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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 07:52 PM
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I NOMINATE MCGOVERN as NEW DU HERO replacing Colbert!!
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/05/04.html#a8164

Colbert made me laugh, but this makes me smile. Does that make sense?
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 07:53 PM
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1. Anyone got the vid where it shows the goon handle him and him say...
Edited on Thu May-04-06 07:57 PM by Harper_is_Bush
"this is America?"

??
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 08:07 PM
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9. Video is here and he is now a TIPPING POINT PATRIOT
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 08:29 PM
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14. Good vid source. Doesn't show McGovern being accosted though...?
Want to watch that one again...think I only saw it on CNN though.
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 07:53 PM
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2. We need a DU Hall of Fame
They both should be so honored.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 07:57 PM
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3. Yes, NOT replace, but instead ADD to--such as Cindy S. Helen. ect ect.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 08:05 PM
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7. I second the motion- add John Conyers too. n/t
n/t
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 08:35 PM
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18. Yes yes yes! Fabulous idea! DU Hall of Fame! Whooodamnwhoo!
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 08:08 PM
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11. There can be only one hero at a time.
Colbert can go on the hero shelf now! :)
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 08:10 AM
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48. Why?
:shrug:
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magnolia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 08:03 AM
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46. Exactly....
...let's not forget Helen Thomas, Feingold, etc. The list is getting longer and longer. The truth is breaking out all over! We need a virtual Mt. Rushmore of democratic heroes! It would span miles and miles....
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 07:59 PM
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4. You mean for "Outing Rummy?" n/t
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 08:03 PM
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5. Are Rummy & KKKarl an item? I thought KKKarl loves Stephen...?
:rofl:
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 08:04 PM
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6. Absolutely! That took bigger balls than roasting Bush
What Colbert did was good, but it was almost too easy.

Rummy is a verbal gymnast, and this ex-CIA officer took him to the well.

And the fact that he's ex-CIA with 27 years on the job makes it even more devastating.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 08:06 PM
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8. He was terrific. Maybe elected DEMS will get jealous if we keep this up...
...and seek some adoration of their own...
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 08:07 PM
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10. watched it on wolfie and his edited version was still good.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 08:08 PM
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12. He's ALREADY a DU HERO!!!
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 09:42 PM
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38. Bingo! McGovern has been a hero of mine for almost the last 4 years! nt
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Terran1212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 08:10 PM
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13. I think if Colbert went at Rummy in non-satire mode
Rummy would be led away crying.

Colbert is an extremely intelligent man. If he ever did non-satire writing or speaking I'm sure he would rile huge audiences.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 08:31 PM
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15. LOL @ your thread title
Sadly, so true. Although Colbert's fifteen minutes of herodom aren't up yet. They will be in a couple of weeks when he makes a joke DU thinks is un-PC/offensive/right-wing.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 08:57 PM
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29. Like making a joke about John Kerry?
Maybe for some. Things change, that doesn't make it a flip-flop.

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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 09:19 PM
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33. I personally wouldn't find that funny
Edited on Thu May-04-06 09:19 PM by WildEyedLiberal
But then again, I haven't idol-worshipped Colbert, either. And if he did make a derogatory Kerry joke, as much as I would hate it, I wouldn't throw Colbert under the bus for it. I'd be pissed at his joke, but I'd get over it eventually, because the vast majority of his catalogue is terrific.

My comment was directed at the people who are constantly in search of a new, shiny hero, who absolutely idolize and drool over someone for about two weeks until a newer, shinier hero comes along and/or the old hero does something to piss them off, in which case they are thrown aside and forgotten. You could get whiplash from the groupthink around here sometimes.
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 07:52 AM
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45. WildEyedLiberal For President!!!!1 He Has Betrayed Us All!!11!
Whiplash indeed. DU's heroes aren't just pumped up beyond reason and then thrown aside, but those who aren't 100% "pure" are treated to full-throated howls of outrage as if they had just been spotted by the pod people. It's so predictable you could set your watch by it.

When I saw the video on the Rumsfeld appearance, I joked that the board would explode in two warring factions: the "Former-CIA-Guy for President!" bunch against the "Heavyset-Old-Woman-Dragged-Out-for-Protesting for President!" camp.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 02:08 PM
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49. LOL - so true
Agree with everything you said, especially the demonization of anyone who, for example, has ever been in the presence of George W. Bush and didn't spit on him, set him on fire, or tell him to fuck himself.

"A real patriot would have kicked him in the balls!!!111"

Yeah, a "real patriot" with an IQ of 56 who has a death wish. :eyes:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 08:34 PM
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16. Oh NO YOU DON'T! No replac'n Colbert! Let's have two, like in me & DU!
:evilgrin:
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titoresque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 08:37 PM
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19. I'm with you!
Not letting go so soon!!!!!
havent seen you for too long, a cyber hug is in order! :hug:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 08:46 PM
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21. titoresque!
:hug: You've got to change that fucking name! I can never type it right! LOL Painting next weekend. Are you going to join us? Sat @ 8 am
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Lusted4 Donating Member (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 08:35 PM
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17. We could do Hero / Vice Hero n/t
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 08:53 PM
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27. Sounds good, Colbert is "vice" hero! nt
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 08:42 PM
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20. In a few days, there will be somebody else
. . . and then somebody a few days after that.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 08:47 PM
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22. DU Hall of FAME! The only answer!
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 08:49 PM
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24. We should pose this question: What are YOU doing to oust the Bush junta?
Every little bit helps. Speaking truth to power, as Colbert did Saturday night and McGovern did today, is the theme of the moment.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 08:50 PM
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25. ewww yeah sounds like an excellent plan! Pose the question Jack!
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Notoverit Donating Member (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 09:01 PM
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31. .There better be! One every day! Still won't dump the old ones.
Attention deficit disorders is for birds.
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 08:49 PM
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23. We ain't got room for TWO?
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 09:41 PM
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37. Nope. McGovern takes the crown.
Colbert can take a place of honor on the hero mantle with the rest (Murtha....Richard Clarke....Joe Wilson & wife....KO....Thomas.....etc)

McGovern deserves the podium now.
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 10:15 PM
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41. You can't have two #1 heros. Sorry, I should have specified #1 before.
:)
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 08:53 PM
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26. It reminds me of "Turk 182"
"Who lied? Who died?"

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090217/

(Actually, Robert Culp even faintly resembles Rummy!)
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 08:56 PM
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28. Hail them both! All heroes welcome! No replacement!
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Notoverit Donating Member (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 08:59 PM
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30. No replacement! Two heroes. Why diss my man Colbert?
I smiled both times. Truth makes me happy. No dumping my heroes so fast.
I can hold 2 at a time in my little brain.
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 09:01 PM
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32. Ok, I admit it
Colbert is a comedien, McGovern is a 27 year vet of the CIA.

There's good reason this is making the news and Colbert didn't.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 09:25 PM
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35. Colbert gave it to W, McGovern only to Rummy
We could go on forever - but what's the point?
Truth tellers should all be cherished.
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 09:32 PM
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36. W is an easy target, AND he was expected just to sit there.
Rummy was actively defending and arguing, and McGovern kicked his ass. Period!
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 07:29 AM
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42. Colbert slayed for 20 minutes, Colbert is NOT CIA, Colbert nailed
the press as well ...
My point was that competition is meaningless - truth-tellers are heroes.
But if you make me chose between a comedian and a CIA guy, I'll go for the comedian ecery time. :shrug:
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 09:23 PM
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34. "THIS IS AMERICA?!?"
That's what he said when the security goon tried to muscle him out.

Can't find the vid of that part....think I saw it on CNN. It's when Rummy says "oh no, let him stay for a second" like the superior fascist POS he is.
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KyuzoGator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 09:44 PM
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39. What we need is a new hero to step forward every day. nt
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 09:52 PM
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40. That's us
:hi:
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 07:32 AM
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43. Colbert is the first person to stand
up to this administration and only 10 feet from the President, he let him have it both barrels... Ray McGovern is a trail blazer who is now forging the way for others to stand up and call this administration on their activities every chance they get....

Both are Heroes, Colbert for being the balliest, McGovern for blazing the trail....
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 07:36 AM
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44. Why must we "replace" a hero with another one? Odd. The more heros the
merrier! Conyers, Colbert, McGoven, Russ Feingold, Barbara Boxer, Helen Thomas etc etc.. :)
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 08:09 AM
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47. You'd Like COlbert to Go Away
wouldn't you....? Sorry... he won't!
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 02:19 PM
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50. "Let him stay."
Think about that remark for a few seconds.
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 11:53 PM
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51. In the words of an ignorant hit and run poster I ran into here once...
buzz off.

I don't care what Colbert does. I just think people who think that's more significant than a serious and truely brave confrontation of the administration are missing something.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 11:56 PM
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52. I heard McGovern is a Republican
If that's true I admire him all the more and only wish to know -- where are others like him?
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Vadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 12:13 AM
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53. I agree! I saw Ray's confrontation with Rummy and it was sweet...
I really think that people like Ray McGovern and Sybil Edmonds will be the saviors of our democracy, because they are the whilstleblowers about the fascists we now have in power and will be the catalysts that will bring them down!

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