Lou Dobbs JUST SAID Mexico Is The #1 SUPPLIER of METH In The U.S.

[matcom]

:eyes:

he rattled off a long list of drugs and the last one on his list was METH

METH from Mexico?

try again Lou. try WALGREENS. try CVS. try the idiot with the lab in his double-wide.

HEY LOU! TRY THE PHARMACEUTICAL INDUSTRY

fucking idiot.

[northamericancitizen]

1. Well said: fucking idiot. More hatred against those mexicans.

[Ignacio Upton]

2. Cocaine maybe, but meth?

Maybe he's just talking about Mexico's proportion in meth that is imported, but meth can be made a lot more easily than importing some.

[lvx35]

3. The list must be "of all foreign sources of meth"

but that's misleading as hell.

[Ezlivin]

4. Yeah, I see freight cars spilling over with the stuff as it heads north

The rail yard in Fort Worth looks like it has been snowed on.

:sarcasm:

[debbierlus]

5. That may be true.

That they are the no 1. supplier, but he should have put in a qualifier that the majority of people who use it will make it themselves out of (what is it? robitussin or Sudafed?)

[karlrschneider]

8. I wouldn't even believe that. It's WAY cheaper to make than import.

And a hell of a lot 'safer'...

[karlrschneider]

6. There are literally dozens of "meth labs" within 10 miles of our

house. And we don't live anywhere near Mexico.
:eyes:

[hippiechick]

7. Apparently Lou's never been to Indiana ...

:smoke: Shit's being cooked up all over the place here.

[mtnester]

13. Southern Ohio is law unto itself as far as mobile meth labs

sheesh, they run down the road and steal part of the stuff from Farmer Bob, then buy the rest of the stuff at Walmart then cook it up in a truck in the parking lot.

This is more spin to make Mexicans look bad. Saw this happen to the gays too back in 04...same ole swiftboating technique

[jdelullo]

9. Lou Dobbs = stupid

I live in one of the biggest meth areas of the country and I 100% guarentee none of it comes from Mexico.

[nadinbrzezinski]

10. THey are afraid tha legalized drugs in Mexico

will finally show to stupid Muricans how false the war on drugs is

[TheFarseer]

11. You can easily demonize Mexico and stick to the facts

you don't need to say something that off the wall stupid to get your point across that you hate Mexico. Actually, white guys in rural rental houses are most responsible for meth.

[matcom]

12. Dobbs is a racist fuck

i've been saying it for months and people slam me for it.

too bad. i'm compiling a list as long as my arm

[jonnyblitz]

27. there was a Lou Dobbs appreciation thread on here recently

I thought i had logged onto Free Republic by mistake.

lots of fucking reactionary dumbasses posting on DU lately..

I am waiting for the Pat Buchanan appreciation thread...

[pinto]

14. To be fair, I think Mexican "middlemen" are buying and selling

the pharmaceutical components from the handful of Asian/Indian companies that make the stuff for allergy meds.

I agree, though, the lax selling practices of those pharmaceuticals is the key to supply.

[napi21]

15. I realize I am really stupid when it comes to most drugs, so

how do you know there are lots of meth labs within XX miles of your house? I admit, there could probably be one next door to me and I wouldn't know it.

[karlrschneider]

19. Your reply went back to the OP but it -looks- like you meant to answer

my post...?

They 'bust' several a week, and we can smell them on calm nights. If you know what odors are associated, you can detect them by driving around slowly on a calm night. They are very distinctive.

[nadinbrzezinski]

22. THose are the best ones, the ones that are not obvoous

but it is actually fairly easy....

There is a particular smell, as well as jugs in the trash that look like they have really old curded milk, part of the process.

Oh and if you happen to find one... I hate to say it, call the cops. Why? the chemicals used to make Meth are truly explosive, as in very explosive, and a hazard to you... Fires and explosions that include Meth houses are truly hated by fire... for they are full of wonderful :sarcasm: surprises to keep everybdoy on their toes

[napi21]

24. Thanks for the explaination. I have no idea what it smells like, so

I guess I still wouldn't recognize any.

It took me a long time to recognize what pot smelled like, and I grew up in the 60's! Yea, I know now, but to this day, I never tried it myself. Just never had any desire.

[nadinbrzezinski]

25. You also must live in a relatively

drug free neighborhood. So do I... but if you go to the Inner City, you will be able to recognize the smell fairly fast

[Phx_Dem]

16. He is probably right

It's too dificult to obtain large amounts of the requires chemicals to make meth so there has been a huge increase in production of meth in Mexico since 2002.

....

Illegal methamphetamine production occurs in countries throughout the world; however, only methamphetamine produced in the United States, Mexico and, to a lesser extent, Southeast Asia is available in any significant quantity in the United States. There are no conclusive worldwide methamphetamine production estimates, nor are there conclusive production estimates for the three principal methamphetamine source areas that supply U.S. drug markets. Nevertheless, laboratory seizure data suggest expanded domestic methamphetamine production, while law enforcement reporting and limited laboratory seizure data indicate a significant increase in methamphetamine production in Mexico.

....

Mexico is the principal source of foreign-produced methamphetamine available in the United States. There are no conclusive estimates as to the amount of methamphetamine produced in Mexico; however, an interagency working group estimated that the amount of Mexico-produced methamphetamine seized in the United States was 0.97 metric ton in 2001 and 1.1 metric tons in 2002, the most recent year for which such data are available. Law enforcement reporting indicates that methamphetamine production in Mexico is considerable, and there is wide consensus among law enforcement agencies that production in Mexico has increased significantly since 2002, yet few data are available to confirm this assertion other than an apparent increase in methamphetamine seizures at or between land POEs along the Southwest Border (see Transportation section). According to DEA, most methamphetamine production in Mexico occurs in the southwestern states of Colima, Michoacán, Jalisco, and Guerrero and in the northern states of Baja California and Sonora. The hydriodic acid/red phosphorus method is the primary method of production in Mexico; however, the P2P method is also commonly used.

http://www.usdoj.gov/ndic/pubs11/12620/meth.htm

[InternalDialogue]

17. Frontline did a show on this earlier in 2006.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/meth/

It was based on a series in the Oregonian, and it dealt with some of the myths and misinformation about meth. One of them addressed the difference in supply and purity of home labs versus imported drugs from cartels. I don't deny the problem that home labs create, but I think the raw numbers are correct with respect to Mexico. That said, it's not a "Mexican" problem, but rather an issue of the drug cartels' access to the ingredients, which often come direct from pharmaceutical companies at wholesale prices.

Hidden powerhouses underlie meth's ugly spread
Inside a superlab
Home meth lab vs. superlab
Sunday, October 03, 2004
STEVE SUO

FRESNO, Calif. A cross the West and Great Plains, small-town residents blame the arrival of meth abuse in their communities on the influx of local meth labs.

They are mistaken.

The reality is that 80 percent of meth comes from Mexican drug cartels operating here, in the rural expanses of Central and Southern California. According to the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration, only 20 percent of the supply is made by local users themselves.

A decade ago, the cartels in California pioneered a technique for industrial-scale production of meth that police dubbed the "superlab."

Built with commercial-grade lab equipment and fueled by hundreds of pounds of chemicals, a single superlab can churn out 100,000 or even 1 million doses of meth in a two-day production run. A typical "user" meth lab can make a maximum of 280 doses at a time.

http://www.oregonlive.com/special/oregonian/meth/stories/index.ssf?/oregonian/meth/1003_superlab.html

[Warpy]

18. Lou Dobbs is fulla shit

Meth is a bathtub drug, meaning it can easily be made in an apartment, a motel room, a camper shell on the back of a truck. All you need are the reagents and some very basic chemistry equipment.

There is no reason in the world to risk a border crossing with a load of meth. It's made right here in a neighborhood close to you. If you're anywhere in flyover country, it may be your next door neighbor cooking it up and that's why you keep smelling acetone on the breeze.

What an idiot. Somebody needs to explain a few things to him.

[karlrschneider]

23. Exactly. It's a "coal to Newcastle" thing.

:eyes:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

20. Of course he did.

He already said they're spreading disease.

Next he'll be saying they're controlling Hollywood and they're after our white wemmin.

[Boo Boo]

21. He's correct. Used to just be a domestic thing, but now it's easier to get

the key ingredient in Mexico, and the biker gangs have been replaced by Mexican drug cartels as the major suppliers. You can go down to Mexico and buy as much pseudoephedrine as you want without showing ID, and with no record of the transaction.

It's true, however, that no matter whether the drug is coming from Mexico or California the Pharmaceutical industry makes big money off the Meth business.

[hiley]

26. Meth Labs Decreasing, But Ice Is Taking Over

Meth Labs Decreasing, But Ice Is Taking Over

By Dale DeWoody
Monday, April 10, 2006 8:49 AM CDT
TIMES RECORD • [e-mail]

The number of methamphetamine labs in the area has decreased dramatically over the past few years, but the decline has little to do with legislation that went into effect last year, officials said.

In March 2005, Arkansas passed Act 256, which removed medications containing pseudoephedrine, a key ingredient in meth, from store shelves. But the decline started earlier.

“Our lab numbers had already dropped over 50 percent a year before the law was passed,” said Sgt. George Lawson, narcotics officer for the Fort Smith Police Department.In 2003 there were 70 meth labs investigated by the Fort Smith police, according to records. The number dropped to 32 labs in 2004, and to just seven labs in 2005.Lawson said the reason for the decrease in meth labs is the increase in crystal meth, or “ice,” that is being brought in from other areas.

Investigator Lanny Reese of the 12th/21st Judicial Drug Task Force agrees.“The meth labs are being shut down because of the import of ice from Mexico,” he said.

The area is being flooded with the purer form of crystallized meth, made in super labs in Mexico and states like California, Texas, New Mexico and Arizona, said investigator Anthony Sacco with the drug task force.
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