What a &^%^%#$%$@# Mess........

[OhioChick]

Yes, I'm pissed. My vote will NOT count. For those of you that are clueless as to what I'm talking about:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1089404&mesg_id=1089673

I called the Board of Elections again and they found the problem, although they don't know what to do about it, or how to fix it. Apparently, someone else is using my voter ID #. (The man at the BOE was astonished and had no idea how this happened) All my information is the same, other than the name and address. This person registered in early April of this year. They said they cannot change it.........WTF??? They did give me this person's name and address.

The BOE said that my Provisional will NOT count, as someone is using my voter ID #. Wonderful, huh? (Their records confirm this "is" my ID #) The best that they could tell me to do is to write the BOE and explain what was told to me today.............????

If anyone has any ideas, I'd love to hear them as I'm frustrated as hell.......and tired of making calls to the BOE. Is there anything else I can do other than writing the very board that I've been speaking with?

Thanks in advance.

One pissed-off chick in Ohio

[Oversea Visitor]

1. Sue

He stole you vote
Federal crime

[SmokingJacket]

7. That person might not have done anything wrong...

They might have gone in to register and been assigned a number that was already in use.

It's a stupid, stupid, mistake to make -- and who knows, maybe even deliberate. Maybe someone thought it would be a good idea to reassign all those democratic voter numbers...

[SammyWinstonJack]

38. !

What a great :think: on the part of those who can't win elections based on their party performance, and thus have to resort to STEALING VOTES through whatever ILLEGAL avenues they avail themselves of.

[Tesha]

57. Sue. And if you can't afford it, call the ACLU. (NT)

[MADem]

2. ALERT THE MEDIA AND THE DNC...give them NAMES of people

you talked to. GO DOWN to town/city hall, or BOE, and personally speak with someone about this.

This is voter disenfranchisement, and someone broke the law. Come to think of it, you might want to go down to the police station and file a complaint. YOU may not be able to get the name of the person who stole your Voter ID, but they should be able to....

[OhioChick]

5. I have the name and address of the person

using my voter ID.

[MADem]

10. Go file a complaint with the cops, now, and maybe call a reporter

and tell them what you are doing. Sounds like a good Sunday paper story to me....

[Lochloosa]

18. This may be a stupid question....but have you checked your

credit report lately? Your voter ID may not be the only thing being used.

[mdmc]

20. you need the name of the dude that gave you the info

[Oversea Visitor]

3. Someone playing dirty tricks again

[madokie]

9. as the vote goes so goes the Constitution

[SoCalDem]

4. Damn.. That sucks..in spades

Every election season, I call or visit the registrar's office to make sure everything's current..

Last election, during the primary, they tried to give me a republican ballot..I created a bit of a scene and they gave me the democratic one, but a typo had me down as a repube.. Of course I didn;t notice it until I had already put the darned card into the machine, and when the poor old guy came to try and reset it with the new one, he could not figure out how to do it, so I went to a diffwerent machine with a different card. he had to call HQ to find out how to even turn the machine off :)

[Norquist Nemesis]

6. Call the Ohio Dems, your Congresscritter, your Senators

and then your lawyer.

And yes, even if your reps are (R), still call and complain. For all they know, you'ld be voting for them! *wink*

edit: Oh, and the media too! Local paper, as well as any liberal radio stations with national exposure.

[Beaverhausen]

13. I agree- these are the people you need to contact

[OhioChick]

14. Will start.........

as soon as I calm down a little. :grr:

[Norquist Nemesis]

16. No...don't wait till you calm down. Call now!

At least with calling your Reps. Honestly, call right now while you are feeling it.

The media can wait a day and you'll have more information, you'll have taken some action and be able to tell them about the response you're getting.

But call the Reps (and the Ohio Dem Party ASAP).

[leftchick]

8. I knew my vote would not count in 2002

2004 and now in 2006. I am outa here.

[alfredo]

11. Find out how widespread this problem is.

If Blackwell can't run an election, how in the hell can he run a state?

[OhioChick]

12. It took me a while to

get through to the BOE. (On hold) The man said the phone lines have been busy all day with problems. Said this isn't the first time he's heard of this happening. :grr:

[alfredo]

17. I wonder if this is another Republican dirty trick?

[redqueen]

31. I'm sure we'd all be shocked... shocked!... to find that is the case.

:sarcasm:

[alfredo]

33. Oh, they'd never do such a thing.

[fooj]

27. Excellent "tangible" point.

Peace.

[sojourner]

15. Please please please don't take this lying down!

I'm with whoever said: report this to the police (give them name and address and let them investigate) -- and call reporters. tell them all of it...including that this isn't only case of it happening.

Also, why not go to the elections forum and post there? DU has some awesome activists who will have a better notion of what you can do!

[mdmc]

19. You need a judges injunction to vote via paper ballot!

Get to the County Courthouse! Or call BofE and explain that you want to vote via affidavit ballot. If that don't work, call civil rights attorney Michael Sussman (Goshen, NY - one of the best civil rights attorneys in the country). He might not get your vote to count, but he will bring hell upon the BofE!

[demobabe]

21. I'd contact John Conyers' Office

He's been all over Election Fraud in Ohio, and the question must be asked: if your ID is being "used" by someone else, how many other Democrats' IDs are registered to another (perhaps Republican) voter?

This could be a fluke, or something bigger.

Either way, it illustrates a vulnerability in the voting system in Ohio.

I'd also contact Mark Crispin Miller (Author of "Fooled Again") and blogs that have been following election fraud (BradBlog has been all over election fraud). I'd also post at Kos.

PM me for help/contacts.

[Norquist Nemesis]

22. Kick!

:kick:

[The Witch]

23. 5th rec, for HAND COUNTS NOW PAPER BALLOTS NOW !

:mad: :mad: Hang in there sister!

[OhioChick]

24. Thanks for all your thoughts.......

I started off with calling my local congressman. Let's just say that he was very shocked....and very interested. He took down all the information. He seemed pissed that the BOE seemed to brush me off, said it's a federal crime and they have the special prosecutor at their disposal. Said this should have been passed over to him. (BOE also suggested that I "just" go to the local library and re-register. ???)

He's on it and will call back. In the meantime, I'll make some more calls. (as well as checking into my credit report, as suggested)

What a joke........Makes you wonder how many others this has happened to and were brushed off.

[johnnie]

25. I'm glad they are helping

I thought I was going to have a problem in the last election because something was strange. I was getting mail for another name and when one of the people working a campaign came by they had that other name at my address. I called and checked it out and everything was fine. I had no problem but I was concerned.

[AndyA]

26. I'm sorry to hear about your problem. Who would have thought that

voting would be such a big problem? We've done it for years and years, and I don't recall hearing much about having trouble until the electronic voting machines appeared on the scene. Coincidence?

I hope you're able to get this straightened out, but there have been so many issues in Ohio, I hope this isn't a preview of things to come.

Good luck, and please keep us advised.

[rman]

28. So they got a new trick: voter ID theft

(maybe not so new a trick)

I wonder if the other person's vote will count - after all just as in your case, some else (you) is using 'their' voter ID#.

Have you tried contacting the ACLU?

[OhioChick]

29. Contacted both senators.........

couldn't get a hold of the one........staff must be gone for the day. The other's office took down my information, didn't seem very interested and said if I didn't hear anything back from the other offices that I had already contacted.........to then call them back in 3 days. ???

[Janice325]

30. Good luck!

I hope you get to the bottom of this.
Hang in there and please keep us updated.
k&r

[OhioChick]

32. Just spoke with someone

from the DNC. (National Lawyer's Council) Very interested and getting involved, as well.

[rman]

34. good luck and keep us posted. nt

[myrna minx]

35. That's great news.

Please keep us posted. I'm so sorry this happened to you.

[redqueen]

36. That's great news!

Thank you for keeping us posted!

[niyad]

37. every one of these ideas is excellent--I would be tempted to call all the

local media (and local affiliates) and announce to them that you are going to be standing in front of the BOE office with a sign reading something like: "They F***** my vote, and refuse to do anything about it"
and question "WHO gave my ID to someone else??"

gather up some friends and make a party of it.

[Hubert Flottz]

43. Bush flew all the way to Texas at our expense to vote for Tom

DeLay, so why shouldn't our right to vote, be just as important? Ask them that...

[AnneD]

39. Raise 7 kinds of hell...

talk to the DEM party ACLU etc about voter supression. Sounds like a class action law suit to me.

[6000eliot]

40. I wonder if this kind of thing happens to registered Republicans?

[OhioChick]

41. Just got off the phone with

John Conyer's office. Very kind, sweet people there. Appalled at the situation. Took down all information. Apologized for not being able to help instantly, but will look into it. Several laws broken.......someone else having my voter ID #, the BOE giving me "their" name and address, etc. JC's office said to expect to hear back from them in a couple days.....they'll be looking into it.

[Alamom]

45. Everyone should check before voting day and make sure your

registration is up to date and you have a valid I.D. number.
This happened to my husband in 2000. It was an "honest" mistake, they said. We had moved, changed our place of voting, he had voted in our new precinct on local issues. Went to vote in the presedential election and they didn't have him listed. They found him listed "active" at our old precinct and he drove 60 miles to vote.

Prior to 11/2004, I checked our local office to make sure we both could vote without a problem. I'll do the same before this November.

Stay with it, my friend. Our situation could have been a mistake. What's happening there seems to be serious and the local people don't seem to be very interested in the fact,
your VOTE has been taken.


Sorry you have such a mess to resolve. Hopefully, the people you've called will help.

[OhioChick]

46. I haven't moved in a very long time.....

or changed my name for that matter. I made MANY calls today. Hopefully, I hear something back from someone within the next 24-48 hours.

[stillcool]

48. Well ....you have just given me...

a shot of desperately needed hope. Sometimes it seems so over-whelming...but watching your posts unfold...regardless of the outcome....is a testament to what one person can do. :yourock: :yourock: :yourock:

[druidity33]

42. K&R for visibility... n/t

[ChairmanAgnostic]

44. sue. call the ACLU. Call the papers. Get as angry as I am.

shit.

[IndyOp]

47. Call the local TV & radio stations, too!

:yourock:


:kick:

[Senator]

49. Get hold of a "Class Action" Trial lawyer - like Joel Hyatt

Contacting the people you have and alerting them is all well and good. It must be done and can get some "results."

But I would suggest that you at least explore "going massive." For all you/we know this "glitch" occurs in the thousands or tens of thousands; in critical areas.

This could be THE smoking gun on all election thefts since 2000. And even if it isn't, it can be treated as such until disproved.

What I mean specifically is that you should try to secure a high-profile celebrity attorney and sue the State of Ohio, Ken Blackwell personally as SOS, and even this "John Doe" who voted with your number (you don't have to care how it happened).

You should sue for damages in the tens of millions, in anticipation of a class action suit bringing in all thwarted voters. The big dollar sign will get coverage and make an impact.

I would suggest you try to get a meeting with Joel Hyatt himself. He's got big-time "juice" in Ohio and is "currently" the business partner of Al Gore.

We've been working to put the "burden of proof" where it belongs. On those who are charged with giving the People election results they can have confidence in.

Your case could be a huge advance toward that goal. (Please feel free to PM me if you'd like to explore this option further in private.)

----
www.january6th.org

[rucky]

50. email Bob Fitrakis

he's on top of this stuff.

[katinmn]

51. One thing I've noticed in all the coverage of the latest

problems in Ohio is frequent reference to unnamed election "supervisers."

They are described as dropping the ball, giving erroneous info (lie), not knowing how to run the machines, not showing up, failing to respond, not doing their jobs.

Are the election supervisors appointed by Blackwell? It seems that the fraud is very widespread and entrenched again and nothing has been done to correct it.

[OhioChick]

52. I "expect" to hear from at least

"something" from any of the people that I contacted yesterday, sometime today. I'll give it until this afternoon. This shouldn't take days to figure out..........it took me one phone call and I knew quickly what had happened. Should I not hear anything by later today........I WILL take further action. This is ridiculous....

[Norquist Nemesis]

54. Just a quick (and stupid) question about your Voter ID#...

Can you explain this a little bit, please? Is it a number like an SS# or Driver License number that gets assigned to you when you register?

I'm not familiar with an ID number being attached. :shrug:

[OhioChick]

58. Yes

Everyone has their own voter ID #.

[mdmc]

56. did you hear anything?

:kick:

[OhioChick]

59. Someone

from the BOE called today.......very nervous and frazzled. Wouldn't give me their full name, but "assured" me that it would all be cleared up. Was VERY brief. Didn't answer questions.

Tried getting a hold of the ACLU to speak with someone, but have to write a letter instead.

Things are moving slow here.....but moving.

[mdmc]

61. thanks for the update ohiochick

I hope you get this all resolved. Your a :patriot: for fighting to vote! Peace

[Media_Lies_Daily]

53. Take it to the Feds....what's happened to you is a crime.

[AuntiBush]

55. There must be other Ohio Voters Just as Angry.

have you tried finding support in your area?

[newspeak]

60. so, is it an anomaly or something else?

Imagine if you had someone at the Registrars office giving Democratic numbers to new Republican registrars? Need to see how many duplicate numbers are out there, in what areas, and percentage of Democratic or Republican stolen. This would be a very interesting investigation--of course, it could be just an anomaly.

[LSK]

62. please please please call the DNC and tell them your story

I would start with this one

202-863-8000

http://www.democrats.org/page/s/contact

Maybe you can contact the local democratic party also.

http://www.democrats.org/a/2005/06/ohio.php

Ohio Democratic Party
271 E State St
Columbus, OH 43215
614-221-6563
614-221-0721 (fax)

http://www.ohiodems.org/

Chair: Hon. Chris Redfern
Vice Chair: Hon. Rhine McLin
Executive Director: Michael Culp

If you fight it maybe the DNC can provide a lawyer to look into it.

Just keep making noise about it please!

Also try to get on AAR.

This stuff has to get out there.

[OhioChick]

64. Already Have. n/t

[sakabatou]

63. Holy crap...

:wow: