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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 04:38 PM
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Lieberman would run as an Independent if he lost primary
Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman said Tuesday he is ready to fight to retain his seat in the Senate even if it means running an independent campaign.

Political observers, however, say it's unlikely it'll ever get to that point...

http://www.rep-am.com/story.php?id=1349
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 04:40 PM
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1. If Joe can't win, he'd prefer a Republican. Not surprising.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 04:41 PM
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3. Actually he would probably win as an Independent
but still it is very telling.
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 04:42 PM
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6. no, I believe he would split off way more Democratic votes than Republican
and essentially be a Nader x 100 provided the Dem and GOP candidates weren't caught in any scandals.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 04:47 PM
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11. maybe, but I doubt he will lose the primary either.
but time will tell.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 08:39 PM
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21. He probably won't lose the primary. Name recognition plays in his favor
Edited on Wed Jan-11-06 08:41 PM by Selatius
And he's probably got a lot of money to burn compared to any newcomer. Remember that our election system is not completely subsidized. Much of it is run on private cash. As a result, the poor have a disadvantage in running against the rich. It's not impossible to beat somebody like Lieberman, but the reality says it's terribly difficult. It's a shame that ability to raise money is considered as important if not more so than one's message in our system. You'd think one's message should count exclusively.

Economic populism combined with grassroots campaigning are, in my mind, the only way that offers even a chance of overcoming Lieberman's advantages. If Bernie Sanders can do it as an independent, then it can also be done as a Democrat in the primary, but I'd say it's too late to start now at this point in the game. Somebody should've been using this avenue at least a year earlier to build a base of support to at least wage war against Lieberman's seat.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 04:41 PM
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2. I don't think it will get that far either
Edited on Wed Jan-11-06 04:43 PM by bryant69
Actualy what would be most problematic would be if the Dems too back the senate but it was very tight; he would wield an undue amount of power based on threats to go Independent (or Republican) and hand power back to the Republicans.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 04:41 PM
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4. These people really think they own ...
those seats in the government. They should give someone else a chance. I know that is to good to be true because they don't really care about the job its about power and money.
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Tummler Donating Member (836 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 04:42 PM
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5. So Joe is loyal to his own power, not the Democratic Party
It's good to have this confirmed from the horse's mouth.
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tatertop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 04:44 PM
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8. Good ol' true-to-form jo
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 08:22 PM
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17. Seems like it
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 04:43 PM
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7. That's fine with me! He's just dilute the Pug vote!
I can't see any Dems following him, but I can see some moderate Pubs voting for him INSTEAD of the Pug candidate. Go Joe!
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 04:45 PM
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9. Dave Letterman is from CT.. He would be a better senator than JoeMentum
:)
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 04:46 PM
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10. Sounds like his little meeting with Jim Dean didn't PAN OUT!
I have NEVER used this term before, but ...

HE IS A DOUCHEBAG!

Sounds like he is vulnerable to a dem primary challenge.
Free money from ME to any good progressive dem who steps up to the plate!
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 04:48 PM
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12. Let's hope he has the opportunity to do just that.
Be gone damned JoeMentum.
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 05:08 PM
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13. Funny...
...because wasn't Lieberman and his DLC cronies the ones that made a big stink and tried to get Dean to sign a "loyalty oath" during the primaries promising that he wouldn't run as an Independent? Gee, Lieberman, a hypocrite and self-serving smug little shit, how shocking.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 08:21 PM
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15. Excellent point
Yes Joe was one of those who spread the lie that Dean would run as an indy if he didn't get the nomination--and now look--Dean is heading the DNC and giving hell to Bush while Joe is talking about running as an Independent and kissing Bush on the cheek.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 08:23 PM
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19. Oh yes!
I think I remember reading something about that. I wasn't into politics until a little while before the November election in 2004. That should be spread far and wide.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 08:18 PM
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14. Poll was released today...
75% of Connecticut REPUBLICANS want Joementum

vs. just 59% of DEMOCRATS!

Come On, Progressives, someone should give this bushlicker a run for OUR money!

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/connecticut/ny-bc-ct--poll-lieberman0111jan11,0,7142373.story?coll=ny-region-apconnecticut
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 08:22 PM
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16. Just proves that he's not in the for the citizens of CT. n-t
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 08:22 PM
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18. Joe's primary opponent should advertise on DU for campaign donations .
Edited on Wed Jan-11-06 08:23 PM by oasis
He'll get a ton of cash.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 08:27 PM
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20. There is ONE way to beat Lieberman in the primary:
You'd need a Bernie Sanders-type progressive using grassroots methods to beat Lieberman's name recognition as well as his big warchest in the Democratic primary. It's the only way, but it's a long-shot.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 09:21 PM
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22. It won't
He'll be running again. And he'll win again.

I just wish he'd listen a bit more. And quit wishing to be liked by despicable men like Bush. The fawning is nauseating.
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