Official Alito Hearing Thread – Day 3 – Thread 6

[Viva_La_Revolution]

Thread 1
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x106359

Thread 2
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x106806#107023

Thread 3
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x107348#107929

Thread 4
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x108042#108181

Thread 5
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x108345

[CottonBear]

1. Ask a question Joe. He's asking about CAP: did you include CAP on resume

because it would appeal to the job interviwers?

A. "I don't recall anything about CAP or putting it on my resume."

"I don't remember belonging." :wtf:

Q. "I can't understand why you listed CAP.

A. "I wsn't a member of that club..." :wtf:

[LSK]

4. he doesnt remember

[nickinSTL]

13. Did he actually say that?

That he wasn't a member?

That's BLATANTLY false. It's been clearly established IN THESE HEARINGS that he WAS a member. Perjury, anyone?

[LSK]

2. ok here guys!

:hi:

[Viva_La_Revolution]

30. ....

[hang a left]

3. Biden doing a better job today.

[Surya Gayatri]

9. Yes, definitely an improvement n/t

[MADem]

25. Concur--I think he got some talkin-to (constituent calls, staff advice) nt

[CornField]

5. I'm looking for a reason... because you don't impress me

LOL -- I thought Biden was going to stop there. "You don't impress me .... as someone..."

[The Witch]

7. He's still going on too long...

I can't wait for Feinstein to come back. She kicked his ass yesterday.

[CottonBear]

12. Bad news: DiFi told CNN "not much reason to block Alito."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x109109

[The Witch]

33. we can only hope she's hedging her bets

because i got a different impression from her yesterday.

[realFedUp]

6. did you all hear Cass Sunstein on with Al Franken?

From Al Franken's site on Air America radio:
Cass Sunstein, a professor of law at the University of Chicago. He'll talk about the Judge Alito hearings, and his writings for The New Republic.

Mr. Sunstein said that Alito's ruled on a few cases
where he dissented with the majority of his conservative
collegues seated with him because he was MORE CONSERVATIVE than
them.

[LSK]

8. sorry, cant listen to AAR today

This is the real show 1st hand.

[realFedUp]

10. Durbin defending his points

after Republicans talked about him after
he left the room...

[doublethink]

11. "We can't know everything about the Real World"

that comment of Alito's a minute ago is going to stay in my head forever. He said it in the context of not knowing a damn thing of Women needing more leave time after a Pregnancy before going back to work. And yet he makes decisions that effect the 'real lives' of 'real people' in the 'real world' ..... typical Republican thinking. Peace.
on edit: my point being, Republicans live in a 'Ideological World' and don't know a damn thing about the 'Real World' do they. Peace.

[CottonBear]

16. Did you see his wife's smirk during the abortion discussion? n/t

[realFedUp]

26. if their daughter was pregnant and her health was at risk...

I would bet they'd save her life first.

[doublethink]

43. But but .....

that's a possible 'real life' situation ...... and unless Repubs are affected 'personally' ... well they could really give a shit could they? :shrug: Peace.

[zbdent]

More likely, if she came back from Spring Break

with an illegal "Cuban immigrant" snuck inside her, where even a full-body cavity strip search could not detect, at first . . .

[doublethink]

Saw that .....

..... yes I did.

[leftstreet]

17. That was spooky

One of "them" acknowledging he doesn't live in the real world.

[doublethink]

53. They choose to insulate themselves ....

from the real world. Through greed, corruption, lies, deceit, prejudices, IGNORANCE, hate, fear, ideology, on and on and on. But it is a conscious choice. That's where I stop feeling sorry for them. Peace.

[Tsiyu]

24. Well he "knows" a ten-year-old was strip searched

and he is okay with that.

He "knows" what happened with a retarded man and a broomstick and he is okay with that.

This man is just one more sociopath. Does ** have any friends who AREN'T sociopaths?

[doublethink]

60. But but ......

it wasn't 'his' 10 year old daughter, and he didn't know the retarded man personally ..... so I guess it's okay. :sarcasm: Peace.

[realFedUp]

14. Kyl proceeding to read something Kennedy read...

Trying to buck him up on the CAP issue...
boy, the backroom boys are really working
up a sweat today.

[LSK]

15. why cant all the Senators be there on time?

:wtf:

[CottonBear]

23. Spector is waiting for Kennedy. Kyl says Ted read "scurrilous material."

This is ugly. Kyl is reading about CAPs awful positions and Scalito is lying his ass off...says he never remebers joing CAP. :wtf:

[Old Vet]

18. WTF-I dont recall joining,Although used them as a reference

[displacedtexan]

27. Yet he remembers the minutia of dozens of legal cases...

from the same time period.

Duh.

Life must be grand on Planet Oh Right Sure.

[The Witch]

19. Look Forward to 2 Smackdowns Coming Up!

Kennedy/Specter Round 2 and Durbin/Hatch Round 2 will happen when they can get both of these guys in the room at the same time!!

[realFedUp]

20. So he lied about being a member of CAP or lying that he put it on a resume

[CottonBear]

28. Said he doesn't remember joining, putting CAP on resume or any positions

held by CAP.

:wtf:

OMG! another "I'm not familiar with statistics."

[MADem]

35. What's in those RUSHER papers??? Time for the Judiciary Comm to go to the

LIBRARY!!!!!

[CottonBear]

36. The papers are sealed until the CAP founder's death UNLESS

the Senate can subpena them...

[MADem]

40. Those papers are held in the LIBRARY OF CONGRESS

Seems to me that CONGRESS should be able to access them, since they are in CONGRESS's library.

The public is one thing, the gubmint is another. They need to get those damn papers. I posted the general contents elsewhere, and let me tell ya, ya gotta wonder if this clown didn't have a BIGGER role in CAP than he is acknowledging.

I think this whole CAP shit might be his achille's heel.....

Any former or current government librarians out there who knows the procedure for access to shielded documents????

[CottonBear]

55. I can call around: I have librarian friends in a major univ. library. n/t

[MADem]

69. Cool! Always helps to get expert guidance!! n/t

[dogday]

31. People do it all the time

it is called padding your resume. You always hope the shit does not come back to haunt you.

[CottonBear]

37. I suppose I'm too honest. Must be a Democratic value. n/t

[Viva_La_Revolution]

21. Kohl (D) up next...

then Dewhine (R) ;)

[Surya Gayatri]

22. How many times

can Scalito repeat "I don't recall being a member of that organization..."

[realFedUp]

29. as often as he wants to lie under oath about it. nt

[CottonBear]

32. If he doesn't remember being a member how did he know to put on resume? nt

[hang a left]

38. He was given an opportunity by Biden to admit he just put it there

to garner favor. It was lose lose for him. That is his story and he is sticking to it.

[CottonBear]

39. Yep. He doesn't remember joining or putting it on the resume so

either he's lying or he's stupid and corrupt or both...

[WinkyDink]

34. I graduated 1971. I remember FULL WELL the organizations I joined AND

DIDN'T JOIN!
Whom does this guy think he's kidding??

And why can't he comment on Roe, since it's ESTABLISHED LAW?

OMG. Why can't America see Alito for what he is: a man who thinks "morality" means outlawing abortion, impeaching a President for extra-marital sex, siding with corporations as "citizens", and in general regarding the law as just dry words on lifeless paper---to be ignored by TPTB when convenient and to be used against "the little guy" when profitable?

[realFedUp]

42. He's just lying under oath to get this job.

Another best choice pick like Thomas was.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

41. I need to take off for a few hours... who's willing to create new threads?

Unfortunately, I do have a live outside of Politics... :rofl:

[realFedUp]

44. one of us will I'm sure...thanks for your oversight.

:-)

[yourout]

45. Wow....sure got a comment from Frist in a hurry.

Think they will get the documents that fast. This has them on the
run and the Dems need to turn up the heat.

[Pacifist Patriot]

46. Would someone PLEASE bite them for "smear campaign?"

I really wish a Dem on the committee would sink teeth into the ass kissing Republicans.

[realFedUp]

47. while I have Kyl on mute, Jonathan Alter's on with Al Franken..nt

[CottonBear]

49. Kyl needs some kneepads and some KY jelly. n/t

[realFedUp]

56. actually it's the Republican Senators servicing Alito...nt

[realFedUp]

50. Herb Kohl's on now...nt

[yourout]

51. Any more stroking from Kyl and I would have barfed.

[Pacifist Patriot]

48. The Republican posters of endorsements reminds me of...

movie commercials and book jackets that use a plethora of endorsements to hide the fact that the contents are crap.

[hang a left]

52. Just turned up the tv.

[Pacifist Patriot]

54. I don't know Kohl. What's he like?

[yourout]

57. One of my Senators and a good one.

We cheeseheads are blessed with two great Senators. Feingold and Kohl.

[Pacifist Patriot]

59. Lucky!

[gkhouston]

61. isn't he an older Dem from Wisconsin? Seemed like a moderate.

I thought some of his questions yesterday were decent but I'd like to see him heat the pincers. :evilgrin:

[Idioteque]

110. Ever heard of Kohl's department stores?

It's that Kohl.

He's no Russ Feingold but he's a pretty damn good Senator.

[Pacifist Patriot]

58. I can't express a view because it's still in the court system?

Bullshit!

[Surya Gayatri]

62. Liar!

The issue of separate but equal (Brown v. BOE)is no longer ever a point of litigation? :wtf:

[Pacifist Patriot]

63. I'd like to know if there is a law student in our country that hasn't...

studied both Brown v. BOE and Roe v. Wade and made a decision in his or her mind as to the merits of the case and constitutionality.

[Marie26]

67. It's impossible.

Either he's lying or he has no principles at all. Does anyone know when Feingold's up?

[CornField]

64. Do nominees have to undergo a medical exam?

I'm seriously beginning to wonder if Alito has medical issues with his memory.

[gkhouston]

66. he has no trouble remembering the names of dozens of legal

cases, and he seems well-acquainted with the details of anything he wants to talk about. Hmm.... :freak:

[Pacifist Patriot]

68. Yes, he doesn't need a medical exam. He needs a psych exam.

[Surya Gayatri]

70. No, he needs

to undergo a polygraph test!!! SG

[Surya Gayatri]

65. Go Kohl!

Pointing out the inconsistencies from yesterday--Alito distancing himself from his record! SG

[tedzbear]

71. Scalito bullshitting to burn up time...

...We KNOW what he had in mind then, but what about NOW? That was the question.

[Surya Gayatri]

73. Kohl citing

his record on "institutions" vs. "individuals". 84% of the time he has come down on the side of the "institution". SG

[dogday]

72. Alito against Individual Rights 84% of the time

holeeeee crap batman....

[Pacifist Patriot]

74. I heard that statistic this morning. The repugs responded by

giving us a handful of case names within the 16%. Whoopee!

[Surya Gayatri]

80. In only 1 in 8

cases did he rule in favor of the individual immigrant or refugee. 50% is nationwide figure. SG

[CornField]

75. Specter discussing the letter now

He was advised by his staff about the letter

[Pacifist Patriot]

79. Load of total hooey too.

[gumby]

76. A-Lie-To is just so clever.

It's not him or his interpretation that ruled 84% against individual rights. No, no, no he just did what the law called for.


A-Lie-To asks if "a reasonable person..." shows that he is NOT reasonable.

[Pacifist Patriot]

77. Who is Specter about the throw under the bus?

[WinkyDink]

Specter eating crow!

HAHA! Yeah, sure, Arlen. You and the Magic Bullet.
Oh, this is PAINFUL! HEE!

[Pacifist Patriot]

82. I love this. He's going to use the incompetency argument.

[realFedUp]

83. Apologize Arlen to Ted...

[Pacifist Patriot]

86. Nope! Instead he's blaming Ted for not mentioning it in the gym.

[doublethink]

118. ..........

[realFedUp]

78. Spector bringing up letter that Kennedy delivered to him

making excuses that the letter wasn't logged in...
yeah, right.

[realFedUp]

81. backpeddling, backpeddling, backpeddling....nt

[dogday]

84. Yea that's the ticket, it came on Christmas Eve

nobody around, forgot to log it in, yea that's right, that's what happened....

[realFedUp]

92. after being checked for anthrax I'm sure.....

[in_cog_ni_to]

85. Specter is admitting they had a letter.

They forgot to "log" Ted's letter during the braek.

GOOD. Give him the info he wants! NOW he's blaming KENNEDY for HIM not reading the freakin' letter! UNFUCKINGREAL!

[Pacifist Patriot]

88. My jaw dropped when he blamed Kennedy for not mentioning it

in the gym or giving it to someone else.

[in_cog_ni_to]

101. They NEVER claim responsibilty for ANYTHING.

:grr:

[Surya Gayatri]

87. Specter is a lying

"sack of crap". Sure, he just saw the letter an hour ago...:mad:

[Pacifist Patriot]

89. Here comes the cover up.

[snooper2]

91. What's in the letter?

nt

[Pacifist Patriot]

106. Kennedy made a request that CAP documents in the Library

of Congress be made available to the Judiciary Committee on December 22. This morning Specter claimed to have never seen the letter.

[CornField]

90. Did Specter just say that Alito was a major CAP donor?

Is that what I heard?

[Pacifist Patriot]

94. No, he said he wasn't.

[Greybnk48]

96. was NOT a donor

[hang a left]

103. Not a "major" donor.

[The Witch]

97. he tried to mushmouth it but i think i heard it too.

every time I leave my desk something amazing happens.

[hang a left]

99. He said that it was reported that he wasn't a "major" donor.

So, was he a minor donor????

[hang a left]

93. Uh oh....

Read: Record scrubbed.

[LSK]

100. Kennedys staffers are on the way to look at the CAP records

Where the FUCK is Kennedy?????????

[LSK]

105. Finally hes back

[in_cog_ni_to]

109. That's it. SHREDDED. Gone. n/t

[in_cog_ni_to]

95. Ted's staff is going to look at the

papers that haven't been SHREDDED yet.

[Pacifist Patriot]

98. Specter has the nerve to chastize Kennedy as if he were a freshman????

[lpbk2713]

102. This ought to be good ......

If Ted gets the opportunity to rebut these remarks.

[realFedUp]

104. Kennedy responds...

good thing that the records will be available.

[CornField]

107. And takes a bit of a jab at Alito in the process

[hang a left]

113. missed that...

what was the jab.

[CornField]

121. If Alito had been more forthcoming/transparent in these hearings

there would have been no need to press for the CAP papers

[realFedUp]

122. missed that also, just a little one at Arlen about not being in the gym

made me chuckle.

[dogday]

108. More Responsive Answers

did you see the look on Alito's face when Kennedy said this?

[seshers]

114. No. Please describe for cube rat.

[Surya Gayatri]

116. Bwaahahahahaha!

"I missed you in the gym--didn't get a chance to talk to you there!"--Ted

[realFedUp]

111. time for new thread...anyone doing this now?

[Pacifist Patriot]

112. Kennedy is far more of a gentleman than I'd have been. I'd bite back!

[Ksec]

115. Ive always admired Spectres honesty

I think I lost quite a bit over this

[LSK]

117. new thread, continues ->

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=109823&mesg_id=109827

[babylonsister]

119. So what's in those papers? nt

[Pacifist Patriot]

120. Thread 7 Link here. Someone else will have to lock 6

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=109823&mesg_id=109823

[Lex]

123. Locking per request.

See continued discussion in Thread #7 here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=109823&mesg_id=109823