I surrender - I give up - I quit

[stop the bleeding]

I am giving up on posting the daily Court filings from the Libby case,

A bunch of us thought that it might be good to have a place to research these like here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=358x3589

Over the past few days I have had several people try to help with getting a location/procedure in place for hosting these PDF files as they are made available for the public from the Libby trial. I would like to say thank you to those DU'ers, but either I am too stupid with computers, or the sites have some kind of hang up with hosting large PDF files.

This is my last distress call on this if I can not get a resolution - AN EASY ONE THAT WORKS - then I will let this drop and the people here that could use this stuff will have to go elsewhere or not get it at all.

So if there is anyone who can help me with this I would appreciate it - also several other DU'ers will appreciate this.

- here is my situation

I have several PDF files saved to my computer, I do not have a web site, server or anything else except a plain ole desk top computer with windows XP.

These PDF's range 1 - 2MB a piece, eventually there may be hundreds of PDF's available that I would like to have ALL OF THEM AVAILABLE and linked here at DU.

My problem has been either - the files exceed the space, or I get too many downloads from the host site to make this a viable option, when this too many download thing happens it shuts the files down.

So I need a viable option that will let me host several upon several 1 - 2MB PDF files from computer.

Remember I am stupid if you are responding to this and you are a tech person - you guys say stuff that goes right over my head.

People have sent me all over the internet and I have wasted all of my time, if people would like to help - they are gonna have to hold my hand on this - I am sorry, but this kind of thing is hard to understand/ do over a chat board.

I am even willing to pm someone with my work phone number so that I can discuss this in person - THAT IS HOW IMPORTANT THESE FILINGS ARE TO DU

Please people don't let this potential source of excellence research on Plame/Libby fall by the wayside.

Please DU I am on my hands and knees begging you - I am desperate - I am at my last straw with this.

Please.....

[sinkingfeeling]

1. Sorry, I don't have the tech knowledge to help you, but will kick this up.

Is it possible that DU has a space where you could upload the PDF files to?

[stop the bleeding]

4. I pm'd

Elad and he said that they would not be able to help me - the poster below suggested benburch - I am trying them now

thanks for your guys help

[tridim]

2. Have you tried contacting the mods here?

Maybe they could host them. After that try asking http://whiterosesociety.org

100 1MB files is not very large by today's standards.

[DearAbby]

3. Awwwwww KICKING FOR STB....

Sorry STB I am not computer savy, but this is important.

so Big Kick :kick:

[greyl]

5. Check your PM

I set up a website specifically for your use.
It should be fairly simple from here on out.

[niyad]

8. thank you so much--I had no way of helping, but didn't want to see all

that work and effort go for naught.

[myrna minx]

10. Thank you. STB has been tireless putting all of this together.

I wish I could help, but beyond turning on the computer, I'm totally clueless.

[Junkdrawer]

6. Try a PM to benburch of the White Rose Society...

PM to Ben:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=send_mesg&u_id=111047

White Rose Society
http://whiterosesociety.org/

In exchange, perhaps you could plug his fund-raising? :shrug:

[DrDebug]

7. rapidshare.de

Just upload them there and it'll be kept online as long as there is at least one download per thirty days. And it's a very quick server as well.

[demobabe]

9. Take Back The Media can host them

PM me and we'll get it set up

[Finder]

11. Good luck, important info. n/t

[Nomad559]

12. My list of free hosting sites

You should be able to find something that works for you at one of these sites.

http://www.sendover.com
2GB

http://www.snaggys.com
2GB

http://www.bigupload.com
2GB

http://www.megashares.com
1.5GB

http://www.badongo.com -- Streaming
1GB - Free account download limit is 150mb / hour

http://www.transferbigfiles.com/Default.aspx
1GB - 5 days or 20 downloads

http://freespace.filefront.com/1
1GB

http://www.filebull.com - (Registration Required)
1GB - Each file can be up to 22MB

http://www.verzend.be
1GB - Files are removed after 7 days of non activity

http://bigfileupload.com
1GB

http://www.spread-it.com
500MB

http://www.sexuploader.com
500MB

http://zupload.com
500MB

http://www.filefactory.com/upload
500MB -- 1.5GB

http://www.mooload.com -- Streaming ?
500MB

https://upload.video.google.com -- Streaming
500MB

http://webfilehost.com/index.php? -- Streaming ?
500MB

http://www.filehd.com
500MB

http://www.filelodge.com/index.php?pg=p6 - (Registration Required) -- Streaming
500MB - Maximum file size 50MB

http://tv.isg.si/site/?q=node/153 - (Registration Required)
333MB

http://www.sendspace.com
300MB

http://www.rapidupload.com
300MB

http://www.uploading.com
300Mb

http://ww2.sharebigfile.com
300MB

http://www.updownloadserver.com
250MB

http://www.megaupload.com
250MB

http://www.filecache.de/upload
250MB

http://www.bonpoo.com
250MB

http://myfilehut.com - (Registration Required)
250MB - 20MB Uploads per file

http://www.thefilehut.com - (Registration Required)
250MB - Upload limit Is 2MB

http://supload.com/sendfile
200MB - 7 day life span and 30 download per file limit

http://www.fileupyours.com - (Registration Required)
200MB

http://www.rapidsharing.com
200MB

http://video.freevideoblog.com/Upload/Upload.uplx -- Streaming
150MB - Max length: 15 minutes

http://videos.streetfire.net/Upload/Upload.uplx -- Streaming
150MB - Max length: 15 minutes ?

http://www.grabme.net
120MB

http://www.justupit.com
120MB

http://www.zippyvideos.com -- Streaming
100MB - (Registration Required)
20MB - (No Registration Required)
Only Video

http://www.youtube.com/my_videos_upload.php -- Streaming
100MB - Max length: 10 minutes

http://www.metacafe.com/submit/upload -- Streaming - (Registration Required)
100MB

http://www.photobucket.com - (Registration Required) -- Streaming
3 minutes - 100 MB

http://www.rapidshare.de
100MB - Inactive link deleted after 30 days

http://www.dropload.com - (Registration Required)
100MB - Files are removed from the system after 7 days

http://www.storeandserve.com
100MB

http://www.filehost.ro
100MB

http://www.zshare.net
100MB

http://quickdump.com
100MB

http://www.4shared.com - (Registration Required)
100Mb

http://www.content-type.com
100MB

http://www.mysharebox.com
100MB

http://www.yousendit.com
100MB - 25 downloads or 7 days

http://www.sceneworld.net
100MB

http://www.easy-sharing.com
75MB

http://www.turboupload.com
70MB

http://www.savefile.com
60MB

http://www.ushareit.com
50MB

http://app02.bonpoo.com/file.htm
50MB

http://www.yourfilehost.com/index.php -- Streaming
50MB - Temporarly the maximum allowed file size Is 30MB on all new uploads

http://www.ihud.com
50MB

http://www.uploadsend.com
50MB

http://www.friendlyshare.de
50MB

http://www.getfile.biz/upload/cl.html
50MB

http://www.sendmefile.com/index.htm
50MB

http://www.uploadraid.com - (Registration Required)
50MB

http://www.videosup.com/index.php
50MB

http://www.crazefiles.com
50MB

http://www.filebuffer.net
40MB

http://www.mytempdir.com
40MB - 14 Days

http://s9.11mbit.in
40MB

http://www.35mb.com - (Registration Required)
35MB

http://up.li.ru
35MB

http://www.ultrashare.net
30MB - 30 days or you delete it

http://www.uploadtemple.com
30MB

http://www.ripway.com - (Registration Required)
30MB - 15MB of daily downloads

http://www.scambia.com
30MB

http://www.vapshare.com
25MB

http://upload2.net
25MB

http://www.myfilestash.com - (Registration Required)
25MB

http://www.momoshare.com
25MB

http://www.putfile.com -- Streaming - (Registration Required)
25MB

http://www.refrozen.com
20MB - 25MB Registered users

http://keepmyfile.com
20MB

http://eng.webfile.ru
20 MB

http://www.dumpafile.com -- Streaming
20MB

http://www.filecabi.net/free-video-hosting.html -- Streaming
10MB

http://www.flurl.com/upload.php -- Streaming
10MB

http://www.ezupload.org
10MB - ?

http://www.filesupload.com - (Registration Required)
10MB

http://www.4shared.com - (Registration Required)
10MB a File - limit of 100Mb

http://hyperupload.com
10MB

http://www.wirefiles.com
5MB

http://www.freeuploader.com
5MB

http://www.send-file.co.uk
5MB

http://www.autoclips.net/upload/upload2.php
Storage ?

http://www.ourmedia.org - (Registration Required) -- Streaming
Storage ?

[JuniperLea]

13. PDF's are huge

Got Adobe Writer? You may be able to convert them to a Word file and just copy and paste them...

[Catrina]

17. Is that possible? I can't download PDF files, but really appreciate STB's

work in trying to keep all this information available. I would love to be able to read them in a Word file if that is at all possible. PDF files destroy my computer.

Thank you STB for all you are doing. We really appreciate it ~ :hi:

[Just Me]

22. They are such a pain-in-the-arse to load, let alone zip and paste.

I've grinded my teeth over this problem and cursed those who've chosen pdf for the format. I mean, seriously, is that the ONLY 'ware by which to scan and post to the web? :shrug: IT SUCKS!!!!

[JuniperLea]

27. But if you convert to Word

You can put it in HTML, right?

[Catherine Vincent]

14. Oh nooooooooo! Please don't leave DU!

j/j :-)

Sorry, I wish I could help you. :hi:

[DemReadingDU]

15. kicking for STB!

need a techie for STB!

[newyawker99]

16. kick

:kick:

[LSK]

18. did you try benburch?

Maybe he can host them on Whiterosesociety.org.

[kpete]

19. K&R

[klook]

20. I like the idea of using one of the free hosting sites

helpfully listed by Nomad559. If you can do that, and have the bandwidth in your Internet connection to upload them there, that would help.

One problem with these files is that PDFs made from scans tend to be larger. For example, on the Plame page at http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=358&topic_id=3589&mesg_id=3589 these two files illustrate the difference:

• 04/05/2006 Memorandum Opinion - 13 pages (562 kb) - scanned document


• 04/05/2006 RESPONSE by USA as to I. LEWIS LIBBY re 68 Third MOTION to Compel DISCOVERY UNDER RULE 16 AND BRADY - 39 pages (204 kb)


See? The first example, which is a scanned document, is a third as big as the other one in terms of page-length (13 pages vs. 39), but it's more than twice as big in computer file size (562 kb vs. 204 kb). That's because a PDF file of a scanned document contains a picture of each page, which is generally going to be larger than a PDF that contains actual editable text.

Click the "T" icon in the Acrobat Reader toolbar and you'll see that in the scanned document you can't select the text (because it's just a picture of text), whereas in the one that's not scanned, you can select and copy text, and even paste it into another document.

If you're not creating the PDF files yourself, I don't know of a way to reduce the file size of the scanned documents. For the non-scanned documents (like the second one listed above), you could conceivably copy the text and then paste it into something like Word or, even better, Notepad. The steps would be these:
1. In Adobe Acrobat Reader, Control-A on a Windows machine to select all the text in the document.
2. Control-C (still in Acrobat Reader) to copy it.
3. In Word or Notepad, Control-V to paste the text.
4. Clean up as necessary and save the file as Plain Text.

Since the non-scanned PDFs are relatively small, you don't save all that much by doing this. But it would help some. For example--by selecting all the text in the second file listed above (04/05/2006 RESPONSE by USA as to I. LEWIS LIBBY re 68 Third MOTION...) and pasting it into Notepad, I reduced the file size from 204 kb to 80 kb. It's somewhat laborious, though, because the lines break oddly so you'd have to delete a lot of extraneous carriage returns to make it look right.

Hope this info is helpful and not confusing. PM me or post to this thread if you have questions.

edited to add link to Nomad559's post listing free hosting sites.

[Just Me]

21. I wish I could help but, I'm on dial-up and pdf files KILL ME!!!

It takes twenty freakin' minutes just to load a 30-page document and I HATE IT!!!

If I had unlimited time and a faster connection, I'd jump all over that WITH YOU. I would.

I'm a novice re zipping and copying such files (I've torn my hair out trying to do that).

Surely, there is someone here who can zip/zap that material and pin it up for easy access. I wish it was me. *frown*

But, please do NOT give up. Someone here has the patience and wherewithall to help. Maybe, they're just not here right now because of work or other demands.

Meanwhile, I just want to tell you "I APPRECIATE YOUR DEDICATION AND ALL YOUR WORK ON THIS MATTER". I'll repeat cause, seriously, people DO NEED to hear such things more than once, "I APPRECIATE YOUR DEDICATION AND ALL YOUR WORK ON THIS MATTER!!!!"

Thank you!!! :hug:

[karlrschneider]

23. I'm a little confused as to what exactly is your dilemma. If the files

are already on the 'internets' somewhere (and I assume they are since you've essentially said as much) why not just post links to where-ever you found them? Maybe I'm having a stupid day but I don't see the problem...
??

[stop the bleeding]

24. UPDATE HERE: - AND THANK YOU

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1093968&mesg_id=1093968

[klook]

25. GREAT!! And your thread just made the Greatest page

thanks to Recommendation #5 from yours truly.

Thank you for all the hard work. Let us know if you need help or have questions, and I'll assist if I can.

[BrightKnight]

26. Cooperative Research and Internet Archive

The people at Cooperative Research could probably help with this.

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/index.jsp

The would propbably work with you directly. The site is always in a funding crisis and they may not be there indeffinately.

----------

Internet Archive:

http://www.archive.org/

Internet Archive is well funded and not going anywhere.

[benburch]

28. Email them to me...

I will put them up on White Rose.

send to benburch AT pobox DOT com

They will be on http://server2.whiterosesociety.org/libby/ when I get them.

[benburch]

29. Did you email them? nt

[Justice Is Comin]

30. Thanks Ben.

STB does great work and painstaking research. It would be a travesty to lose this.