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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 03:40 PM
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Minutemen trek toward DC in anti-immigrant drive
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060503/us_nm/usa_immigration_minutemen_dc_1;_ylt=AksHDI6yNO8otvawgWgMgMtQuk0A;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - The Minuteman Project border patrol group began a 10-day cross-country caravan on Wednesday to Washington, D.C., demanding tougher immigration controls with Mexico and "a fence that will last 150 years."

Fueled by frustration over a Latino boycott and marches that brought almost a million people onto U.S. streets on Monday, the Minutemen said their drive to the U.S. capital would also highlight the jobs it said black Americans were losing to low-wage immigrant workers.

"When you have 1 million illegal aliens marching on the streets, that is a declaration of domination over the United States. And that is not acceptable," said Jim Gilchrist, who founded the volunteer border control group in Southern California a year ago.

"Our cause is not a racial cause. It is a rule-of-law cause," Gilchrist told a news conference held in a predominantly black Los Angeles neighborhood.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 03:46 PM
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1. The pro-immigration demonstrators better not act surprised. They knew
that this was coming.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 03:48 PM
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2. Oh yeah, they'll be shocked. Just shocked.
When Jethro, Annie Mae, Granny, and Uncle Jed roll up they won't know what to do with themselves.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 03:57 PM
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4. "highlight the jobs it said black Americans were losing..."
Puh-leaze. The Minutemen would be shooting at black people if they didn't have this border issue to obsess themselves with.
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Dr. Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 04:21 PM
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5. They're right, black people HAVE lost jobs to illegals.
And I don't think it's fair to say the minutemen would be shooting at them either. I don't know much about the minutemen, but from this article it sounds like they at least have one issue nailed.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 04:48 PM
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8. They are bigots
So I think it is very fair to say they would be shooting at blacks.

Listen to their hateful rhetoric. You may think they have the issue nailed, but their racism comes through loud and clear.
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Dr. Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 04:51 PM
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11. Do you have any examples of their racist remarks?
Just wondering...all I've heard is that they're fighting for border security, but heard nothing about them being racist in the sense of traditional racist groups...
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 05:20 PM
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15. Oh brother! Chris Simcox, co-founder? He's a real peach. Look him up.
Here's another snip from these American heroes:


-snip-
"It should be legal to kill illegals," said Carl, a 69-year old retired Special Forces veteran who fought in Vietnam and now lives out West. "Just shoot 'em on sight. That's my immigration policy recommendation. You break into my country, you die."
....

"I agree completely," Michael said. "You get up there with a rifle and start shooting four or five of them a week, the other four or five thousand behind them are going to think twice about crossing that line."
....

"Well, this may sound a little weird, but I just have more respect for the lives of stray cats and dogs than I do illegal aliens."

"That's not weird at all," Michael said. "Not one damn bit."


Uh, yeah. They're racists. And you're really fooling yourself if you think they're not.

http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?pid=915


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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 06:57 PM
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21. Yup. Check out this post...
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 06:59 PM
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22. Pictures say a thousand words.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 11:39 PM
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29. Have you never seen them on TV?
They are pretty out in the open with their racism.
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PsN2Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 05:11 PM
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13. They aren't shooting at the Latinos
coming over the border so why do you say they would be shooting at blacks? Of course you folks in Kansas are way more up on border issues that those of us in Southern Arizona.
I'll tell you if I go into the desert now, I go armed, for self protection. And not from snakes.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 05:20 PM
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16. Protection from what, do tell?
Edited on Wed May-03-06 05:53 PM by SemiCharmedQuark
Do you carry guns when you go out into the cities? There's bad people there too, you know. Also, some of them DO want to shoot mexicans. Check out some links.

On Edit:

Most of my family is split between the Texas border and Mexico and I spend quite a bit of time there, so don't bother with the "You're in Illinois/Indiana, you don't understand!" crap.
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PsN2Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 06:18 PM
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20. I wasn't bothering you with any "crap"
Coyotes and our friendly Mexican drug smugglers are why so many feel they have to go armed. And those other illegals here, just trying to feed their families, that are near the border, both sides, robbing the poor bastard illegals of anything they might have left from the coyotes.
Wow. You're family is "between the Texas border and Mexico". What do you do, all line up sideways and stand tippy-toe?
Show me the link where any of the minutemen HAVE shot Mexicans.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 07:40 PM
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24. No, now try and read carefully this time.
Edited on Wed May-03-06 07:48 PM by SemiCharmedQuark
My family is "split between the Texas border and Mexico". See how that works?

Do I need to show you a link where the Neo Confederates HAVE shot people for you to believe they aren't right?

And this is the crap I'm talking about:

"Of course you folks in Kansas are way more up on border issues that those of us in Southern Arizona"
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PsN2Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 10:43 PM
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26. Learn to write a coherent sentence
and it wouldn't be necessary to read and reread to try a determine your meaning. Even reading slowly "split between the Texas border and Mexico" which abut, makes little sense to me.
Show me the link where the Minutemen, the group talked about in the original post, have shot people.
When there are as many illegals crossing the Missouri River as coming across the border, thirty miles to the South of where I live, people living in Kansas can lecture me on the nature of illegal immigration.
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 07:27 PM
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23. Black Activists Join To March With Minutemen
http://cbs2.com/topstories/local_story_113105613.html


CBS) LOS ANGELES Several black activists plan to join members of the Minutemen Project to protest illegal immigration, which organizer Ted Hayes touted as the "biggest threat to blacks in America since slavery."

The protest, organized by Hayes' Crispus Attucks Brigade and the American Black Citizens Opposed to Illegal Immigration Invasion, is scheduled to start at 1 p.m.

Hayes, a homeless activist, alleged that most homeless people in Los Angeles are black and illegal immigration compounds the problem since blacks refuse to accept the "slave wages" that many illegal immigrants accept.
<snip>


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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 03:56 PM
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3. A 150 year fence
Well it's kind of like the Thousand Year Reich?
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 04:33 PM
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6. I hope everyone shows up at the same place and explodes. SOmething
has got to give on this and all the other shit they've been ignoring in their lust for gay bashing and flag waving.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 04:35 PM
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7. Have them stop at Stuckey's and pick me up a pecan log... n/t
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 04:49 PM
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9. LOL
Are there even any Stuckey's around anymore? We don't have any around here.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 04:59 PM
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12. Yeah they are still around in the rural areas
being on a tour bus all year I run into them occasionally....
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 04:50 PM
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10. Ahh, the minutemen... Are they still connected to white supremacist groups
????

Or did they finally break those ties...
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 11:15 PM
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27. Let's ask Kris Kobach
LOL
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 05:15 PM
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14. were they still waving the Stars & Bars
while bemoaning the fate of the jobs black Americans are losing to immigration? :silly:
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verse18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 05:22 PM
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17. "black Americans were losing
to low-wage immigrant workers."

Since when have Minutemen and groups of the like given a flying fuck about unemployed Black Americans?
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 05:23 PM
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18. Remember when the KKK said that Latinos had it easy compared to AAs?
Same principle.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 05:28 PM
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19. LOL! I feel so much safer now!
:rofl:

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 11:20 PM
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28. Better get to cookin!
I hear dem boys love guacomole! LOL
:rofl:
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Evoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 08:07 PM
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25. Bigots the lot of them
"their drive to the U.S. capital would also highlight the jobs it said black Americans were losing to low-wage immigrant workers."

Why have the fucking Latinos do the shit jobs when we got perfectly good blacks to do it for us.


Lol..even when they try not to be racists, they are still bigots.

When a bunch of neo nazis agree with your position, it may be about time to do a re-evaluation of your beliefs.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 11:41 PM
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30. Good. That will get them out of the way.
I hope they enjoy how ignored by Washington that they are going to be. Maybe it will open their scabby eyes to the real problem; BIG BUSINESS.
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