Hmm maybe I should leave DU

[DanCa]

I think I need a break from DU and politics all together. I sure have been getting it from both ends lately here's a quick check list:

1: I have a President who thinks that a fetus has more rights than a disabled person

2: I have so called Christians saying that I shouldn't go to church because I am pro separation of church and state, for gay rights, for stem cell research, and pro choice.

3: I have ass hats who actually laughed at me for praying science to discover a cure for Parkinson's and to give me personal inner peace.

4: The grammar cops are after me because my hands tremor constantly and sometimes my fingers misspell words. (I would like to see them type when they can't feel the keyboard thanks to the side effects of medication.)

5: Now I got the ass hats saying that I am living in the lap of luxury on SSDI when I can barely afford rent and medicine. Yeah I got a tv it was a Christmas present from my family sue me

:shrug:.

You know what strikes me as kinda funny ? I always assumed that Liberalism meant that your supposed be tolerant of others and take care of those that don't have anything. :shrug: I guess I should have remembered what happens when we assume. So where does that leave me in all this? To paraphrase the old song I got clowns to the left of me and jokers to the right and here I am stuck in the middle again.

So anyway in conclusion I think that I might be leaving at least for a little while. I just wanted to let some of the people on this forum know that I might be leaving and that I love you guys dearly. And that if I didn't care about you guys the decision to leave wouldn't be so painful :hug:

Note to the grammar police I ran the spell check twice on thie piece. If this is still wrong blame the DU spell checker for being hugh or sirius. :sarcasm:

[MissB]

1. Don't let the few asshats ruin it for you.

Stick around. I enjoy your posts. :hug:

[ShortnFiery]

2. I here ya!

The grammar police are always busting my balls abe-it <looking down> I have nun. :P

On Edit: There's a few of us who don't really care about that tripe. We understand and often make the same mistakes. And hell, that's totally un medicated.

Hang in there for us. ;)

[gatorboy]

3. While yer out, tell Pitt we said hi!

:hi:

I keed, I keed!!! :P

[blm]

4. It gets tough here, but, don't quiet your voice because some insensitive

morons think they alone have the answers for everybody.

[eleny]

5. "in the lap of luxury on SSDI"

They're nuts. And you aren't. :hug: :hug: :hug:

[Carni]

72. What in hell thread was THAT on?

That's just rude in general--this place does have it's assholes.

Sorry to hear you're fed up!

[Ladyhawk]

125. Wow, I'm living in luxury, too, then! I had no idea!

I guess I should feel lucky that I had to eat Cream of Wheat for ten days straight at the end of one month. I had no idea it was so glamorous. :shrug: Huh...ya learn something new every day!

[uppityperson]

6. Don't let the assholes ruin it for you

mostly there are good people here, some aren't so nice and it is hard to ignore them.

[xmas74]

7. Check your mail.

[Sammy Pepys]

8. Ehh...don't let a bunch of jerks ruin it for you.

BTW, it's "Now I have the ass hats saying that I am living in the lap of luxury...."

C'mon dude, I'm just teasing ya! :evilgrin: :hi: :toast:

[KamaAina]

9. Put the asshats on Ignore

and keep on postin'!

[M155Y_A1CH]

138. Second that

The ignore feature is the fastest way to be rid of freeper noise.

It will save you a couple of days (weeks, maybe)
of listening to their tripe before they get banned.

[Jigarotta]

10. take a break and come back a swingin'.

I never pay attention to word police - that's so anal when i before e except after c is more important than the message.

so rest up, and come back asap!

:hug:

[charlie]

11. Aw shit

Fuck those clowns. Twice. You're the man, Dan, don't let them do it to you. Hell, this ridiculous old atheist will pray with you, alright? They can laugh at both of us. Howzzat? Stick around?

[DrDebug]

12. Use my excuse

The spelling checker doesn't work on Opera and I have a slight dyslexia and tend to intermingle two sentences.

Edit: QED

[DoTheRightThing]

65. that'sok!

[DrDebug]

69. Welcome DoTheRightThing

Love the username.

:toast:

[Pastiche423]

13. Danny

Take a break. We all need one from time to time. What's going on in our country makes everyone nuts.

But please don't stay away. Especially for the reasons you cited. I agree w/every single one of them.

I sometimes (mostly) think it's harder for those of us w/disabilities. People w/o a disability just don't understand.

Victoria
Another PDW

For those out there that are unfamilar w/"PDW, it means People with Disabilities.

[IntravenousDemilo]

60. Why is PDW short for People With Disabilities? n/m

[Pastiche423]

67. It's called a typo

It should have been PWD. But if you had taken time to READ the rest of my post, you could have "gotten it".

Anything else you'd like to clear up?

[IntravenousDemilo]

81. Oh. I did read it.

I figured once is an accident, twice is on purpose, like when professional wrestlers think POWW is short for Powerful Women of Wrestling.

[KitchenWitch]

110. I have dyslexia

I often mistype things repeatedly that look alright to me, but I get nailed to the wall for it. The poster that posted PDW may be dealing with the same thing.

[IntravenousDemilo]

117. Ahh...

[Dr Fate]

14. Oh no you dont- I'm e-mailing you scans of my comic someday.

After law finals this month- I'll really have some good pre-production stuff that I'll want your opinion on!

Take a break- I do it all the time- but leave DU? You must be forgetting that blood oath.

Hang in there- you are one of the good 'uns.

[coffeenap]

15. Well, little old insignificant me wishes you the best, DanCa. I have

followed many of your posts and understand the position you find yourself in. I also wish that you could find a way to stay here. We all need each other to keep ourselves sane. I guess that with 88,000 participants there are bound to be idiots, but I have also witnessed some absolutely wonderful interactions here as I know you have as well. Liberalism does mean tolerance, and not just tolerance, but acceptance and maybe even nurture! The people who don't exhibit these characteristics need to find somewhere else to go, imo. Best wishes. :hug:

[Robbien]

16. My grammar stinks

I expect any day the grammar police here will pile on. Combine that with genetic arthritis in my fingers and I am a sitting duck.

Your posts are well worth the read.

Just stay here and irritate the heck out of them.

[area51]

17. Don't leave, Dan.

:hug:

[seabeyond]

18. just dont take things personally. people on the net love to be outrageous

and say the meanest ugliest things, knowing they will never be eye to eye. they dont know you, cannot have a clue about you. why take it personally. if they are ugly it is all about them, says nothing about you

take care of yourself, whatever you decide to do

but truly,..... dont take it personally.

[LSK]

19. dont let a minority form your opinion of the majority

Hang out in the lounge when times get rough and go back to GD when you have the strength for it. Or just read the greatest threads and dont post in GD.

Do what you have to do, but pay no mind to the asshats and please come back.

:hi:

[stray cat]

20. Lots of America is stuck in the middle so you are in good company

Best wishes whatever you decide.

[Richard Steele]

21. You better not go away for too long!

There are only about five people here who
actually find my nonsense amusing,
so that makes you a good 20 percent of my entire fanbase!

And it works the other way too:
I automatically read every thread of yours that I come across.
If you go, I'll be jonesin' for my Dan-fix in no time!

[Debi]

22. Don't forget Jimmy Buffet - Fins

"Can't you feel 'em circlin', honey
Can't you feel 'em swimmin' around
You got fins to the left, fins to the right
And you're the only bait in town"

If asshats didn't pick on you they'd pick on somebody else - soon enough they'll bore of you and move on to new prey.

Hope you stick around :hi:

[SeattleGirl]

23. Check your PM

:hug:

[1956]

24. I know of a health product that may help...

You said a cure for Parkinson's..do you or someone else have this disease? A little FYI... They say no disease can thrive when ph is out of balance. I thought I had acid reflux or worse, and wanted something to balance ph, and found the Frequensea website. Their product is phenomonal. I don't know if it will cure you completely, but it will certainly make you a lot healthier! It has also reduced/eliminated the tumors of several customers! This is not snake oil!
It is made from Marine Phytoplankton, and it has cleansed my cells so well that everything in my life is better, including my calm outlook. There are too many positive effects to name. I am not trying to sound like a commercial, and I personally am not selling it. I just believe in passing on health advice when I can. Good luck!
Stick with DU. Don't let a few morans ruin your day!

[Guaranteed]

25. You seriously have people doing this to you?

DO NOT leave. You hear me?

That is ALL bullshit.

Stay, or they win. DU people will fix this.

[SheepyMcSheepster]

26. Just remember ....

A message board tends to be a great place for loudmouths to feel big. Not everyone posts in every thread they read, so what I am trying to say is there are hopefully a lot of rational people out there reading all these posts, so just disregard those who want to attack you individually.

I use this place as a resource, I wouldn't invest too much time into worrying about or dealing with the way you believe others percieve you.

[dogday]

27. I was always told when people criticize you

or what you do, it is really themselves they have a problem with... :hi: :hug:

[MissWaverly]

28. always wear your tin hat around here

You are a true patriot, please stick around, don't let the trolls nibble on your posts, we
are so concerned about always using perfect grammar and spelling meanwhile the beatings and
torturing goes on and on, what's politically correct about that? As far as living on SSDI,
I say anyone who is chronically ill and disabled that can navigate their way through today's
health care system has more brains and guts than most ceos. Don't let the trolls get to you,
remember this is an election year and they are out to get the du'ers aka doers who are working
to get the dems back in power.

[Warpy]

29. I have athritis and am going blind, so there

I'll match you typo for typo and I'll bet I'll win.

I had to take a 5 month break last year. I found I was repeating myself too often and that I was getting flamed too often for saying things that were not yet in the mainstream here. Most of them are now in the mainstream and 5 months of reflection gave me a whole lot more to say.

Sometimes we all need a vacation. I'll be having eye surgery next week, so I'll be taking an involuntary break, myself.

As for asshats dumping on you for praying for peace of mind, ignore them. You described them well, and maybe if we all ignore them, they'll grow up, both the asshats criticizing your method for getting centered and the asshats who have a kneejerk antipathy toward atheists.

Good luck and may we get rid of the Calvinists and get somebody in there who will fund stem cell research, which is really your best hope for a treatment for Parkinson's.

[sandnsea]

30. Ignore is your friend, siriusly

I didn't use it for a long time when I first came here. Now I do regularly. I recently let a bunch of people "out" and have discovered that there's no particular political leaning that annoys me, just particular, uhm, er, personalities. I also discovered about half had been tombstoned. Most of the rest are back on ignore after just a week. Try it before you leave. Just go wild with it!

If I'm not on ignore and you can read my post, that is. :)

[Guaranteed]

31. I think people that are doing this need to get called the fuck out

and BEATEN.

[LittleClarkie]

78. alert is also your friend

That's what I always say.

[Cleita]

36. Yes, I just started to use ignore. Not only do I not have to read

the noise, but I have found out the ignores cluster on certain threads that I can hide as well.

[jsamuel]

32. "I wish I knew how to quit DU"

Take a break if you need to. :hug:
Just remember as you do, that most are not those in 1-5. Come back when you feel better.

[WillyT]

33. Just Because They're Democrats, Doesn't Mean They're Liberals....

Unfortunately.

But Dan, don't let the Morans of the Middle get to you anymore than the Morans of the Right.

Really... for some of these people, internet derision is all they have in life.

:shrug:

Take a break if ya need one, but don't you stray too far. We need ya man!

:grouphug:

[Disturbed]

38. Take a break and come back, hopefully refreshed.

Best to you.

[Cleita]

34. I'm sorry that you are having problems.

Don't let a few jackasses get to you. Put them on ignore. I found it to be very helpful in blocking the jackasses out of my posts.

[Grateful for Hope]

35. I hope you decide to stay

and, I am so sorry that you have experienced what you have here.

[otohara]

37. Taking A Break Once In A While is A GOOD THING

As a disabled person myself, I have to step back and let my brian and body rest from the stress of this nightmare we are currently living through. When you have a disability the immune system doesn't work like those with-out a disability. My stress goes straight to my body and the pain gets worse, digestion gets all twisted then theres my mental health .

Enjoy your sabatical from DU:donut: :grouphug:

[Alleycat]

39. No I don't think you should leave

I think you have plenty to offer to this forum. Sometimes I don't agree with everyone here either and have been slapped as well but please understand that everyone is not going to agree with you at all times. You have plenty to offer and every opinion expressed on DU is valuable.

PS I always screw up on typing and spelling too and I don't even have Parkinson's. I understand your condition quite a bit being that my uncle and ex-father-in-law have it in different stages.

[Horse with no Name]

40. Fuck em and feed em fishheads

This is getting ridiculous.
Take care of YOU.
Do what you have to do but don't let the disruptors here bring you down.
They are nothing but shit.:hug:

[0007]

41. Hang in there and don't leave DU just because of a few morans.

A lot of wanna be writers here. And we become the scorn of their failures.

[DearAbby]

42. Dang, that is too bad...

don't let those that annoy you be the reason for leaving DU...use that icon "man with a red X on it" and ignore them. Stay.

[KT2000]

43. 88,646 registered users

Of these, how many individuals have offended you?
More than 1%? 10%?
Aren't most people who post pretty reasonable about things?
Someone is always going to have screwy ideas about things - that usually turn out to be based on ignorance. Its frustrating for sure but some people just need to be educated. If they still don't get it - screw 'em!

I enjoy your posts! Stay.

[Sugar Smack]

44. C'mon, DanCa.

Don't be doing this. Hang out in the Lounge, or go to the Cooking and Baking forum. Or the Fiction novels forum. The photography forum is great! :D Stay. Or take a break. We love you.

[porphyrian]

45. If you leave, do it for yourself, not a handful of people.

People are assholes some times. Some people would be quick to verify I can be. If you're leaving to give yourself a break, I don't blame you. Just come back when you're not spread so thin.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

46. Please stay, DanCa.

:hug:

[DanCa]

47. Thanks for the support everyone

I don't like grand standing like this but the Rush welfare (I hate the term) really really hurt. If you pile it on with everything else it was literally the straw that broke the camels back.
I will be back I promise I just need a few weeks to chill out and regain my balance.
I love my DU family your the best bunch of people bar none. It's that last ten to fiften percent of the DU population that pulls me down. I love you guys I promise to be back soon.
:hug:

[ShortnFiery]

49. Best Wishes and do come back soon ...

Please do return? Many of us are silent but enjoy your posts.

Rest and recoup but please DO come back soon? :grouphug:

[LittleClarkie]

119. I've done that

I didn't announce it, but I just didn't feel like coming on for a while.

Every once in a while, life kicks me in the ass.

Come back when you feel like it. We'll still be here.

[johnnie]

48. Don't leave

I know there are some here who seem to just want too start shit, but there are too many great people here at DU to leave. I have known a few people in my life that like to cause crap and my automatic reaction is "fuck them".

50. Please don't go

[robcon]

51. Go. Or don't go.

But don't inflict your self-pity on us. If someone attacks you for your grammar or spelling, just ignore them or respond. Your choice.

This is another "threatening to leave DU" thread that the drama kings and drama queens on DU are involved in too many times. There's another about Will Pitt (recently closed.)

Enough already. Decide what to do, then do it.

My attitude: don't involve the DU board in your decision to stay or leave.

[DrDebug]

52. The "threatening to leave" means that he stays

It's normal psychology. We all need to vent sometimes and be told there is nothing wrong with our frustrations.

The Will Pitt story is a different matter. He'll probably take a holiday, however in this case there is a need to vent and have people say that they care. It may look like drama but a board needs drama like this and it clears the air and is even positive.

[WillyT]

58. It Is Always Fascinating The Number Of People Here Who...

engage in destructive criticism, yet do it from a place of anonymity and disabled profiles, don't you agree?

One wonders what it is that they are afraid of?

Being found out, perhaps???

:shrug:

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

96. The guy was underscoring the lack of sensitivity often present

with people on this forum toward those who have a harder time due to disabilities. Thanks for proving his point.

[KitchenWitch]

112. I am so glad you read his post

A little introspection goes a long way. Might want to be looking in the mirror, to see if you may be part of the insensitivity around here.

[myrna minx]

135. Well, you chose to click on this thread.

:shrug:

[SmokingJacket]

53. Whenever this place becomes more negative than positive

for me, I take a little break.

The pattern for me is, it sucks me deeper and deeper in, I care more and more, and then something turns and suddenly it's not the place I thought it was... so I take off, get a life, slowly get lured back in. It's always great for a while (like any addiction!) and then you hit bottom ...!

DU is very educational and affirming, but if it's not working for you, it can also just be a lot of wasted time.

[Neil Lisst]

54. Sorry to hear it. There's a reason we're losing market to Kos.

It's the reason we dare not speak, lest they who watch find offense.

Progressive values my ass! There's a gang of rude posters who get away with murder here, protected, like one of Vic Mackey's gangs.

[DoTheRightThing]

68. EXACTLY

[Neil Lisst]

148. and guess what?

Nothing has changed in the last 24 hours. They're running loose again, protected by their buddies.

6 months ago, DU was running about 3000th on the web in traffic. It has fallen to around 3700th. In that time, Kos has gone from about 2300th to around 1700th or so.

Why? We're overrun by rude, far left bigots who unfortunately get special treatment. Most of them will likely stay home or vote some third party on election day, because they hate most Dems anyway.

[Catrina]

116. I've noticed that also. And they are driving good people away ~ attempting

to silence people.

Danca, we've all been subjected to this, don't leave because of them ~ mostly they're disturbed, cowardly individuals, and I wonder about why they are here.

I read your posts and love them ~ I hope you'll stay, or if you need a rest that it won't be for long. We need good people like you ~ :grouphug:

[Neil Lisst]

129. they run like a pack of hyenas

Every post is a personal insult, which they keep up relentlessly, then when you respond, they run play "victim," and seek intervention, which, astoundingly, they get.

I've seen you make sane, logical posts, only be to treated like some 3rd world dictator.

[SammyWinstonJack]

55. #4 and #5, screw 'em! And please don't leave!

:hug:

[hexola]

56. Stay out of GD...

You have to think more in the topic forums...not as many drive-bys or thrillseekers...

[in_cog_ni_to]

57. You better NOT leave!

You know I love you to death! IGNORE the asshats. They know not what they say. I know you have Parkinson's and can't type well....let the rest of the people deal with it. They should be ashamed for making fun of someone like you. You can't help it...damnit!:grr:


You stay...I'll defend you to the death.:hug: Chin up buddy! You have a BUNCH of friends here who know you and your circumstance and we love you. To hell with the rest.

[Zhade]

59. Please don't leave. You're one of the best posters here.

I can feel your sincerity, whatever the issue.

I'm an atheist, and those who ridicule you for praying are assholes. Hey, I don't believe in it, but who the hell are they to take away your comfort?

Stay! Show them you're stronger than them.

[Beelzebud]

61. DanCa, Don't leave, bro. Damn the ass hats!

We liberals have our asshats and the right has thier ass hats.


don't let the asshats do to us what they did the republicans. :D

[Name removed]

62. Deleted sub-thread

Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[AnneD]

63. Sey

ther are lots of us that don't bust peoples chops too badly bout spellin. And some of us go to church regularly (and even tithe). Idealogues weither they are liberal OR conservative are a threat to anyone humour.
We will pray for a cure. Doesn't matter if it comes through science of prayer. And if a cure doesn't come, we will pray for grace, mercy, and acceptance.
Do what you need to do, just don't paint us all with the same brush.

[DoTheRightThing]

64. I'm sorry.

You certainly have a right to feel exactly as you do. The able-bodied do not, cannot, understand what those of us who are not, go through. I wish the people who posted to you had thought a moment before they posted what they did. To us shut-ins, the friends we make from home are all we have.

Please, feel better. I really, REALLY understand (though what I've said will probably get me thrown off here--that's what I'LL get from them.) If only they knew all we really have, in the end, is each other...

[WillyT]

70. Welcome To DU, DoTheRightThing !!!

:toast::bounce::hi::bounce::toast:

Glad ta have you aboard!

:yourock:

And don't worry about the numbskulls. The loud and rude usually don't contridute a thing aroud here. Unless of course they're being loud and rude to the right-wing.

:evilgrin:

[KitchenWitch]

114. Welcome to DU

I also fight with my own disability issues. It is very difficult, and most able bodied folks have very little understanding for the extreme energy I expend in my daily life.

[laheina]

130. Welcome to DU DoTheRightThing !!

You already sound like you are going to be a valuable and compassionate member of our community.

:hi:

[bleedingheart]

66. hey don't leave and let the asshats win....

there are a few asshats I can't stand but I have a very thick political skin....

[TheFarseer]

71. I became disinterested in DU a while back

I can't remember the issue at the moment, but it was really turning me off. I took a break but gas prices and immigration have re-kindled my interest and now I'm spending way too much time here once again. Sometimes a break can do you some good, especially when you can always come back whenever you want.

I'm sorry that some people can be cruel. Some people just don't realize that not everyone is as perfect as they are. :(

[WillyT]

73. LOL !!! - That's One Of The Karma Gods Little Tricks On People...

As soon as you think you're perfect, then by thinking that, you are not.

The Karma Gods prefer humility, so I'm told.

:hi:

PS - Glad you're back!

[Booster]

74. Come on, Danca, you're tougher than that. We ALL make typos

on a daily basis and that's why I've never joined in when someone was making fun of the people at freeperville. However, I do recommend taking a break every once in awhile from politics altogether. It's been testy on DU lately, but I still come back over and over again. I say stay with us cause we need you and we love ya.

[brook]

75. Take a break...

go wander in blog world for an hour...I've found some with no politics....wonderful photography...good stories...I wander from link to link and it's a mini-journey through a less discouraging and more amusing world.

Whatever you do - forget the asshats. They're the other side of what's so great about the net. They'll always be there - but we don't have to feed them. (think 'zoo' :) )

Like so many before me have said: "The ignore button is your friend". Whatever you do, I wish you well.

[etherealtruth]

76. Hey Danca

I enjoy your posts ... they are very thoughtful, I'd wager you enjoy writing them.

Take a break ... a few days , a few weeks ... Don't let a few lunatics, meanies or people with very specific agendas (whose responses have little or nothing to do with you) keep you from something you enjoy.

[LittleClarkie]

77. It's the internets before it's anything else, liberal or no

Bound to have a few assclowns in the mix. I wouldn't take it too seriously.

[RevCheesehead]

79. Noooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!

Danny!! Just hang out in the Lounge, where we :loveya: you!!!!

(((((((:hug:)))))))

[GreenPartyVoter]

80. Aw, don't leave! *hugs* Just do what I do and take breaks. :^)

[kineneb]

82. take a breather, but don't leave

and I will help you on your items
1. Yes, the pres. is an asshat. But you, by yourself, can't change that anymore than I can. Hang in there.

2. Those so-called christian are not. Do not listen to them. Remember that in America, one can shop for the the church that fits, just like shopping for shoes. Maybe you should try a different church.:)

3. If praying for scientific discoveries works for you, keep praying'. It is your business, not that of the critics.

4. Ignore the grammar cops, like I ignored my English teachers. Big hairy deal. All the writing here is vastly better than that at FR (from what I have seen, they are all barely literate).

5. SSDI- We live on Hubby's SSDI, and I know exactly how you feel. Don't get enough to live on, but can't earn anything or you loose benefits. That is NOT the lap of luxury. Again, tune the twits out.

There are always critics. Just ignore them. I do. :hug:

[Gormy Cuss]

83. Oh just leave DanCa

you aren't perfect enough to post here.
:sarcasm:


(of course if you do leave, I'll hunt you down and MAKE you come back here dear DanCa.)

[Berserker]

84. DanCa

Whats the problem stick around. Fuckum where they breath. I have been called a troll a lurker, a white supremacist, and many other things. But I still stay here because hell I love DU.

[dysfunctional press]

85. apparently you aren't a liberal either-

at least not according to your definition...

it's not very tolerant to refer to other posters as "asshats", now is it..?

like everywhere else in life, you have to take the good with the bad- learn to ignore the bad, and don't let it get to you.

no place is perfect.

[WillyT]

87. Hmmm... I'm A Liberal, And There Are A Number Of Asshats Here !!!

Maybe you haven't run into one yet, maybe...

:shrug:

[dysfunctional press]

89. i was using the definition given by the original poster-

and pointing out that his attitude doesn't seem all that tolerant either.

[WillyT]

90. Could Be He's Upset, No ???

Seems he has a right to be too!

:shrug:

[dysfunctional press]

139. that's no excuse for name-calling...

especially if you're trying to come across as an open-minded liberal.

[WillyT]

145. Are YOU Trying To Come Across As An Open Minded Liberal ???

:shrug::wtf::shrug:

[dysfunctional press]

150. i didn't say i was-

but had i claimed to be, i wouldn't be referring to other people with differing opinions in a deragatory fashion in the very same post.

that's the kind of thing that hypocrites do.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

95. Why should he tolerate asshats that compare a disabllity to

"living on the dole?"

[KitchenWitch]

109. ...

:yourock:

[dysfunctional press]

140. if you recieve disability payments- you ARE "living on the dole".

i should know- i'm on permanent total disability as well.

[KitchenWitch]

144. No, he worked to pay into that system

that is supposed to act as a safety net for all of us. Anyone who has ever worked a W-2 job has paid into that system. He is technically not on the dole.

Contrast that with those that have collected welfare without ever working. THAT is being on the dole.

[dysfunctional press]

149. so did i. but it's still being on the dole...

when you are dependent upon that monthly check from the government.
we pay into the system, and then uncle sam doles it out.

being on unemployment is also often referred to as being 'on the dole' as well- but that program has also been paid into by virtue of a person being employed, and is technically
called "unemployment insurance", just as ssdi is "disability insurance".


and btw- just to bitch on a side note...my monthly check is over 10% less than it should be, because a company that i worked for for a 2 1/2 year period over 20 years ago never paid into Social security what they took out of my check. the company is long gone and bankrupt, and the SS tells me that i am just SOL, with no recourse for recovering the funds...but am i bitter...?

fuckin'-a right i am.
:grr:

[KitchenWitch]

153. I still disagree, but it is a semantics argument.

That sucks about that former job of yours. I hate unethical businesses

I am in the process of applying for disability myself. Probably will get turned down the first time,

[KitchenWitch]

107. Thank you!

I can be a Liberal Asshat at times.

[WillyT]

111. LOL !!! - Me Too !!!

But, Shhhhhh...

Don't tell anybody.

:hide:

[KitchenWitch]

113. Dude, your secret is safe with me!

:hi:

[KitchenWitch]

106. There are days that one could accuse me of being a Liberal Asshat!

:eyes:

We all have our days.

[blue neen]

86. Dearest Dan,

You are a kind, compassionate, and interesting human being. I always look forward to your posts, for they are given with grace and dignity.

People like to put down others because they have trouble dealing with their own inferiority complexes. It's a pity that they have to make themselves feel superior by ridiculing others. What small, small people they are.

You're a strong person. You deal daily with physical challenges, medications, and limits on your income, yet you manage to handle your problems with courage. Unfortunately, there will always be asshats...it's just human nature. Ignore them, Dan. Anyone who would laugh at your prayer for a cure for Parkinson's Disease is so TOTALLY not worth your time or your thoughts.

Grammar cops are not important. They've just managed to find something to pick on someone else about...sort of like the playground bully. They're hiding behind a keyboard and picking at you while they have many shortcomings of their own. They're not perfect. No one is.

If you need to take a break. then enjoy your time away. In the meantime, feel free to PM me any time you'd like to talk.

blue neen

[Ksec]

88. Shake it off and get out there and fight

Giving up is for wussies. I know youre not a wussy.

[libnnc]

91. Don't you dare go, Dan

You're too important here. Let the bastards go fuck themselves. You're better than they are and you belong here. We need you. We really do.

:grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug:

[Libby2]

92. Ignore the assholes!

I for one, enjoy reading your posts very much!!

[mmonk]

93. No, maybe you shouldn't.

We need you. The world at large out there right now isn't on track. Why not be with people that realize it?

[Adelante]

94. Take a rest, DanCa

Then come back :pals:

[Maru Kitteh]

97. It's why I've been checking in less often

I'm not allowed to be pissed off that illegal workers are driving wages down to impossible levels here and my best friends hubby will have to spend a season in Vegas just to get work BUT ~ I'm also shot down when I say our legal immigration from our southern border should be quadrupled (at least) and backed with a greatly increased minimum wage AND felony charges for those who employ illegals.

I also had a big problem with some scumbags who defended the idea that rape is a "valid" form of sex.

To quote a real President, I feel your pain.

[Marie26]

98. Sorry to hear that

You have to do what's right for you - you can always come back in a while & see if anything's changed. What I see is that good people are being driven away, while flamers & screamers are allowed to stick around. I think, pretty soon, this board will consist only of the flamers & they can go nuts. In my opinion, the administration needs to do a better job at tombstoning people for their behavior here - which doesn't seem to happen nearly often enough. I don't get why ClaraT, TexDem, ColoradoBlue, etc., who never seemed abusive, are tombstoned, while the worst disruptors stay. And it makes me think that it is a systematic problem. Anyway, this post will probably be deleted, but I just wanted to say that I enjoy your posts, and hope that all goes well in your life. :hug:

[WildEyedLiberal]

99. Dan, you're worth a million of those fucking assholes

I definitely recommend taking a break. I took a weekend vacation this past weekend, and it was so nice just to get away from the online drama and hullabaloo for a while. Take a break, clear your head, and just do the things you enjoy doing. DU will be poorer for your temporary abscence, but you need to do what you need to do.

I'd take you any day over several of the hateful assholes who pollute this website with their illiberal cruelty.

[helderheid]

100. I sometimes feel the same way ---- DON'T LEAVE - please!

[JI7]

101. FUCK THOSE ASSHATS

there are a lot of people on DU who enjoy your posts and don't want you to leave. stay on for us .

as for the assholes, alert them and/or put them on ignore. it's not worth it letting them ruin things for you.

[MiniMandaRuth]

102. Funny how the people that do stuff like the asshats

never respond to posts that call them out.


Please don't leave! We need people like you!!!! :hug: :hug:

[autorank]

103. Please stay. We'll form a "Tired of Grammar Police" support group.

Ignore the faux DUers who make cracks about church and your choice of praying. But this is something we can work on:

"4: The grammar cops are after me because my hands tremor constantly and sometimes my fingers misspell words. (I would like to see them type when they can't feel the keyboard thanks to the side effects of medication.)"

You put your posts up anyway you want. This is truly tedious. Besides, the brain has spell check, I know I have one (a brain), or so I''m told (except when I talk about stolen elections to people here who think * really won in 2004;)

Stick around. You're a good writer and make your point in convincing fashion.

:hi:

[6000eliot]

104. As Hunter S. Thompson said,

"Don't take any guff from those swine!" I'm an English teacher, and I don't take it upon myself to correct people's spelling or grammar, so fuck the rest of them.

[LaPera]

123. Cheers!

[KitchenWitch]

105. DanCa, you know I always have your back

Whatever you need to do for your own personal self, I support that. Just know that I, for one, will miss you and your posts.

[TexasLawyer]

108. I been flamed lately too

and it never happened before. I think there are people on a RW payroll who are tag teaming on long-time DU-ers. They are staying just inside the rope so they won't get permanently kicked off the site.

I've been hitting the "Alert" button a lot more, even when they are flaming other people and I am not part of the thread at all.

I understand the frustration. The couple of times that it happened to me, I thought "Geez- why do I bother with DU, anyway?"

But please hang in there.

[genieroze]

115. put them on ignore

[LaPera]

122. But if you put them on "ignore" your missing the whole and true flavor

of DU...

Perhaps they may post something you don't like or disagree with...but other times they might blow you away...Why shut out a whole faction of others ideas? This is not an absolute science. Just pass them up when you chose to(how much effort does it take)... Why censor ideas, how much will you miss if you only hear what you want to...DU is simply a microcosm of life!!!

I personally feel DU should do away with the "ignore" icon I think its for the timid and close-minded. It takes away...However, I am also respectful, to each and his or her own.

[upi402]

118. i had to go to

the jungle and ride an elephant

but i also had to come back, reluctantly

[juajen]

120. Hey, I don't remember ever pounding on you, but

if I did, I really apologize. I have a brother with Parkinson's and I would never hurt anyone intentionally.

My husband corrects my geography and history constantly. I usually try to accept this as a learning moment, but sometimes, I admit, it's damned irritating.

After your post, I believe I will stop correcting spelling, though I usually only correct one in a hundred words.

Please don't let spelling come between you and DU. I promise I will stop. As for disability income, my husband has been disabled and on SS disability for 22 years. I don't know what we would do without it.

Love to you and yours. Please accept my apology if I have ever offended you.

Peace.

[LaPera]

121. I find it much more fun & effective not to thread, just post...

Then I just sit back and wait to ravage...Tolerant, sometimes, if its dictated, but usually it's more advantageous to attack the thoughtless and even more so, the smug ...This is only a fucking forum...NO one has any more validity than yourself...though so many here are so self indulgent they really believe otherwise...State your ideas and facts and fuck 'em...you'll never get a unanimous reaction...And remember, your point is being made regardless...So many come to DU to check out your opinions and thoughts and most aren't 'members' nor have user names...your points are being read...personally, I truly don't give a shit that so many here feel their opinions are more astute, articulate and eloquent, man, do I know otherwise. I find it mostly a collection of pontificators and perhaps, rarely, even some true ideologist that's what really fuels this place, So OK...Stick around...I love it, don't leave now it's just getting fun!

:bounce: :smoke:

[rucky]

124. This place has gotten cruel in its old age. n/t

[LaPera]

127. I'm not so sure...I think the more people, the better, the more one has to

hear & exchange an abundance of ideas & thoughts. Selective is what one has to be here, or get lost & caught up in the gibberish...DU is important site and its not going to get any smaller...at least not until Bush is gone...Age just means it's successful and not as intimate as it once was, so does everything go...But I think we should not close ourselves off and give up, just got to take it with a gain sometimes...These boys at DU do put out a great site...and have since I first came across "The Top Ten Idiots" in Feb. 2001...It really hasn't changed that much...just some of the people have, wade through it, its the basically the same...I believe most are dedicated and its such fun to find the ones who are not, who think its simply a "chat room".
Bottom line: Don't take it all so serious as so many here mistakenly do.

Have fun!

[Ladyhawk]

126. Danny, I've been feeling I need a break from DU and politics, too...

...perhaps a permanent break. Seeing the way things are heading, I've been thinking about sticking my head in the sand until the end comes (in whatever form it may come).

I'm sorry about the troubles you're having and if it's any consolation, I think you're spot-on concerning your observations. About eighteen months ago I came to the conclusion that I don't "fit in" anywhere. I'm an atheist who wants the war in Iraq to stop and thinks most wars are stupid, but I don't follow left-wing dogma closely enough for some. I'm sick of nosy dogmatists of every stripe telling me what I can and cannot do/think. I'm not a pacifist. I eat meat. I play violent video games (and enjoy them). I enjoy "violent" movies. The "elitists" in the local peace group give me the hairy eyeball over these issues and the raised eyebrow when I wear my glow-in-the-dark Darth Maul T-shirt. So I'm a geek. Sue me. I like Star Wars. Bite me.

I don't believe a zygote is a person, but think that perhaps a fetus becomes a person before birth, yet I'm not willing to let non-thinking dogmatists (fundies) decide when that is. I think the matter needs scientific investigation, but it's such a hot-button issue I'm not willing to budge on how the laws stand right now. So, I'm not completely "pro-choice" or "pro-life" and this makes me something of a pariah. I'm all for stem cell research and ending your suffering.

Also, I'm sick of being disabled. School just ended and what little energy I had ended with it. I took a five-hour-long nap today and I still feel drained.

I'm ready to just say, "Fuck it!" It ain't worth the arguments. It ain't worth the family rifts. It ain't worth shit. I want to follow my own thinking and if I don't fit in anywhere, I'm not meant to. If "fitting in" means surrendering to groupthought, no thank you. Maybe I'm just not willing to contribute to the tribalism that's fucking up the world. Dogma? Screw it! Groupthought? Screw it! I just want to be myself.

[MelliMel]

128. Why would anyone mock you for praying

that science come up with a cure for Parkinson's? Or for having to be on SSDI?

I do not know you very well, being new here, but I think it's terrible if you allow some creeps to run you off this forum. Stay.

[NMMNG]

131. Dearest DanCa

I understand if you need to take a break. I myself have contemplated just that thing lately with all that has been going on in my life.

But please don't leave DU. You are a very valuable member of our motley crew (and ignore f*ckwitted comments to the contrary). You provide important insight, perspective and opinions we can't get from anybody else here.

I don't give a flying f*ck about your spelling, and invite anybody who does to come kiss my backside.


:hug:

[alcibiades_mystery]

132. Grammar is not the same as spelling

:evilgrin:

[juajen]

152. No, it isn't

However, I never correct grammar, only spelling. I have rarely seen anyone on DU correct grammar, but quite a few of us are guilty of correcting spelling. It's almost an automatic reflex, like picking lint off a dark jacket. I had wonderful English teachers in grade school, high school and college; however, my brilliant hubbie can't spell shit. I never meant to offend anyone, however. I just thought it was something to learn, as I learn from so many other posters.

[madokie]

133. DanCa don't you go anywhere. Stay here among friends

I spent 15 months in a hells hole so you could be here with us today. As is said the fight has only begun. We have lost too many in the last few days, I'm reading that Mr. Pitt is leaving us as liveoaktx has. I've only known you for such a short time and I understand that to be strong in adversary we must stand as one. Don't give up the ghost for todays/yesterdays satisfaction
Peace be with you where ever you are.

[Lerkfish]

134. since I am with you on all those points, you have at least ONE DUer

in your corner, and a christian at that.

:)

[novalib]

136. Please Stay

Don't let the hate-filled, narrow-minded, bigoted folks drive you away.

Your struggles have always been an inspiration to me.

Please stay.

PLEASE!!

[WestHoustonDem]

137. I've run into a few of those asshats on this board

but they're the minority. Use the alert link. It works.

DU is like a family to me. Every family has it's asshats. Please stick around.

[npincus]

141. Don't you dare.

If you do, you will miss the company of nice folks like me! And yes, I have been nabbed many times by the DU Spelling Police. Worried about Bird Flu? Tight-panty-itus is way more prevalent on these boards.

Keep your spirits up, Friend. And don't you go anywhere!

[glitch]

142. Not everyone who posts on DU is democratic or even progressive.

Although I do think it's healthy to take a break now and then. But come back, we need your voice.

[rateyes]

143. My friend, DanCa....

sounds like you're channeling Sir Elton, again :)

"Maybe you'll get a replacement
There's plenty like me to be found
Mongrels who ain't got a penny
Sniffing for tidbits like you on the ground"

"Goodbye Yellow Brick Road, where the dogs of society howl,
you can't plant me in your penthouse, I'm going back to my plow,
back to the howling old owl in the woods, hunting the horny-backed toad,
Oh, I've finally decided my future lies beyond the yellow-brick-road."

I hear where you are coming from, DanCa. I think a lot of this stuff is coming from the pent up anger people are feeling because of what society is becoming, and this forum gives them space to "vent." The problem is, many express that anger against the wrong people at the wrong times.

We need your voice, and if you do take a break, don't make it a long one. I've done the same thing, but I keep coming back now and then. You are a good person. Sending a prayer your way.

Rat.

[LibDemAlways]

146. Don't Go, Dan!

I have received some snotty responses lately, too. One poster was bitching about parents who don't teach their kids. When I pointed out that most parents do the best they can, I got an acerbic, "Well, I wasn't talking about them now, was I?"

One poster the other night was going on and on about how we all have to love each other and look beyond symbols like the Confederate flag. I pointed out that George Allen had a Confederate flag pin in a yearbook photo and he's a hate-filled SOB. I was then attacked for pointing that out.

You can't win around here sometimes, but you just have to learn to put some people on ignore and never give up. I, for one, enjoy your posts and feel you make a very valuable contribution to DU.

[progressivebydesign]

147. I've left, a time or two, from DU in the past 5 years.

Sometimes I tire of getting beat up for not believing what 80k other people believe on DU. I have finally learned to just state my opinions and let it go. People have hurt my feelings a few times with attacks over my sometimes moderate views, but I ALWAYS get some positive folks either posting or emailing me their support. THAT is what makes DU all worth it. It's not the asshats that attack, it's the friends who turn up to support you. SOmeone was even nice enuff to give me a "heart" during the fundraiser here.

I say hang in here... it's worth it. Even for the asshats. Cuz the nice ones are way too nice to leave! :grouphug:

[susanna]

151. I hope you stay.

I have always followed your posts and found them enlightening. I believe you have had some trouble with your family about your political beliefs, and I am sorry you feel that DU is also pushing you out. :-(

Just know that there are people left in the world who understand.

Take care, DanCa. I hope you stay at DU.

on edit: religious reference deleted

[stepnw1f]

154. Hey Dan... Don't Let Them Win

They are here trying to push people out. Stick around and know most of us are on your side.