Rummy grilled by protestors, heckled. etc. cnn now on Wolf

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1. they showed a short clip of this happening but will have more.

[w8liftinglady]

2. I am SO proud of these people.This is where it starts,folks

[rocktivity]

8. This is where it starts, and I've got a name for it--Colbert-itis!

:rofl:
rocknation

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11. that will do.

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9. I saw a quick clip of someine in audiance with a sign.

[w8liftinglady]

13. "Guilty Of War Crimes"

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28. thanks.

[gratuitous]

3. Geez, kill a few thousand, waste a few hundred billion

And everybody gets all honked off. Mercy me!

[Mabus]

4. Check out Catwoman's post - link to video

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1102825

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5. but first is talking of how passed over 14 B. more than Bush wanted (veto

threatened.

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6. said they would go back to see what Rummy said before the war-so I

I they will find some old video. I hope so

[NoAmericanTaliban]

7. CNN website has news article about it - happend in Atlanta, GA

Wish I could have been there.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/05/04/rumsfeld.ap/index.html

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10. Thanks. I hate it when they give teasers!

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12. now some chat about immigaration debates!

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14. " Rumsfeld strategy speech heckled" is the headline Thanks

Rumsfeld strategy speech heckled
Defense secretary cites importance of non-traditional allies

Thursday, May 4, 2006; Posted: 4:05 p.m. EDT (20:05 GMT)

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

15. On Air America Radio news they reported that Ray McGovern asked Rumsfeld

..why did you lie about WMDs????

McGovern rocks!!!!!

:applause:

[LSK]

29. AAR just played it again

wow!

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

37. CNN just covered it (as I understand, they covered it earlier) and didn't

name Ray McGovern. Is it possible that they don't have a clue to who McGovern is? Only the man who reported to Papa Bush every day when Papa Bush was VP, and only the man who received a medal from Papa Bush upon his (McGovern's) retirement.

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16. now talking of Rummy

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17. showed clip of taking out the protestors

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18. showing McGovern asking the question

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19. Wolf calls him the 'questioner"

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20. showed quote where Rummy says know where they are.

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24. The R. quest says 'rummy is who he is" and Jr. trusts him.

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25. "that will get lots of play" says Rummy to McCovern

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27. I would have loved to have been there!!

[cliss]

35. Thanks for the play-by-play updates.

They're great for us who don't have TV, and it's very appreciated. Thankx also to W8liftingLady for awesome posts.

[Disturbed]

22. "Rumsfeld Shouldn't be Fired, He Should be Indicted."

Rumsfeld Shouldn't be Fired, He Should be Indicted
by Matthew Rothschild

“Secretary Rumsfeld has publicly admitted that . . . he ordered an Iraqi national held in Camp Cropper, a high security detention center in Iraq, to be kept off the prison’s rolls and not presented to the International Committee of the Red Cross,” the report noted. The Geneva Conventions require countries to grant the Red Cross access to all detainees. “

http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0418-24.htm

Recently it has been found out that even more detainees were "ghost detainees". The fact that Rumsfeld has not been charged speaks volumes. If Congress wishes to garner any respect they should move forward with Rep. Rangle's Impeachment Declaration of Rumsfeld.

The US, Govt., Congress, and the Justice Dept no longer abide by the Geneva Convention or the Constitution of the USA.

[Dr Fate]

21. Ray has some mighty big Colberts- I hope elected DEMs catch the fever.

I hope & pray for it, daily.

[w8liftinglady]

23. that is an awesome metaphor-"colberts"

[cliss]

36. Me too, Dr. Fate.

So do I.

[caledesi]

26. Video: www.rawstory.com.........this is a MUST-SEE! nt

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30. well, do, Wolfe showed a few seconds.--thanks.

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31. JC Watts is the Right quest. yuk

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32. Begela saying the Dems are not afraid of Bush anymore--they want this

fight. judicial nomination.

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

33. to ray mcgovern - May the 4th be with you

[magellan]

34. Oh yes, Wolf. The reason no one trusts Bush** and his cabal is because

...they haven't been out setting the record straight like this before. :eyes: And Begala nods? Has he become a bobble-head for the Right?

[Mabus]

38. About Begala

He only comes to life when it comes to the Clintons. Otherwise he doesn't put up much of a fight.

[magellan]

39. I had no idea

He used to be pretty passionate on Crossfire, but he looked like Wolf's whipping boy today. Thanks for the insight.

[Mabus]

40. Well, it is how I view him

When he and Carville first started Crossfire I was excited as anyone. I remember the days when Carville would talk about mediawhoresonline.com and both he and Begala seemed on fire. It was my perception that after a while their passionate defense of the Democratic party and our leaders declined. I'll give you an example from mediamatters.org that is actually criticizing Novak over the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth ads:

PAUL BEGALA (co-host): It was, and it was too lame. But let's focus, as Vic does, on the first ad. The subsequent ads were about Kerry's testimony on the Vietnam war, perfectly fair to criticize him for. I couldn't argue with them. The first ad suggested he didn't earn his medals. Now isn't that outrageous and false?

BAY BUCHANAN: No, it is not.

BEGALA: You don't think John Kerry earned his medals, bleeding for our country in Vietnam?

BUCHANAN: I think there's still an outstanding question on that.

BEGALA: Oh my word. That's beyond the pale, Bay. That's disappointing

(commentary from mediamatters.org)While Begala stated that Kerry's 1971 Senate testimony in opposition to the Vietnam War was a fair subject for criticism, Media Matters has repeatedly noted that the ads addressing that testimony did in fact distort Kerry's statements. While Swift Boat Vets alleged that Kerry accused his fellow Vietnam soldiers of atrocities, his actual testimony recounted the stories of other Vietnam veterans who came home and related their personal experiences in what was known as the Winter Soldier Investigation. http://mediamatters.org/items/200501040005

I was more than disappointed that Begala didn't defend Kerry's testimony on the Vietnam War as portrayed in the commercials. The SBVT distorted Kerry's testimony but Begala let it slide.

edited to take out unintentional smilie.