leftofthedial
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Wed Jan-11-06 02:19 PM
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Alito for the SCOTUS is not about ANY social issue |
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He is the most rabid pro-corporatist in the history of the court. The corporations want Scalito. He is their man. The racism, sexism, theofascist anti-choice crap is just peripheral nonsense. The corporations own the Senate Dems every bit as much as they own the repukes and the corporations want Alito. Period. Alito is a lock and only a handful of Dems will even question it.
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Wed Jan-11-06 02:22 PM
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1. That and the consolidation of the Executive power |
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Although both issues are tied together. Bryant Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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Wed Jan-11-06 02:31 PM
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ultimately, corporate power and executive power are one and the same. Congress is still too "democratic" to serve corporate interests. They prefer an all-powerful, corporation-friendly exec. They already know how to rig "elections."
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Wed Jan-11-06 02:24 PM
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2. Sadly, you are correct. |
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Wed Jan-11-06 02:32 PM
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4. Here is hoping you will eat your words. |
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Wed Jan-11-06 03:30 PM
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but if Alito isn't confirmed, the next nominee will be just as bad
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Wed Jan-11-06 02:33 PM
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5. Then the Democratic Party is a failure and the Activist Base must |
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abandon it in favor of another party.
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leftofthedial
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Wed Jan-11-06 03:41 PM
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14. don't you think that is increasingly obvious? |
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we might as well be rooting for the visiting team in roller derby
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Wed Jan-11-06 02:44 PM
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6. The corporate world, as a business matter doesn't really care that much... |
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Most government issues affecting business are decided in Congress. Some issues come to the courts. Most of them have corporations lining up on both sides of the issue. I'm somewhat attuned to the corporate world -- working in it and investing in it -- and most of what gets said about Alito has to do with the political considerations you demean: civil liberty, state and church, education, and executive power. And the corporate world is split. The notion that they are uniform on this is hogwash.
I know there is a faction here that wants to paint business as the devil's work, and the corporate world as in Bush's pocket. Just as there is a faction on the extreme right that tries to paint liberals as aligned with radical Islam.
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Wed Jan-11-06 03:06 PM
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7. Don't be so sure. With the extreme excesses of corporate power |
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of the past couple decades there is bound to be a reaction -- having a solid corporatist added to a corporate friendly court will forestall any move to revisit the decision of 130 years ago that 'corporations are persons'. A change in that ruling would literally overthrow the corporate world, and they must prevent that at all costs. We are looking like previous eras where corporations controlled the governments -- the British East India Company running the British Empire; the Hanseatic League wielding more power than the governments of the nations it thrived in; and most recently the corporatist fascism of the first half of the last century.
The corporate world is not in Bush's pocket -- Bush is in the corporate world's pocket, or at least the pocket of certain major corporate entities.
And when you think about it, unbridled corporate power is the greatest enemy that business can have -- why do you think Teddy Roosevelt was so aggressive is busting the monopolies of his day? Because they were bad for business. Look at Enron. Worldcom. Look at Abramoff.
Maybe you're too close to the trees to see the forest.
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Wed Jan-11-06 03:21 PM
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8. There's not a single justice looking to overturn Santa Clara v Sthn Pac |
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I think the notion that corporations have 14th amendment rights is pretty stupid. Alas, it also is very settled law. I can't think of a circumstance where it seriously gets challenged, or a single justice who is looking to change that case law. It takes a lot of surmising to think that the Alito nomination is relevant to that.
Teddy Roosevelt busted trusts as president. He used the Sherman act, which was passed by Congress and signed into law by Harrison. The courts generally have given the government considerable leeway in such matters. Whatever issues there are with corporate power, it's hard for me to see the Alito nomination bearing much on them.
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Wed Jan-11-06 04:16 PM
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15. I suppose you're probably right. |
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It's hard to imagine a popular movement and a court challange arising over coroporate personhood. That is one of the many "huh?" areas with the general public, no concept of how it affects them.
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Wed Jan-11-06 03:32 PM
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11. the corporate world is not in bush's pocket |
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Wed Jan-11-06 03:25 PM
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9. It's about corruption- and breaking his word to the Senate |
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Edited on Wed Jan-11-06 03:27 PM by depakid
by not recusing himself on the case involving Vanguard- when he had a financial interest at stake.
The man's unethical. That's the beginning and end of it as far as I'm concerned.
And if the Dems fail as a party to block him- then they've show that they don't care enough about corruption to exercise their power to do something about it.
If that's the case- then they don't deserve to be the majority party. And come next November- they won't be.
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Wed Jan-11-06 03:33 PM
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12. sadly, your concern (and mine) is irrelevant |
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Edited on Wed Jan-11-06 03:37 PM by leftofthedial
government is a show
it's pro rasslin
it is not about justice or truth or what's good for people
not anymore.
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Wed Jan-11-06 03:37 PM
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13. But, but, but NYT sez: "He's open on abortion issues" then hits the dems |
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Edited on Wed Jan-11-06 03:38 PM by robbedvoter
with a subtitle "But enough about you judge, I want to hear myself speak" - right under a pic of Kennedy, leahy and Biden - so as not to be any confusion. Curtesy our old friend, Elizabeth Bumillier me, i think its about the end of this civilization and the plunge into the dark ages - but what do I know?
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