Ohio Republicans: African American SoS over White Attorney General......

[ShaneGR]

I'll believe it when I see it. Polls call for a Blackwell win but I'm betting Petro comfortably. The polls called for a Blackwell win (The Black Christian vote) vs Petro (The white Law vote). I'll be shocked if Blackwell wins this, especially after McCain rolled into the state and backed Blackwell.

[iconoclastic cat]

1. Uh, Shane, could you elaborate, maybe give a link, etc.? nt

[ShaneGR]

5. Election results should begin streaming in soon.... nt

[Tiggeroshii]

2. he'll win easily both the primary and the ge

... he'll make sure of it as secretary of state!

[IndyOp]

3. Questions for you:

Who has the central tabulator that "counts" all of the votes on his computer?

Who 'ghost-wrote' the legislation that passed the Ohio House & Senate that now makes recounting elections conducted on electronic voting machines virtually impossible?

MY BET is that the person who did the two things above is going to be the "WINNER" even if only 228 people in the state voted for him.

:grr: :mad: :nuke:

[ShaneGR]

4. Blackwell doesn't certify county results....

And all he counts is the county results. That's it. Only chance he has to interfere is if there is a problem with a particular county.

[IndyOp]

7. No...

His central tabulator can modify results at the precinct level (and simultaneously at the county level). Also he can set the conditions so that people who want to rig software have access to the machines and access to those little memory cards -- a person with a Blackberry can set the memory card to add -2,731 to Pietro's tally. Easy as pie. (Someone added -16,000 votes to Al Gore's total in Volusia County Florida in 2000. It was such a large number that it was detected and corrected, but what about all of the smaller examples of the same that were not?).

Best video showing how easy it is to hack an election using a Central Tabulator: Votergate.org

In Ohio in 2004 presidential race they stuffed ballot boxes (pictures of punch card ballots with only one vote on the card -> Bush) and thus 'shifted ballots' (so that cards that were for Kerry in one precinct were counted in the next precinct over as Bush votes - because the location of the candidates rotates from one precinct to another). Go to FreePress.org and check out the recent article on Warren County for details on this:


We *must* all learn more about ALL of the means of committing fraud. No system, no state is immune.

:kick:

[ShaneGR]

8. No offense, but bullshit...

His central tabulator can modify results at the precinct level?????

Prove that.

EDIT: Results coming in as the counties report them... on Blackwell's site:

http://www.sos.state.oh.us/Results/RaceDetail.aspx?race=GV&party=R

[IndyOp]

9. I gave you a link to a video that shows Bev Harris

showing Howard Dean how to go in though a 'backdoor' in the GEMS (Diebold) Central Tabulator software program and modify a Microsoft Access file at the precinct level and then show how it impacts the race results when looking at the results, once again via the 'front door' of the GEMS software.

Remember when Karl Rove emphasized that he had 'precinct level' results coming in from across the US and how his 'numbers' were different from the results the TV stations were reporting? He had little helpers in a key locations who had access to the precinct-level files.

Will post more soon...

[ShaneGR]

13. A link from Bev Harris IMO doesn't mean much....

It's a lot of yelling about nothing. Reality is my friend.

[IndyOp]

14. Bev Harris is a blowhard. The video shows reality - your friend.

GEMS software on a PC, open the backdoor and edit the electoin. Easy.

"It's a lot of yelling about nothing."

What is a lot of yelling about nothing? People who 'yell' about election fraud?

Really? I'm not yelling. I used to program touch screen machines and I know exactly how the software can be rigged. I also know that people cheat & break the law when it benefits them and they think they can get away with it.

Please educate yourself:

VotersUnite.org
VoteTrustUSA.org
Votergate The Movie
ACLU Voting Rights (at ACLU.tv)

[ShaneGR]

15. I'll take the time to watch it...

Particularly the ACLU one.

[IndyOp]

16. 35% precincts reporting: Blackwell holding at 55%; Pieto 45%

The ACLU video is very good on gerrymandering and other means of preventing people from voting.

Election theft is occuring in a myriad of ways - we have to stop them all.

:kick:

[IndyOp]

10. I am watching Blackwell's site and guess what? He is leading!

Right now with a tiny # of precincts (5%) in, his lead is meaningless -- he is leading...

:shrug:

[saltpoint]

6. I expect Blackwell over Petro tonight & Strickland to win in November. /nt

[skipos]

11. The polls I have seen show Blackwell with a solid win over Petro

and Strickland (D) winning in Nov.

[kevinbgoode]

12. I was going to say. . .surely the people of Ohio have been punished

enough with the Republican machine. . .the corruption is unbelievable...and..well, surely the people are fed up with the fundy legislation being shoved down the throats of the general population, too.....