Abramoff: ten months, TWO HUNDRED WH visits! that's EVERY DAY

[Gabi Hayes]

of a five day work week for ten months

every business day, as Olbermann and the reporter breaking the story say

EVERY DAY!

reporter: in the new days of accelerated WH access, this is "White House excess"

two hundred visits...how are they going to spin that?

every single work day

EDIT: here's a story on this

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/politics/14478714.htm

WASHINGTON - A federal judge has ordered the Secret Service to release all records of disgraced GOP lobbyist Jack Abramoff's visits to the White House - which could prove an embarrassment for President Bush.

The logs are expected to show who Abramoff met with at the White House as well as when and how long he was there.

Bush has said he didn't know Abramoff, who pleaded guilty in a massive influence-peddling scandal. But photos show the two posing for pictures at the White House. Abramoff also raised more than $100,000 for Bush's 2004 reelection campaign.

.............

no mention of the 200 visits that I can find online so far

[newscott]

1. I wonder where his desk was?

[Gabi Hayes]

3. next to Gannon? or maybe

at the Watergate Annex, with Goss and Duke

[glitch]

19. I seem to recall Gannon visits numbered over 200 as well. But maybe that

was over a longer time period.

[Gabi Hayes]

20. si! but how funny would it be if there was a Gannon/Abramoff/etal

connection

lord knows the possibilities

everybody is well aware that their "sickness" knows no bounds

[SmokingJacket]

32. They certainly must have bumped into each other!

The WH is large... but not THAT big!

[me b zola]

59. I believe that the Gannon visits were more sinister than a sexual trist

I believe that many of his visits were work (catapulting the propaganda) related. IIRC, some of his more coherent blog posts were made at times that corresponds to times that he was logged in as being on the WH premises long after any other members of the press were there. IMO those posts were written by rove on jimmy-jeff's laptop.

Of course, this is not to say that ALL of his visits were propaganda related. :smoke:

[tanyev]

73. Yeah, even hard-working propaganda catapulters

gotta have a little fun.

[Imagevision]

90. Gannon sexual trist? - yep, that's Gannon's schtick...

sinister? nah, boy-toy!

[moondust]

64. In the NRA office?

Weren't they going to be working out of the WH as well?

[Sanity Claws]

2. But, but * said he doesn't know the guy!

How could this be? Could the logs be lying?
Or,
Could someone else be lying? Anyone see pants on fire anywhere?

[Gabi Hayes]

4. maybe he was helping Mehlman with the phone calls to New Hampshire

[rpannier]

62. Maybe he really doesn't

If that were the case it brings up one possibility and question with limitless possibilities:

1) He visited with scrubbie 200 times and in scrubs toke infested brain he is unable to remember anything. Which would of course, call into question whether he is mentally stable to continue being the president.

or

2) He was visiting someone else. Which begs the question "Who was he visiting and why?" Cheney? Rove? Cheney and Rove? Rice, Cheney and Rove? The possibilities are limitless.

[NewJeffCT]

69. According to Black Jack Abramoff...

Bush has a fantastic political memory.

[verse18]

5. Hee Hee Hee!!!!!

"every single work day":rofl:

[ewoden]

6. He simply had to make a lot of visits. . .

You see, ever since the 1000 dollar bill was eliminated from the currency (Drug trafficing and Central American government engineering), carrying around lots of cash for, er, political purposes involves very heavy stacks of hundreds! You simply cannot carry enough cash to buy off a Presidency in a simple briefcase anymore. Damn that war on drugs anyway!!

[Seattleman]

7. Ha Ha Ha Ha ha.

Unfortunately, the joke is going to be on the American people because the media will ignore this information as much as possible.

[Gabi Hayes]

11. you got it...just as they ignore the new Plame twist, re: Iran nukes,

the Goss involvement in hookers when he was a congressman...make that the ENTIRE congressional hooker thing, and something else that just came out, which I've already forgotten myself

they ignore EVERYTHING

[oldtime dfl_er]

85. Colbert..

they ignore Colbert...

[Olney Blue]

35. Hi Seattleman, welcome to DU!

:hi:

[Seattleman]

40. Thanks

Thanks, I am a long time web surfer, but new to DU. I appreciate your welcome.

[Ugnmoose]

43. Welcome S Man

Is it true that people from Seattle don't tan - they rust?
Only kidding - I love your beautiful city.

:hi:

[cmd]

71. Same reaction here

I can't stop laughing. Too bad most people will miss it.

[ladjf]

8. That means that he worked there full time.

[w13rd0]

9. OMG...

...haha, I MUST know what Bush's pet name for Abramoff was.

"Master"

"Daddy Warbucks"

"He Who Bringeth the Hookers"

[BR_Parkway]

70. Wait, I thought it was a different GOP scandal who supplied the hookers

damn, I'm getting so confused keeping my criminals straight. The novel about this criminal (mis)Administration is going to be longer than Moby Dick combined with War and Peace. Heck, it's going to have to be split into volumes.

The Corrupt GOP White House, Vol 1, 2000

The Corrupt GOP White House, Vol 2, 2001

The Corrupt GOP White House, Vol 3, 2002

The Corrupt GOP White House, Vol 4, 2003

The Corrupt GOP White House, Vol 5, 2004

The Corrupt GOP White House, Vol 6, 2005

The Corrupt GOP White House, Vol 7, 2006

The Corrupt GOP White House, Vol 8, Special Impeachment Edition (updated with conviction and sentencing reports)

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

10. But the Chimperor doesn't know Abramoff! Remember this?

On January 26, here's what he said:

"President Bush fended off questions Thursday about White House links to convicted lobbyist Jack Abramoff and refused to release photos that show the two men together. "I don't know him," Bush said.

"I had my picture taken with him, evidently," Bush said at a White House news conference. "I've had my picture taken with a lot of people. Having my picture taken with someone doesn't mean that I'm a friend with them or know them very well."

"It's part of the job of the president to shake hands ... with people and smile," he said."

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-01-26-bush_x.htm

Nope, he doesn't know the guy who visited every damn day for ten months...

[Lasher]

77. He doesn't know Kenny Boy either (EOM)

[dogday]

12. That is a whole boat-load of visits

You can't help but tie the two together... Come on now....:crazy:

[Rex]

13. Maybe Bush & Cheney ain't sweating Libby and Rove

Maybe the real fear is what Abramoff is blabbing about THEM and not just DeLay! One can only hope!

[WillyT]

14. I Guess Scalia Knew What He Was Talkin About With Them Orgy Thingys !!!

Jack and Jeff and Scotty and Ken and...

:shrug:

Not a pretty picture, mind you.

:puke:

[Ms. Clio]

15. They won't feel any need to spin it

The American people don't give a shit. They'd rather hate on "illegals."

[peacebird]

16. link please?

[Gabi Hayes]

23. check edited header OP

they were talking about another Judicial Watch lawsuit that involved suing for the WH logs. that's how they know now how many times JA visited

[DoYouEverWonder]

17. Don't you know

in Bush's world everyday is Hanukkah?

[Pithy Cherub]

18. That list will be interesting on SO many levels.

Does the arrested staffer Safavian have a chance of becoming the bushbot scapegoat? Perhaps the recently indicted and parked Scooter? Perhaps Lee Atwater's bad love copy, the retched Karl Rove? Somebody signed for him and there seems to be a former executive assistant of Karl's that went Commerce, iirc. Before Karl she worked with, guess who - Abramoff. Abramoff may have exaggerated the number, but the content of those meetings is the most important. What got traded and who cut the deals right from 1600. Abramoff probably has a house full of White House memorabilia too.

Or maybe Abramoff and Gannon just carpooled...This pig gets uglier and uglier for the lipstick suppliers of 1600.

[Catrina]

34. Susan Ralston was a former Abramoff acquaintance. He 'gave' her to Rove

when they took over the WH. She became Rove's assistant. She has been before the Plame GJ a few times, probably in relationg to what she knew about Rove.

Susan Ralston supposedly took all of Rove's calls, and would have to check with Norquist before deciding who should and should not have access. I remember reading that somewhere.

In some of the Abramoff e-mails, he would contact Ralph Reed if he wanted something from Rove (apparently Reed had a good relationship with Rove).

As I recall, Norquist was a mentor to Ralph Reed, Abramoff and I think, Adam Kidan (who entered a guilty plea also re the Suncruz corruption case). They were all in college together, 'young Republicans'.

When the emails were released, I remember wondering if Bush had a clue what was going on in the WH, or did he let Karl handle all this, and get a report later.

You're right about how ugly all this is ~ it's hard to believe that such a bunch of lunatics had so much power for so long over the lives of so many people. It makes you wonder who is watching out for this country?

[Pithy Cherub]

41. The fatal Abramoff Disease seems to be on the Rove side of the

White House. That puts an interesting squeeze play in motion about which scandal decks and frog marches Rove first, Abramoff/Delay/Reed/Norquist/Kidan versus Mr. Wilson's wife. This is a Den of Iniquity that really needs a great narrative for the American public to catch on how corrupt and evil this administration has been. It would be actually great TV if it was done in a way that people could watch it or read about it that made it compelling to a general audience.

These guys have put Ceasar to shame with putting their hubris ahead of the common good for the country.

[Catrina]

55. Yes, I find it fascinating since I started following it. There are so many

twists and turns, so many crimes, from the Marianas Islands to China to Africa, Israel, Russia not to mention right here, regarding Abramoff, Tom Delay, the Christian Right, gambling, Mohammad Atta, Bob Ney, even Duke Cunningham may have been involved with Abramoff.

He's like the energizer bunny, he's involved everywhere, the K St. Progject alone would make incredible TV.

Then there are the other scandals, Lies about war, Voting Machine corruption, Enron, Spies in the Pentagon (sometimes I think that is the one that could get all of them for treason, Cheney, Condy, Wolfowitz and the rest of the neocons). The Plame affair, the Forged Niger Documents ~ it's endless.

If the media had started following all this from the beginning, any one of the scandals, (and now we have the prostitute/defense contractor/Cunningham scandal developing) they would have had huge ratings. That's why it's so puzzling that they did not. And of course, Jeff Gannon and why a male prostitute was in the WH.

They are stories of greed, ambition, war profiteering, treason, corruption, sex, spies! It would have been great TV, better than all the reality shows. Now it would take so long for the media to catch up. I can't keep up with the scandals, they'd have to do it in stages, and show how they all come back to the same people. It would take years!

But you're right, tragic though it all is, it would be great for television. People would glued to their tvs, imo.

[Olney Blue]

44. Indeed.

[Pithy Cherub]

45. Piggly Perfect!

:rofl:

[pnorman]

21. I guess I could Google this,

but can you give a source?

pnorman

[Gabi Hayes]

I edited the header to show a link, but it doesn't discuss how many visits

[iconoclastic cat]

22. So, he was there more often than Bush? nt

[Gabi Hayes]

33. now THAT's the post of the DAY, at least!

love you!

[Last Stand]

80. Someone had to water the plants.

I think the fact that the agency pursuing the information about the Abramoff vists is a CONSERVATIVE group is extra delicious here. It's about time some of these so-called conservatives put their backing on their ideologies instead of some Dimwit who's spending all of their and our money on new yaghts for his Cronies. I'm no fan of the penny-pinching libertarians, but some of their ideology was legit at one time.

[iconoclastic cat]

88. Welcome to DU, Last Stand!

I totally agree with you.

[cali]

24. and on may 10

we should find out who he was seeing during those visits. the secret service has reached an agreement with Judicial watch to turn over the logs.

[Beetwasher]

25. Holy Crap! I Didn't Expect It To Be That Many!

I mean, I knew there would be visits, but, wow!

[alcibiades_mystery]

26. He was at the White House more than Bush hisself!

:rofl:

[Scout1071]

29. EXACTLY how we need to frame it! Spot on! nt

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

36. More than every day.

Camp David, Crawford, holidays known and unknown...

[Kansas Wyatt]

37. Well, Bush broke the record for vacation time

It must have been all that "hard work" defrauding 'We The People' with his criminal buddies. Georgie just couldn't keep up and handed the keys to the White House, over to the criminals.

[Kingofalldems]

27. Perhaps the freepers can explain this

Any takers out there? We know 'your' here. So tell us all what exactly is a soon-to-be convicted felon doing in the WH every day for ten months?

[alcibiades_mystery]

31. That would be

"you're"

Just sayin'...;-)

[Kingofalldems]

52. That's the freeper you're--hence the bracketing

OK?

[SeattleVet]

42. Well , here's one freeptard who's going to be MIGHTY disappointed!

(Replying to a previous post: White House Visitor Logs should be an open book, with some option for censoring visits related to national security.)

----
"I don't have a problem with this, esp. if it was something like a web site with all the names. It would help put things in context. For example, it might look damaging if Abramoff was there a dozen times, but not if there were hundreds who did the same thing. "
----


If it "might look damaging if Abramoff was there a dozen times", how is it going to look to these guys if he was there a COUPLE OF HUNDRED times? Let's see if we can help this guy and come up with a word that would express this...perhaps "devastating"?

Maybe "incriminating"?

How about "impeacable"?

Oh, well. I guess it won't matter to them - they're already screaming that the logs should be released all the way to the beginning of the Mighty Clenis' term. We all knew that there HAD to be a way to blame Clinton.

[malaise]

28. Can't be

Bush didn't know the man :sarcasm::sarcasm:

[MichiganVote]

30. Lincoln bedroom?

[politrix]

38. DAMN! They Cut Him A "Doggie Door"

Hey, that's a good phrase for this kind of access. The sucker had his own doggie door to the whitehouse...

[Gabi Hayes]

39. speaking of which, I wonder how much doggy style was going on

under Pickles' nose

[Tinksrival]

48. Oh, Gabi!

That was good! :rofl:

[alfredo]

56. Pickles' nick name is

Lash Laura.

[bleever]

49. They cut him a "doggie door".

That's great! Did you come up with that?

And, welcome to DU, politrix.

:hi:

[politrix]

61. Thanks, Bleever - Yeah, It's The First Thing That Came To Mind

He basically had access whenever he wanted it.

I DO think that's a good buzzword for it, tho'. Think of the cartoons...

[lovuian]

46. I never met that man in my life!!!

I think we found the blue dress!!!

[burythehatchet]

47. Something doesn't add up

The White Press secretary stated that Abramoff was at the White House for 3...no 2 Hannukah receptions. Where's the disconnect?

:crazy:

[emulatorloo]

50. Another reason they had to get Scottie out of there

Too much tape of Scottie saying stuff like that.

Now Snowball can lie w a clean slate. And I hear they want to stop televising the briefings. . . .

[me b zola]

60. Yep

And now they are talking about no more tv coverage. All holy hell is about to break loose.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

53. I don't think I believe this story. I had heard "200" - but it was

200 "contacts" (eg phone, email, in person) combined.

Not that that is any better.

[Rose Siding]

54. Today, McC said he wasn't even sure the SS kept records of WH visits

There is definitely a disconnect

[Raksha]

58. Well, what's the problem?

He WAS there for two Hanukah receptions. And about 198 other times too!

[fooj]

51. What a tangled web they weave...

:popcorn:

[Panda1]

57. Who?

[Historic NY]

63. And * says he didn't know Jack........

next thing you know we will find out he got a payroll check. Probably got a Christmas bonus too.:wtf:

[Hubert Flottz]

65. Was he porkin' the first lady on the sly, OR

did we catch Gawd's Chosen Chimp in yet another of his Gawd sent barrages of Gawd Damned Bullshit?

EDIT...He's a such MORAL WAR pResident, would he ever lie? Would He Ever!

[Chomp]

66. AN INCREDULOUS KICK nt

[madokie]

67. bushie* the liar will only lie about it, mark my word

[NewJeffCT]

68. They won't spin it - they will ignore it

The media will not be allowed to report on it, other than Olbermann & a joke on the Daily Show.

[Pacifist Patriot]

72. Is anyone else utterly agog at the sheer nerve it requires to...

lie one's ass off when documentary evidence abounds to the contrary?

Dear Mr. President, we're not dumb and we're not blind!

[MGKrebs]

84. I am. What were they thinking?

That the info would never get out, i.e. they could cover it up?
That they could claim that nobody knew he was there?
I mean, why lie? Did they not check the records first before saying he was hardly ever there?

[Loge23]

74. Ohhh!! the humanity!!!!!

Colbert's Hindenburg is about to blow!
If this story is true there is no way that the WH can escape this disaster.

[kiteinthewind]

75. Kick!! n/t

:kick:

[ChairmanAgnostic]

76. they spin it by ignoring it.

[Donovan61]

78. I am shocked

shocked, I tell you, to learn there is corruption in the White House. By the way, I'm sure Bush doesn't know Abrahamoff, Ken Lay, Tom DeLay, Scooter Libby and a whole host of GOP congressmen to be named later.

[LiberalEsto]

79. It's obvious Abramoff never visited the White House

He was LIVING there.

[Imagevision]

81. It seems that 200 visits should bring forth more then what was revealed

[Blue_In_AK]

82. "Incomplete"

What is this thing I read in the paper this morning, that the White House has said it will only turn over "incomplete" records? :shrug: How can they keep getting away with this stuff?

[Imagevision]

89. "Incomplete"? - it's what you get with no checks and balances

[ComerPerro]

83. spin it? They won't have to spin it

No one is even really talking about Abramoff anymore.

[Up2Late]

86. And Didn't Kenny-boy Lay have an office and desk in the WH too?

I seem to recall that, so let's not forget him either.

[Harper_is_Bush]

87. Kicked and recommended. Infinitely more significant than Colberts

comedy routine.