.

[benburch]

84. And my sources could be wrong.

Or they could all three have heard the same detailed rumor or disinformation.

[Wheezy]

87. understood.

it's not like you're a god or something.
It's just 'using my ownself's judgment'.

;-)

[upi402]

98. i used to hope for That too n/t

[King Coal]

27. Ben, what did you say would happen?

Attacking Iran? They can't be that stupid, can they?

[benburch]

41. Sorry, didn't see your question earlier.

Yes, my sources say that we plan to attack Iran beginning June 7th.

I hope they are wrong.

[robertpaulsen]

50. benburch, what do you think of this possibility?

I don't know if any of your sources are aware of this, but I found this fascinating:

Cheney laid out Iran War plan Aug '05: terror attack here then bomb Iran
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1075858

[benburch]

82. Chilling.

I don't know if they are aware of it.

[bananas]

60. Ben, you also said "a MAJOR crackdown on dissent"

Any more details on this?

"The same little bird tells me that there will be a MAJOR crackdown on dissent near that date. Not on terrorism. On freedom of speech."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x895089

[benburch]

62. That's all the detail I got at the time.

And I've gotten no more since, sorry.

[robertpaulsen]

109. If there's a major crackdown on dissent, the BFEE is prepared for it.

It appears the newly formed U.S. Detention camps are for real.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=499461

[mmonk]

85. June 7th, the new D Day?

Sheesh, I plan to be in Canada in early June. If it starts after we cross the border, will it be difficult to get back in?

[sarcasmo]

120. That might not be a bad thing if they really do crack down on free speech.

Make sure your kids and personal documents go with you, birth certificate with the seal.

[Freddie Stubbs]

116. Don't forget the "MAJOR crackdown on dissent near that date"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=895089

[BR_Parkway]

31. wouldn't 06/06/06 be a better date? Gawd's own invasion.

[benburch]

37. Yes, but that wasn't the story.

Sorry.

[Freddie Stubbs]

128. Any budging in the past week?

The day of reckoning is fast approaching.

[stepnw1f]

20. All Hell Will Break Loose

if dipshit and his fuck-up Neo-knobs do this. Fuck here... the whole World just so some mealy mouthed brat can prove a point.

[Freddie Stubbs]

119. Yes, that is what he said

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=895089

Only 30 days to go!

[spuddonna]

4. Hey, don't get me all worried like that!

I haven't stockpiled enough whiskey, or even flipped the calendar into May yet! Gotta have a little more time to prepare!

This is the one time I hope benburch is wrong... :(

[HereSince1628]

6. The new moon in June is the 2nd.

Moonless nights are what the USAF wants for their attacks.

[benburch]

9. Moonlesss when over target.

Ideal time to strike anybody is about 3AM when reaction times are slowest.

[sarcasmo]

121. Ben, any idea if an underground Nuke would have any fallout, or

affect global climates like a normal Nuke would?

[Sammy Pepys]

13. Are moon phases the same all over the globe?

I have no idea, that's why I'm asking....

[benburch]

14. Yes.

:)

[notadmblnd]

117. Isn't June 2nd the day they plan to

set that bomb of in the Arizona dessert?

[walldude]

118. Nevada.. and yes that's the date.

[jpak]

7. The Divine Strake test is scheduled for June 3

They should know shortly thereafter if a mininuke could take out Iran's Natanz nuclear facility...

[leftchick]

29. it won't take it out

but it will take out a lot of human beings.

[MADem]

10. Well, it would be an air war, then

It's hot as a bastard there in summer. And we don't have the weather-seasoned forces to do anything else. And we sure as hell don't have any friends to help us....

[benburch]

11. Think nuclear first use.

Just my opinion.

[HereSince1628]

22. But nukes and Iranian nuke infrastructure probably won't be the first

targets hit. Indeed the nuke institutions may be LAST.

It seems that the priorities will be:

1) Suppress detection/air defense

i. radar, anti-aircraft, anti-missle and communications sites
ii. Iranian air force facilites.


2) Suppress the potential for counter attacks
the priorities would probably be based on the level of percieved risks first.

2a) this could include attempts to "decapitate" the Iranians

2b) it certainly will involve targeting
i. Iranian short-range ballistic missle sites
ii. Iranian cruise missle sites
iii. Iranian submarine forces
iv. Iranian air force
iv. Iranian anti-ship missle sites along the Straits of Hormuz

3) Iranian nuclear facilities seem to actually contribute little to their counter-attack capability. Consequently they are going to be near the bottom of priorties and hence placement on sorties. Universities and research institute house the brains that develop the technology to make and the knowledge of what is required to make nuclear weapons. These sites are easier to hit and consequently just as likely to be hit as are nuclear facilities proper.

This long list is what makes US air assault so unattractive. It means attacking 400 to 500 sites and making sure that the rubble gets bounced once or twice. The mission must go well beyond a "surgical" strike on nuclear infrastructure.

[benburch]

24. Oh, of course.

The Iranian Nuclear Infrastructure isn't WORTH hitting, and the GOP Crime Syndicate knows that. They have no capacity to do more than weakly-enrich Uranium in very small quantities. Even were they headed for a bomb, they are years away. FAR more likely they have purchased one from North Korea.

[HereSince1628]

32. The only thing I see driving US use of a tactical nuke is lack of iron

bombs. Between bomb consumption in Iraq and the bombs required for earlier targets in a hypothetical Iranian attack, US stores may get too low to allow the repeated hits it would take to dig out and destroy buried and hardened targets with conventional weapons.

[benburch]

39. They want to TEST these new weapons.

I see that as the motivation.

[HereSince1628]

43. Maybe, but they aren't going to recover nearly as much

data from the blast site of a deployed weapon as they would from a detonation at a control site.

I sure don't put it past BushCo to use an untested weapon.

[benburch]

83. Use a nuke against population once and get away with it...

And everybody will bow to you no matter what you ask for thereafter.

A controlled test doesn't give you that.

[TexasLawyer]

18. It would be an air war AT FIRST

I would look for anonymous ground retaliations all over the Middle East-- with our guys in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere as sitting ducks.

It makes me ill to think about it.

[MADem]

33. If it's anything other than that, my old ass will be recalled

Not looking forward to that scenario, at all.

[Horse with no Name]

15. The one thing that really bothers me

is that there isn't ANY way possible to pull our troops out of Iraq or Afghanistan BEFORE this crazy shithouse rat President would do something that stupid.
It would be a strategic blunder and would tip our hand.
My question is what happens to all of our military that are already in Iraq and Afghanistan if he nukes Iran?
The middeast will go up in a mushroom cloud.
Where will our military be??

[atreides1]

19. What will happen to the military in Iraq

They'll die in droves, along with innocent Iraqis and whatever remains of the coalition of the willing.

As for Afghanistan, it's very likely that a major uprising will occur and the NATO forces will really be in a world of sh*t.


But as long as they're dying over there and not over here, Chimpy and his followers will be estatic!!!!

[Horse with no Name]

45. AND

would be a very good reason to start a draft.

[Renew Deal]

34. I think it was Riverbend that said that there would be 150,000 hostages.

They basically said that our troops would be Iran's hostages as Iran goes nuts.

[Jigarotta]

51. How would the troops try to get out of Iraq?

There is only one way out that I know of, through Kuwait.
That's a long gauntlet of angered waiting Shiites....

[Renew Deal]

54. Who said anything about getting out?

They would likely be part of the war plan.

[leftchick]

67. take it one further and add China and Russia into the mix

suppose they start arming the mid-east resistance fighters? Our Military would be TOAST! That is why some brave Joint Chief should stop this hell before it starts.

:nuke:

[insane_cratic_gal]

16. It would be the mouse that finally sinks the ship

They don't have much buoyancy left. If they do this .. it's over for them. The American public will go ballistic (literally)

[ldf]

69. you vastly overestimate the american populace

we don't give a shit about anything, as long as we are entertained nightly with reality shows, gossip shows, and have neat new movies to see every weekend.

half the people don't even really know where iraq and iran is on the globe. why should they care? it's happening over there, not here.

cynical? yes, but i think we have been dumbed down to the point of no return. we are beyond selfish, and if it doesn't affect us, who cares?

i can only hope that we have not sunk that low.

edit to add...

isn't one of the prerequisites of the apocalypse the destruction of israel? they may know EXACTLY what kind of disaster they are setting up.

:scared:

[pauliedangerously]

86. That's a frightening, but excellent point...

If Bush truly is the freakshow Christian he says he is, then the destruction of Israel is no doubt part of his diabolical plan. Religious rhetoric aside, Israel is a big pain in the ass for this country anyway. I could see the wingnuts taking a shot at Iran just to devastate Israel and destroy their nuclear arsenal.

If I could only know all of the facts I'd be more than happy to keel over and die tomorrow. This whole spectacle we are presented with is fascinating, horrifying, and downright intriguing.

[KAT119]

81. Their are astrologic & psychic predictions that "Butch"Co is going DOWN

HARD in June. I can certainly visualize a huge uprising if he attacks. 33% of Americans want him gone (incarcerated-indicted-impeached etc.) that is 100 million of us!!

The threat of a nuclear strike is an imprisonable war crime at the International Criminal Court...where are the enforcers?? Even if Butch 'didn't join' the ICC.

It would also seem probable that the US would be summarily removed from this planet by a coalition of our innumerable enemies to eradicate such an out of control dangerous cancer as our current gov't BEFORE * strikes!

[insane_cratic_gal]

106. Like Colbert said "this administration isn't sinking it's soaring"

If anything, they are rearranging the deck chairs on the Hindenburg."






I don't foresee BushCO being able to make that plan a reality, no matter what predictions might state. Do they have the potential? Yes of course, first evil bastards in a long time.

However, Tyranny never rules supreme all it does is unites a people to rise above it.

[sam sarrha]

17. i will become a christian for a month to pray for military intervention

..march him out of the White House under armed guard, arms and ankles shackled to a belt.. like the army guy who visited the porno website..

[Virginia Dare]

25. For what it's worth....

as I was passing through the Pentagon this a.m., there was a big bunch of officious looking dudes in flight suits heading in. I mean WTF do you need a flight suit in the Pentagon for?

(On the other hand, they've had the desk jockeys wearing their B.D.'s at the Pentagon since we've been "at war", but it's the first time I've seen a large group of A.F. flight suits going in). Getting their orders?

Maybe some military people out there can enlighten us on the significance, if any, of that.

[lonestarnot]

48. Rugh Ro! Zipper freaks in uniform not a good sign at any time.

Dunno re Pentagon activity though. Doesn't sound good to me.

[Octafish]

76. Know what you mean about chains...

Crazy Monkey

[lonestarnot]

101. Hey Octafish!

Zippers zippers and more zippers. I was referring to the pilot suits. That's what we used to call the pilots when I was in, zipper freaks with egos like doctors and lawyers. I think we are in real trouble here!

[mmonk]

88. Wouldn't call that normal at all. Trying to make my sleep

restless tonight?

[blonndee]

30. If Ben Burch is right,

every single one of us needs to get our asses to D.C.

[Kailassa]

40. This is probably a silly question, but ...

how fond is B* of Israel?

Is there any chance that Iran's threats to retaliate at Israel if America attacks it
could be a carrot rather than a stick?

It sounds to me to be an easy way for this twisted idiot to do something about another competitor for oil.

Or to get revenge for some imagined insult.

[benburch]

42. Bush cares not at all about Israel.

Bush cares nothing for anybody except when they might be useful to him.

[spinbaby]

44. Question

I was planning some international travel (Asia) on June 8th. Should I rethink that or am I just being overly paranoid?

[benburch]

46. I wouldn't change it.

The Far East is rather far from Iran.

[uppityperson]

47. Question about timing, I remember last yr saying varied times

I think it was sometime in March, and again in August that USA was going to attack Iraq based on "sources". Not to downplay and say that it won't happen now, feeling in my gut that they will, but wondering why believe now when a for sure has been pronounced before and nothing happened?

Protest is needed NOW, no matter what anyways. And thank you for sharing all this.

[benburch]

57. I wish I had the answer. nt

[uppityperson]

59. thanks, hoping we are all wrong but only hoping. nt

[Blue_Tires]

49. i don't know

i don't think there has been enough pro-iran-war BS in the media to shape public opinion yet....as i think back, it took MONTHS of constant media bombardment and pentagon-planted stories before the public was in a "kill 'em all" frenzy

[motocicleta]

66. I agree about the lack of pro war bs, but

the ground is different now. Pro war bs isn't going to fly right now the way it did in late 02. On the other hand, if there actually is another 9/11 type event ... you don't really need to do the propaganda work if you can come right out and blame Iran.

[Blue_Tires]

93. i concur

it will take another terror attack (wink wink) to get the public to go along with this (outside of that stubborn 30 percent)....

it may not even be in the u.s....the attack could happen in Iraq or Israel and just as easily be blamed on Iran

[Thtwudbeme]

52. I have been on DU the whole time BenBurch has

and I have never once seen that man post a falsehood.

I hope his sources are wrong; however, that would not lower my opinion of BenBurch in any way. He was only posting what he was told by three seperate sources that he trusts.

Stephanie

[benburch]

53. I did lie once.

I once said that "Ed Schultz is OK", which was a make-nice lie. I can't stand him.

[Thtwudbeme]

55. Ed Schultz is such a putz.

I can't believe anyone on DU wastes their time with him.

I LOVED the thread where he was exposed by an anonymous source, and a poster wrote "I worked with him, this is true," and was totally ignored by all the DUers flipping out on you.

Ridiculous.

[lonestarnot]

112. He belongs on the lumba pig and pony show

[lonestarnot]

56. Are you anticipating backlash? I'm here to defend Ben also in that

event

[Thtwudbeme]

63. He's been slammed for that prediction

Some DUer's can't seem to understand "my sources that have been reliable in the past" comments--

I will always back Ben up.

[lonestarnot]

100. He can count on me.

[sweetheart]

58. no

Anyone who would be behind that would be guilty of high treason, *anyone*.

They want to fight the civil war over again. Last time it killed
2% of the population. 2% of 6 billion... One hundred and twenty million.

T R E A S O N

[benburch]

61. Here is the original thread.

Locked so as not to alarm y'all.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=895089

[redacted]

64. Thanks for the link Ben, boy I hope you're in tinfoil hat land. I really

do hope that.

I used to hear things like this and say "awww, it's the tin foil." (ah the good ol' days).

Now I hope upon all hopes that things like this are tinfoil.

Probably if it doesn't happen -- it was not because the story was tinfoil -- but because someone somehow interevened.

[benburch]

65. I had a jewish friend with an Aluminum Yarmulke...

He forgot his and didn't remember til he was on the bus to school. Well, first hour was his metalworking shop class, so he milled out one from an aluminum block.

So, to hell with a tin FOIL hat! Give me an Aluminum Yarmulke!

[walldude]

89. LOL Aluminum Yarmulke, it'd make a great band name..... n/t

[redacted]

108. There's GOT to be an Adam Sandler joke there somewhere. LOL.

[KoKo]

107. I think the "Other Powers" are trying to stop it...and here's why.......

why else would that mediawhore Matthews do that interview with two CIA agents grilling them and having them answer that we went into Iraq based on Cherrypicked info selected by Cheney.

Matthews was picked to focus on this...to show that "intelligence on Iran" is also faulty. GE must have decided bombing Iran is not a good thing. However it's probably more than GE who are "getting the word out."

So, your "little birds" are probably correct...but there's going to be pushback. Will it be enough?

Check this out if you missed it last night. I was shouting for DU'ers to watch this because I thought it was so important:

-------------------------------------------------------
CHRIS MATTHEWS: HARDBALL

MSNBC
Updated: 8:37 p.m. ET May 2, 2006

Did President Bush lead our country to war based on faulty intelligence, or did his administration twist and cherry-pick the information for a war they had already decided to start?

Somebody is responsible for this war. Is it the president, the politicians in Congress who voted to authorize the war, the military who saluted Bush three years ago when the war was popular who are now calling for Defense Secretary Rumsfeld’s resignation, or was it cooked intelligence from the administration?

Two high-ranking CIA operatives who were actively involved in the run-up to the war answered this question and more.

Tyler Drumheller was the CIA’s chief of operations in Europe until he retired last year. He says that the White House ignored warnings that Iraq did not have weapons of mass destruction.

Gary Berntsen is a former CIA field officer who served on the ground in Afghanistan. He says the military let Osama bin Laden get away because they didn’t commit the right amount of forces to get him. He’s also the author of “Jawbreaker: The Attack on bin Laden and al Qaeda.”

This is a transcript of their conversation.

CHRIS MATTHEWS, HOST, "HARDBALL": The case made by the president of the United States in his State of the Union in 2003, was that Saddam Hussein was purchasing uranium materials in Niger in order to build nuclear weapons to use against us.

We were warned by Condi Rice and others there would be a mushroom cloud if we waited around for a smoking gun. The case was made to smart people in this country, and they bought the case. We faced a nuclear threat.

Then afterwards, the administration outed Valerie Plame Wilson, because they wanted to punish, apparently, Joe Wilson for coming out and outing them and saying there never was a deal with Niger. Am I right on that?

TYLER DRUMHELLER, FMR. CIA EUROPEAN OPS. CHIEF: That’s the way it appears. You’re certainly right on the fact that the information that was in the State of the Union Address was inaccurate, and that the yellowcake reporting from Niger, the reports that had come in on the issue of yellowcake were well-known to have been discredited as far back as September and October.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12601112/

[gordianot]

68. The GOP cannot afford to be defeated in November 2006.

As drastic as a war in Iran may be, they cannot afford to lose power and have the skeletons revealed. There are too many, too drastic, outrageous acts some hiding in plain sight.

We have and are continuing to lose our soul.

[titoresque]

70. Diebold

or another 9/11 staged attack and elections are suspended.
They're not afraid of elections, they've already figured those out and have gotten away with it more than once. They're not afraid of losing power.

[gordianot]

71. Iran is the latest staged attack.

The margin of error this time may be hard for the electronic vendors to explain.

The one puke I know who might well know what is going on is scared.

Basically I agree but some of the GOP faithful are becoming scared.

[titoresque]

72. they don't really give

much effort into explaining. They apparently don't have to anymore.
They've gotten away with so much already, and the Patriot Act pretty much sealed the deal. I just don't think the American people are a big concern to them and the choices they make. We are just sort of along for the ride.

[motocicleta]

74. Can you explain just a little further?

I understand the margin of error line, and to some degree the GOP faithful line, but the middle somehow both sends a chill up my spine and baffles me.

[gordianot]

80. He works at the State level and firmly believes will be an Iranian attack

What and how he might know this I do not know, but he travels in high GOP circles. He does not like the thought of a nuclear war. I've known him for a long time he was a jerk 40 years ago and still is a Puke asshole.

[motocicleta]

95. Oh Jesus

Thanks gordianot.

[mopinko]

73. impeach now

it's the little engine that could, but it is the only train going in the opposite direction. ben says it won' get there, but i got a ticket anyway.
hop aboard. go to the link in my sig.

[MiniMe]

77. Should be June 6, somehow 6/6/6 would be appropriate for this bunch

[bananas]

78. June 7 morning in Iran is June 6 afternoon in the U.S.

June 7 what time zone? Iran or U.S.?
If the attack is June 7 early morning Iran time,
it will still be June 6 in the U.S.
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=246

[benburch]

79. Not a clue!

You got all I have!

[MiniMe]

90. Interesting, Thanks!

[lonestarnot]

103. 6/6/06 National Stay Home Under the Bed Day.

:scared:

[Swamp Rat]

91. I hope Ben is wrong

but I suspect he is right. :yoiks:

[benburch]

92. Amen, bother! nt

[Nomen Tuum]

96. The sad truth is Bush WANTS Armageddon

He really believes that God has anointed him for the end times. What's worse is that 90% of the Republicans in Congress believe the same Rapture shit. They really believe that Jesus is going to suck em up before the nukes fall.

That's why they don't give a shit about anything and they're letting the red ink run.Godless Democrats are gonna be stuck with the mess.

This is the shit that my family believes.

What so scares me is that I fully expect Israel to get blown off the map after Iran is nuked. I really believe that either Russian or Chinese nukes will fall on Israel and wipe Tel Aviv and Jerusalem off the map as punishment for President Caligula's nuking of Iran

I have never been so scared in my life. No matter how hard I try, I can't wake my family up. They're totally brainwashed by Jesus and they can't wait to be sucked up with their fellow Republicans.

[sarcasmo]

123. I don't know whats worse the Rapture crap or Islam and their Virgins.

[Jazzgirl]

94. Ben...I trust you but I hope to God you are off the hook

this time. I too am frightened and have been for a while. These dickheads are absolutely crazy. I think Cheney is the one that has always done the dirt and *shrub is the puppet just like he's always been made out to be. He doesn't run shit. The fact that they're even using the same justification just like Iraq and everybody has pointed it out and they don't care. They keep doing it anyway. Sleezy keeps talking the same talk, Bolt-ass keeps saying the same crap....this is crazy!!! Wish I lived in another country about now....

:scared:

[magellan]

97. Bolt-ass, lol

He's a lying sack of cow dung. I'm sure this was discussed earlier today but I watched him taking questions from Waxman et al this morning. The POS outright lied about everything including the use of US military in Iran so far, and MEK's involvement at US behest.

It's scary watching these bastards lie. It's like breathing to them.

Like everyone else I hope benburch is wrong. The thing that terrifies me is BushCo aren't known for blowing hot air. They're psychopaths -- even if it isn't June 7th they'll eventually have what they want unless someone stops them once and for all.

[Robbie Michaels]

99. Ben's Always On The Money

I'll let him slide on the Ed Schultz is okay statement. :-)

Seriously, mark your calendars and let's do something before then!

[Freddie Stubbs]

105. Do what?

:shrug:

[Freddie Stubbs]

102. But what about the predicted " MAJOR crackdown on dissent near that date?"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=895089

Any word on that?

[Robbie Michaels]

110. Well...

There were supposed to INS roundups on Monday and did that happen?

[Freddie Stubbs]

115. Nope

[benburch]

125. No word.

I should know more next week some time.

[Junkdrawer]

104. Mind Games

Imagine the following scenario:

Starting in March, an escalating drumbeat starts. “The US plans a preemptive nuclear attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities.” Intelligence agents are leaking to top-notch reporters. The reports are credible enough that Iran starts warning of a counter attack.

Bolton goes to the UN to seek a Chapter 7 resolution with a military clause.

Rice, Bush, Rumsfeld all warn that if the UN doesn’t do it, they’ll act alone.

Then rumors hit the Internet: The plan is on and there’s a date: June 7, 2006.

The drumbeat grows louder and louder and then, on June 6th, there’s a massive terror attack. Immediately, the fingers point to Iran. Iran proclaims it’s innocence, but everyone knows they did it to warn off the attack. In the war of nerves, Iran twitched first.

Bush is quietly blamed for provoking the attack, but no one wants to publicly go there, considering the anger that follows the attack. And folks who question just where the attack DID come from are immediately ostracized – if not physically threatened by their angry neighbors.

[lonestarnot]

111. kick'n and scream'n!

:kick:

[lonestarnot]

114. I don't think this imagined scenario is far off.

[uppityperson]

113. Happy High school graduation UPjr!

fuck

[mdmc]

122. bring it on!

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i AM READy!

[WobbliesUnite]

124. I have a relative who says either this weekend or the next

She is married to some high level brass mucky-muck. She seems worried when I talk to her. Not like her to go squeamish either.

[nadinbrzezinski]

127. On another point your screen name is funny

Word of Blake, if you took it for what I think you took it, this is ironic given what thread you are posting on... oh and welcome to DU

[WobbliesUnite]

129. Huh?

[Freddie Stubbs]

130. High level brass mucky-mucks are supposed to keep thier mouth shut

Even to their spouses.

[Rainscents]

126. Ben, I believe you right from beginning, tread you posted on April 10, 06.

I have no doubt in my mind, these fuckers are going to do it. I am scare to death over this... whole world is going to turn up side down. :yoiks: