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Dr Ron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 03:48 PM
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Hardball or Softball?
Just got this by email. Will they really play Hardball, or will Tweety cover up for Bush:


Tonight: a Hardball Special Report on how we went to war in Iraq. Did President Bush lead our country to war based on faulty intelligence or did his administration twist and cherry-pick the information for a war they'd already decided to start? Who is responsible for the war? Tonight, a Hardball investigation with high-ranking CIA operatives who were actively involved in the run-up to the war. Chris talks to two former CIA officials who know: Tyler Drumheller, the former chief of operations for the CIA in Europe, and Gary Berntsen, a former CIA field commander who was on the ground in Afghanistan pursuing Osama bin Laden and author of the book "Jawbreaker." They'll both talk about failures and fights within the U.S. intelligence community that led up to the invasion of Iraq. Did the White House purposely dismiss information that didn't bolster the case for war? Is there still a battle between the CIA and the White House over intelligence? Could political agendas and power struggles lead the U.S. into a military confrontation with Iran?
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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 03:55 PM
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1. Is This Really A Necessary Question?
I mean, come on. A better question is whether it will be Softball or Nerfball.

Hardball? Hardly.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 04:00 PM
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2. Tweety has time and time again said they cherry-picked intelligence
Tweety has best Plamegate coverage on TV, and has told wingnuts that the reason the story is important is that it shows the lengths they were willing to go to sell this false war.

Tweety has time and time again dismantled bushbots over Bush's "reasons" to go to war.

Yes he pisses me off sometimes, but he is neither Hannity nor O'reilly. I would expect this show will be interesting.
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Dr Ron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 04:02 PM
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4. I guess I shouldn't have given up on him
It sounds like he's doing a better job lately, at least on "reasons" for going to war.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 10:09 PM
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9. Oh he will still aggravate you - but that's what the FForward button's for
EOM
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 04:01 PM
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3. Well, it's unlikely that it will be BALLS-o-licious, in any event n.t
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Hoping4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 04:06 PM
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5. Forget Hardball or Softball. Tweety is Noball.
:shrug:
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Sapere aude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 04:15 PM
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6. There will be no conclusive answer and both sides will feel they won.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 04:19 PM
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8. Yes, I think we've all seen this episode many times already
LOL
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 04:18 PM
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7. The answer is yes
The administration did lead us to war based on faulty intelligence, and the administration did deliberately cherry-pick intel and ignore any reports that ran contrary to anything they wanted to hear.


Both should be treated as serious crimes.


I can't believe these moderates and right wingers who say, "It was faulty intel", as though thats some sort of excuse. Bad intel or not, Bush is still "the decider". He made the choice to go to war. He should accept blame.

And, besides, its irrelevant whether or not the intel was bad, because Bush has said repeatedly that, knowing then what he knows now, he still would have gone to war.
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