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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 02:02 PM
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How soon before our Senators come to blows?
I have seen other countries get physical while in session and we just witnessed the Kennedy and Spector exchange.


So my question is how long before we see a physical fight and who would you say would be the first two to go at it?
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 02:03 PM
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1. Not soon enough. n/t
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 02:03 PM
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2. Byrd and Stevens, the old coots? I kid! nt
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 02:10 PM
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6. Ted still considers Senator Byrd
his close friend despite their recent differences, so I doubt that they'd exchange blows. Now, Uncle Ted and Maria Cantwell, that's another story.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 02:07 PM
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3. Chuck Schumer looks like he could take down some chickenhawks.
I'd love to see "Dirty Harry" Reed in the ring with Orrin Hatch.
Bam! Hatch goes down... :popcorn:
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 02:08 PM
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4. one from the history books: the caning of senator charles sumner
http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/minute/The_Caning_of_Senator_Charles_Sumner.htm

1851-1877

May 22, 1856
The Caning of Senator Charles Sumner


Caning of Sumner (NY Public Library)
On May 22, 1856, the "world's greatest deliberative body" became a combat zone. In one of the most dramatic and deeply ominous moments in the Senate's entire history, a member of the House of Representatives entered the Senate chamber and savagely beat a senator into unconsciousness.

The inspiration for this clash came three days earlier when Senator Charles Sumner, a Massachusetts antislavery Republican, addressed the Senate on the explosive issue of whether Kansas should be admitted to the Union as a slave state or a free state. In his "Crime Against Kansas" speech, Sumner identified two Democratic senators as the principal culprits in this crime—Stephen Douglas of Illinois and Andrew Butler of South Carolina. He characterized Douglas to his face as a "noise-some, squat, and nameless animal . . . not a proper model for an American senator." Andrew Butler, who was not present, received more elaborate treatment. Mocking the South Carolina senator's stance as a man of chivalry, the Massachusetts senator charged him with taking "a mistress . . . who, though ugly to others, is always lovely to him; though polluted in the sight of the world, is chaste in his sight—I mean," added Sumner, "the harlot, Slavery."

Representative Preston Brooks was Butler's South Carolina kinsman. If he had believed Sumner to be a gentleman, he might have challenged him to a duel. Instead, he chose a light cane of the type used to discipline unruly dogs. Shortly after the Senate had adjourned for the day, Brooks entered the old chamber, where he found Sumner busily attaching his postal frank to copies of his "Crime Against Kansas" speech.

Moving quickly, Brooks slammed his metal-topped cane onto the unsuspecting Sumner's head. As Brooks struck again and again, Sumner rose and lurched blindly about the chamber, futilely attempting to protect himself. After a very long minute, it ended.

Bleeding profusely, Sumner was carried away. Brooks walked calmly out of the chamber without being detained by the stunned onlookers. Overnight, both men became heroes in their respective regions.

Surviving a House censure resolution, Brooks resigned, was immediately reelected, and soon thereafter died at age thirty-seven. Sumner recovered slowly and returned to the Senate, where he remained for another eighteen years. The nation, suffering from the breakdown of reasoned discourse that this event symbolized, tumbled onward toward the catastrophe of civil war.


Reference Items:


Donald, David. Charles Sumner and the Rights of Man. New York, Knopf, 1970.



Potter, David M. The Impending Crisis: 1848-1861. New York: Harper & Row, 1976.
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liberalitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 02:23 PM
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9. Ah, one of my favorite stories from the sectionalism era...
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oneoftheboys Donating Member (200 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 02:10 PM
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5. It's happened before...
not with these guys, but in the past.

Thankfully, we no longer behave is such a primitive manner.
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PWRinNY Donating Member (456 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 02:12 PM
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7. It'll be two repubs
Repubs are warmongers by nature, genetically prone to getting in fist fights. If we see the senate come to blows, it will be repub against repub.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 02:18 PM
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8. Where is Jesse "The Body" Ventura when you need him?
Edited on Wed Jan-11-06 02:18 PM by Swamp Rat
:D

He should run for the Senate. Hell, he beat Norm Coleman once before!


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raysr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 02:33 PM
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10. That would be great
at least it would show some guts.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 02:36 PM
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11. If it happened in the House, my money's on Murtha. nt
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kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 02:57 PM
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12. Wouldn't that result in impeachment?
(on re-read) Oh, my mistake, I read that headline too fast...

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eve_was_framed Donating Member (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 02:59 PM
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13. Not soon enough
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 03:17 PM
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14. Now if Zell Miller was still in the Senate
I would have to put my money on him....
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