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KyuzoGator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 11:05 AM
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Uncle Fundie Freeper foiled again! Response to Chavez/Sheehan e-mail.
Original Message (not sure what Cindy has to do with it...):
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Subject: Cindy Sheehan & Chavez

Venezuela Dictator Vows To Bring Down U.S. Government

The Venezuela government is the sole owner of the Citgo gasoline company

Venezuela Dictator Hugo Chavez has vowed to bring down the U.S. government. Chavez, president of Venezuela, told a TV audience: "Enough of imperialist aggression; we must tell the world: down with the U.S. empire. We have to bury imperialism this century."

The guest on his television program, beamed across Venezuela, was Cindy Sheehan, the antiwar activist. Chavez recently had as his guest Harry Belafonte, who called President Bush "the greatest terrorist in the world."

Chavez is pushing a socialist revolution and has a close alliance with Cuban
dictator Fidel Castro.

Regardless of your feelings about the war in Iraq, the issue here is that we have a socialist dictator vowing to bring down the government of the U.S. And he is using our money to achieve his goal!

The Venezuela government, run by dictator Chavez, sole owner of Citgo gas co.
Sales of products at Citgo stations send money back to Chavez to help him in his vow to bring down our government.

Take Action

Please decide that you will not be shopping at a Citgo station. Why should U.S. citizens who love freedom be financing a dictator who has vowed to take down our government?
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My response:

First, Chavez is the duly elected president of Venezuela. Agree or disagree with his politics or opinions, the man was chosen by the citizens of his country in a national election that was far less controversial and disputed than the U.S. election of 2000. Or do we only tell people to "get over it" when Republicans win? Refresh me on what the rules are.

Secondly, given my options, I'd rather support a "dictator" in South America who is using oil revenue to improve the lives of his people. The other choice has me buying oil from totalitarian Middle Eastern dictatorships that routinely funnel millions to known terrorist organizations. I'm being asked to choose between a blowhard who vocally objects to U.S. government policies, or billionaire Arab sheiks who want to kill Americans. It's one of the easiest decisions I make.

And besides, Citgo employs about 4,000 U.S. workers and supplies 14,000 independent retailers in the U.S. So a boycott will probably hurt Americans more than it will hurt Chavez, because Citgo will just sell their oil to someone else.

In spite of his rhetoric, it was Chavez who offered fuel, two mobile hospital units, 2000 soldiers, 120 paramedics, 50 tons of food, ten water purification units, 18 large diesel generators and 20 tons of bottled water to help with the recovery after Hurricane Katrina. President Bush rejected that offer, by the way. Good thing, seeing as how FEMA had the situation totally under control. Heck of a job.

In addition, Citgo has pioneered a need-based program that provides poor Americans in the Northeast with discounted or free heating oil in the winter. For someone who hates America so much, Chavez sure has a funny way of showing it.

And xxxxxxxx, out of curiousity...I'm wondering how your feel about Pat Robertson calling for Chavez's assassination. I was hoping you could point me to the Bible passage where Jesus advocated murdering people, because I'm having trouble finding it.
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 11:10 AM
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1. Good response! Let us know how he replies.
:thumbsup:
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 11:10 AM
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2. smackdown!!!!!!!!!!!
:bounce: :toast:

your response is awesome.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 11:12 AM
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3. The title is a fabrication
Chavez vowed to bring down the "U.S empire" and "enough of imperialist aggression". Might he be referring to the Bush "empire"?
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eissa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 11:12 AM
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4. Brilliant!
Would LOVE to see his response to that.
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KyuzoGator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 11:20 AM
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7. He never responds to my smackdowns.
All he knows how to do is forward e-mails from others. He's completely unable to formulate coherent counterarguments on his own.

And my family knows it, too. After my dad saw this, he called me to ask me why I keep doing it, knowing that my uncle will never change. I said that I do it because our media won't, and the only way we can stop these criminals is at the water cooler.
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cdb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 11:13 AM
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5. Sheehan is linked to get attention.
Just like they link "liberals" to anything they don't agree with. You wrote a good response, however.
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 11:15 AM
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6. Excellent response. I posted a "help" thread about just this thing
yesterday. I did not know that Bush blocked Chavez's offers for Katrina though. This one is taking on fast because of its association with gasoline. And it is a great opportunity to get our message out.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2602168&mesg_id=2602168
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 11:25 AM
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8. Great response. nt
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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 11:31 AM
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9. Excellent reply - support Chavez - buy Citgo!
I buy gas only from Citgo, and have for more than a year now. I do it BECAUSE of Chavez, who has offered us cheap gas, and as noted in previous posts, assistance after Katrina that was rejected by the Chimpster. Also Chavez was opposed by the "ruling" class, the ultra-rich of Venezuela who tried to overthrow him with the help of this criminal * admin and the CIA, and supported by the 98% who comprise the very poor majority people of his country. He's a populist leader, and more power to him!

On another note, I think it's due to his influence that Bolivia is nationalizing their oil. He's got balls, and he's not afraid of the big bad US.

I really REALLY hate the way we're the bullies in the world. We need to do something about that!
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 11:34 AM
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10. Whoo hooo!
GREAT ANSWER!!!!!!!
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KyuzoGator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 04:33 PM
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11. Kick nt
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