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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 10:14 PM
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Do You Think Bush Will Receive A General Pardon
Do you think Bush will be pardoned for his crimes in a situation similar to Gerald Ford's treatment of Nixon and if so who will do it?
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Blackthorn Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 10:15 PM
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1. He'd have to be charged first...
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 10:20 PM
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5. Nope, see Ford's full pardon of Nixon:
President Gerald R. Ford's Proclamation 4311, Granting a Pardon to Richard Nixon
September 8, 1974

By the President of the United States of America a Proclamation

Richard Nixon became the thirty-seventh President of the United States on January 20, 1969 and was reelected in 1972 for a second term by the electors of forty-nine of the fifty states. His term in office continued until his resignation on August 9, 1974.

Pursuant to resolutions of the House of Representatives, its Committee on the Judiciary conducted an inquiry and investigation on the impeachment of the President extending over more than eight months. The hearings of the Committee and its deliberations, which received wide national publicity over television, radio, and in printed media, resulted in votes adverse to Richard Nixon on recommended Articles of Impeachment.

As a result of certain acts or omissions occurring before his resignation from the Office of President, Richard Nixon has become liable to possible indictment and trial for offenses against the United States. Whether or not he shall be so prosecuted depends on findings of the appropriate grand jury and on the discretion of the authorized prosecutor. Should an indictment ensue, the accused shall then be entitled to a fair trial by an impartial jury, as guaranteed to every individual by the Constitution.

It is believed that a trial of Richard Nixon, if it became necessary, could not fairly begin until a year or more has elapsed. In the meantime, the tranquility to which this nation has been restored by the events of recent weeks could be irreparably lost by the prospects of bringing to trial a former President of the United States. The prospects of such trial will cause prolonged and divisive debate over the propriety of exposing to further punishment and degradation a man who has already paid the unprecedented penalty of relinquishing the highest elective office of the United States.

Now, THEREFORE, I, GERALD R. FORD, President of the United States, pursuant to the pardon power conferred upon me by Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution, have granted and by these presents do grant a full, free, and absolute pardon unto Richard Nixon for all offenses against the United States which he, Richard Nixon, has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 20, 1969 through August 9,1974.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand this eighth day of September, in the year of our Lord nineteen hundred and seventy-four, and of the Independence of the United States of America the one hundred and ninety-ninth.

GERALD R. FORD

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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 10:15 PM
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2. If a Democratic president pardons him, I'll be damned.
That sums up my position.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 10:00 PM
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12. Aw, you're probly gonna be damned anyway.
But I'm betting that the machine installs Hillary in 2008 & she pardons Bush in the first month.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 10:15 PM
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3. Undoubtedly if a GOPer gets elected in '08
But that cannot save him from prosecution in the World Court.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 10:49 PM
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9. It is my understanding that current law compels the POTUS
to recover using "any means necessary" any US nationals held by the International Criminal Court.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 09:34 PM
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10. Presidential directive most likely
but not the law of the land.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 03:17 PM
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13. See the Servicemembers Protection Act of 2002
nt
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 10:19 PM
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4. When this is over he's gonna have to run and hide.
His name will be mud and his legacy will be mythical, in that, no one will believe that he got away with it for so long.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 10:21 PM
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6. from GUILIANI? or from McCAIN? n/t
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 10:22 PM
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7. nothing will pardon him at the world court.
war crimes, aggressive war, torture and murder have no statute of limitations either.

someone may look for him to answer for his crimes one day.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 10:22 PM
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8. Won't prevent Impeachment: Constitution prohibits pardoning of Impeachment
And if treason is the charge (and it will be if Dems get control), then NO ONE will pardon him for that.
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No New War Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 09:36 PM
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11. Yeah, maybe if he resigned from office?
Then maybe we could pardon him, but he won't give up the throne he imagines he's sitting on.
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