Woah, Rumsfeld on CNN live now

[nonconformist]

getting hammered with his own words by a man in the audience, Rummy is getting pissed!

[nonconformist]

1. Rumsfeld says he never said he knew where the WMD's were

Man in audience quotes him "I know where they are, etc"

[VolcanoJen]

2. This guy is GREAT... they just shut him up, of course.

A guy just asked, "Where are the WMD? You said you knew where they were, east, west, south of Baghdad. So where are they? Were you lying?"

They just shuffled him out of there. Unbelievable.

Now a guy just stood up and said, "What happened in your childhood that made you who you are? Help the audience, because you're a great man."

:wtf:

[redqueen]

6. Gannon? n/t

[nonconformist]

9. Did you notice that after that man quoted Rummy's words

And Rumsfeld was bungling around for a condescending answer, security must have grabbed that man because Rumsfeld said, "wait, let him stay for a minute"

:wtf:

[redqueen]

35. How can it be legal for them to throw people out

for asking questions?

:mad:

[magnolia]

3. OMG!

That was beautiful!

Unfortunately the rest of them are ass-kissing to the extreme to make up for his uncomfortable moment.

[w8liftinglady]

4. plus the woman they just carried away-people are finally rising up!!

This is the man who is responsible for ruining the lives of millions of humans-American and Iraqi.

[VolcanoJen]

5. CNN says that guy was Ray McGovern, 27 year CIA analyst

They just yanked him out of there. Young guy, military haircut.

:toast: Ray McGovern! :toast:

Edit: The guy they yanked out of there wasn't Ray McGovern, apparently... but McGovern is the one who asked the WMD Question.

[Beaverhausen]

7. He rocks!!!

Good for him!

[targetpractice]

12. 27 years at the CIA... Not 27 years old.

I just rewound TiVo to confirm. :-)

[VolcanoJen]

14. Thanks. :-)

The guy they just yanked out of there looked very young... who was he?

[targetpractice]

22. I didn't see that.

Looks like they let the guy sit back down... He was wearing a brown suit & glasses.

[Roxy66]

20. Hey, post it if you can...I missed it

[glitch]

13. Hear hear! second this.

DUers should buy this man a beer wherever he goes. Every city where there's a duer, there should be a beer waiting for him.

[BurtWorm]

17. Did he have a beard and glasses?

Ray McGovern is not exactly a young guy.

[VolcanoJen]

19. Yeh, I did get that wrong

CNN never showed Ray McGovern:



They did show a young man with a military haircut being yanked out by security goons shortly after McGovern's WMD question.

[eShirl]

36. didn't he testify at the hearing Conyers had to hold in the basement?

Or am I thinking of a different guy...

[Jack Rabbit]

38. Yes, that was Ray McGovern

McGovern has been quite vocal about how intelligence was manipulated prior to the war.

[w8liftinglady]

26. Ray's Bio

http://faculty.schreiner.edu/tomwells/ray_mcgovern_bio.htm

[w8liftinglady]

27. and an interview with Will Pitt

http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/062603B.shtml

[The Wielding Truth]

44. I am tearing up at the thought that these idiots are being seen as who

they are.

Save this country of free thinkers and honest stewards of justice and equality.

Defeat the selfish leaders who have lied to engorge themselves on our children's futures.

"Volunteers of America. Got the Revolution!"

[w8liftinglady]

45. Me,too-I am so proud of these people-real patriots

[madinmaryland]

46. Ray McGovern writes articals in Common Dreams quite often.

He's very critical of the * admin, and has written many excellent articals in regards to the military and cia.

[LSK]

48. Ray was a panelist on Conyers DSM hearing in the basement

[Jacobin]

8. Good news.

VietNam syndrome is starting.

People are facing up to these whackos even though our elected officials are not.

Good for the people.

[VolcanoJen]

10. Then there's the creepy brownshirt-people...

... the ones who hoot and holler so that a legitimate question cannot be asked. They yell and hoot over the voices of truth, and then another brownshirt stands up and hustles the voices of truth the hell outta there, lest their hero, WarPig Rumsfeld, hear a criticism.

:grr:

[rocktivity]

11. I call it Colbert-itis...

:evilgrin:
rocknation

[burythehatchet]

16. Col-Balls

:thumbsup:

[jsamuel]

18. it's catchy

[bdamomma]

15. these guys are not getting away from the truth.

that's it.

[vickitulsa]

21. Just caught it -- Rummy actually didn't LET them shut the questioner up

and usher him out, choosing to try to salvage the moment rather than opt out of it like Dubya would have in a heartbeat.

Doesn't mean I respect Rummy -- not one itsy bitty bit, I loathe the man and all he stands for and all he has done to harm America, Americans, and other people in our world.

What I enjoyed MOST about this wonderful drilling by the insistent questioner (sorry don't know who he is yet) was the way he had Rumsfeld stammering over his stammers!!

:woohoo: :bounce: :applause: :rofl:

I LOVE IT! IMO this is the way all these creeps in the Bu$h&Co Crime Cartel should have been questioned starting a long time ago. Like the huge drubbing Colbert delivered to Rummy's boss recently, this hammering of Rummy for all to see was simply exquisite.

More, I want MORE of this type of insistent, unrelenting questioning until they're all stammering themselves right into prison!

[magnolia]

24. Rummy...

...immediately made a snide remark. Something like "you're getting too much air time." I don't think he meant it or expected it when he told them not to take the guy away.

[Cha]

41. Like fucking rummy doesn't get

TOO MUCH AIR TIME!

[Marnieworld]

23. Where is this? Who is he speaking to?

I don't see how someone who asks a legitimate question would just be tossed. He quoted him and asked for an explanation about the veracity of that quote. How is that not appropriate? I just don't get it.

Rummy says we know where the WMD are. No WMD found. It's perfectly reasonable to ask why he said that then. Are we all supposed to just politely pretend that they didn't say this stuff because it embarasses them now? This is insane. How much longer can this go on?

[magnolia]

25. I think they said...

...Atlanta.

[DearAbby]

28. Any kind of truth to this bunch is not appropriate

Truth is this administration's KRYPTONITE...

[vickitulsa]

31. Not sure to what audience he was speaking, but I caught "Atlanta"

in a sign behind Rummy. I think CNN was showing the heading "Developing Story" or something like that in the "crawlspace" beneath the video feed. That's barely stopping short of calling the incident "Breaking News" -- but either of those terms IMO shows CNN is finally "getting it" at least a little bit and recognizes when something revealing the barenakedness of our leading criminals happens these days.

I have almost stopped watching the three "all news" channels -- a major statement in itself from this lifelong news junkie. But I was busy reading some good stuff on DU while waiting for a TV program to come on at 2:00 p.m., so I switched over to CNN and muted the sound, just in case some news appeared there worth checking out.

So I missed the very beginning of this hard questioning Rummy was getting, explains why I didn't realize the brownshirts did apparently hustle a younger man out as the older fella carried on bravely quoting Rummy to his own face and demanding to know if what he'd said were LIES or what?

When Rummy said, "Wait, let him stay a minute...," the guy took full advantage of that opportunity to add more to the quote of Rummy's own, disputing openly that asshole's refutation of the quote. The questioner said something like, "NO, you did say 'we know exactly where the WMDs are' -- you said they were 'north of Baghdad, and in Tikrit,'" I believe it was, and then he named one or two other locations, still clearly quoting Rummy himself.

I hope this incident gets more airplay later, for several reasons. To me, the highlight was Rummy's stuttering and stammering ... it just went on and on. He's always been such a wily fox, very good (much better than Dubya fer sure) at fielding hard questions on the rare occasions when he gets them. He usually manages to divert, set up straw men, throw out red herrings, and otherwise to evade giving an honest answer, so he doesn't normally stammer much.

BUT HE SURELY DID TODAY! If someone could just clip out that part of it, the last few words of the questioner, then Rummy stammering and searching for a good reply, then stammering some more ... and some more, that would speak worlds to anyone who ever thought he really did have all the answers.

-- And then to have that toady questioner next in line stand up and call Rummy "a great man," and ask him to "help us" and tell us about his childhood and what made him the great man he was ... sure was clear what a suck-up reaction THAT was!

No clothes, no clothes, they all got just no clothes at all.... heh heh heh

[Marnieworld]

33. If we have to have a naked government

Can't we get some hotter people?

[vickitulsa]

51. Ain't that the freakin' truth!?

:evilgrin:

[lonestarnot]

29. damn I wish I could have seen this.

[nonconformist]

30. Hopefully someone will get a clip up

It was great.

[vickitulsa]

32. I hope so ... it was fantastic and I want to see it again.

I have no Tivo and no DVD recorder, and my VCR takes too long to get going if it's not already set up and ready and the remote in hand.

Second time in about a week I've reeelly wished I had Tivo! Can't afford it, but I'm developing Tivo envy of those who have it. ;)

[lonestarnot]

42. waiting.

[nonconformist]

47. CLIP IS UP!! -->>>>>>>>>>>>

http://www.rawstory.com/showarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fthinkprogress.org%2F2006%2F05%2F04%2Frumsfeld-called-out%2F

[Chimichurri]

49. thank you!!!

Rumsfeld just articulated culpability by LYING and throwing out red herrings. Thank you, Mr. McGovern!!
Well done, Sir!

[Alamom]

34. CNN running Mcgovern question again, now. n/t

[w8liftinglady]

40. showing it now

[mod mom]

37. Ed Schultz just covered this with sound bites.

[Jack Rabbit]

39. "We know where they are . . ."

"They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat."

Rumsfeld said it on This Week with George Stephanopolus on March 30, 2003.

If he needs to refresh his memory, he can find the transcript on the DoD website.

[Cha]

43. This is another example

of why what Colbert said at the whcd was so important..they couldn't really get the hook with him.

[happydreams]

50. This is hot! K&R. Colbert

effect is spreading...bwaaaaaaaah! :bounce:

[Gabi Hayes]

52. on CNN now

[w8liftinglady]

53. wow-CNN keeps playing the whole clip over and over again

[w8liftinglady]

54. CNN factchecked and confirmed!