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PhilipShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 03:32 PM
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Jason Leopold: Fitzgerald maintains focus on Rove...
Columbus Free Press
Fitzgerald maintains focus on Rove but attorney says 'Architect' not a target
Jason Leopold
January 11, 2006

http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/20/2006/1700

Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald is said to have spent the past month preparing evidence he will present to a grand jury alleging that White House Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove knowingly made false statements to FBI...
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Halliburton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 03:35 PM
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1. luskin finally resurfaced
it's been a while.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 03:36 PM
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2. We always offer plea deals to non-suspects.
:eyes:
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 03:37 PM
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3. I'm glad he's still working on the case
I hope he's finished soon.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 03:43 PM
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4. Don't mean to prejudge or anything, but...
GUILTY!! GUILTY!! GUILTY!! GUILTY!! GUILTY!! GUILTY!! GUILTY!! GUILTY!!
:mad: :argh: :grr: :nuke: :thumbsdown: :rant:
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 03:48 PM
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5. I'll have to adjust my tinfoil hat a bit
Was this nothing more than trashtalking America's Hottest Prosecutor, while ensuring that those at the White House realize Rove's still playing ball with them?

As the other poster mentioned, plea agreements aren't offered to the innocent. I'd also like to observe that a pardon would be even bigger political suicide for *.

Julie
president for life of the PFEB
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RufusEarl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 03:52 PM
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6. Fitz
It may take him a little time, let's say another 2 1/2 years to bring anymore charges in the CIA leak case. Why do I say this, well keep in mind that the Justice Dept. is still in the control of this Admin.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 04:31 PM
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10. I believe that Fitzgerald has a special mandate for this investigation
that insulates him from direct Bush junta pressure. I think that was Tenet's parting shot at BushCo, to file the complaint on behalf of the CIA and help insure the independence of the prosecutor. We would not have an indictment against Scooter Libby, if that wasn't the case. Libby is a very powerful Bush junta operative.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 04:06 PM
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7. Fitzgerald is building a pyramid, like an organized crime case.
Fitzgerald starts with underlings as witnesses and as suspects to make the base of the pyramid. They give up their superiors. Then he makes the middle part of the pyramid. Finally, near the apex, he adds Scooter and Rove. Maybe that will be the final result, maybe they will roll on Cheney and Bush. We will see. Fitz is being extremely thorough because he wants to make sure his efforts are not wasted when the case gets to the jury. Friends describe Fitzgerald as a workaholic with no personal interests, but rather a driving obsession with finding the truth in his cases. That is not the kind of guy that Bushco. wants on their trail.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 04:11 PM
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8. why did they say Rove was "not the focus of the investigation"
If he isn't, who is, and how can we expect Rove indicted, if he is not the focus.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 04:31 PM
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9. Rove's defense lawyer insists he is not the focus.
I think the prosecutor is focusing on Rove and maybe others around him.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 05:09 PM
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11. It doesn't matter if Rove is the "focus" of the investigation (the main
perp or perps), or not. If he commits perjury and obstruction of justice, as a peripheral perp, or even just as a witness, he can and should be indicted. And prosecutors often use this power--the power of laws against lying to the FBI or to a grand jury--selectively, to squeeze the peripheral perps or witnesses for whatever truth they possess about the main perps, and to bust through coverups. I would guess that Fitzgerald realizes that Rove may have been used--was played, possibly by Libby on behalf of Cheney and others--as something of a fall guy in the outing of Plame. (He likely was willing, even eager, to do it--but not to be the fall guy for it.) The story was put out that it was Rovian revenge against Wilson for publishing his article on the false Niger nuke allegation against Iraq. A believable story, given Rove's reputation for dirty pool. This makes the outing look like a rash, over the top, political action, when in fact it may have had a much deeper and more serious origin, and it clearly involved more people. MOTIVE is something that Fitzgerald said he is looking for. He wants to know WHY this outing occurred, and he considers it a "matter of national security." Ergo, he is suspicious of the story of Rovian revenge.

I think that, if Fitzgerald is foiled in his quest for the motive and the main perps, it will be by Cheney suddenly admitting to ordering the Plame/Brewster-Jennings outing, and probably limiting his admitted motive to political revenge--thus keeping Bush, Rumsfeld and Rice and the rest of the junta out of it. And then, a number of things could happen (not in the interests of justice): Cheney could testify for Libby, saying he was under orders (thus maybe getting jury sympathy for Libby). Cheney could remain in office--with a slap on the wrist by Bush's "pod people" in Congress. (Cheney really doesn't give a !@#$ if his approval rating reaches zero--it's now about 18%. He could go to minus zero (!?), and his bribed, blackmailed, Diebold-dependent "pod people" still wouldn't act against him). Or he could resign, claiming health problems, and either delay legal proceedings indefinitely or get off with a Bush pardon. If he resigns, the Republicans could then install a new, fresh face as V-P, to be Diebolded into office in '08 (would be their intention).

I think the Fitzgerald prosecution is very serious, is by no means over, and will end in an attempted, orchestrated scenario, such as the above. Whether the Bush junta will be able to control events that much is an open question. (Even with Bush's buds at Diebold and ES&S counting all the votes with "trade secret," proprietary programming code, and virtually no audit/recount controls--and can easily hack a 5% to 10% advantage to Republicans--Republican candidates still have to get SOME real votes in order to get Diebolded into office. They may be looking at defeats EVEN with their "trade secret" code advantage. And with serious Bush and Bushite scandals growing like a mushroom cloud over the Republican Party, they may have to take more drastic measures than just Cheney's retirement, in order to retain any credibility with the American people.)
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