Releasing al-Zarqawi outtakes video is huge mistake.

[Jara sang]

From a strategic point of view it doesn't make much sense. The video humanizes al-Zarqawi whom this administration has labeled a terrorist. Showing him as flawed and not "always" preaching death to the "Great Satan" gives the man a human quality and thus will make it harder for those engaged in trying to kill him.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/05/04/iraq.al.zarqawi/index.html

[ECH1969]

1. The US military wanted to get back at him

after releasing his video last week sticking his finger in their eye.

I don't think Americans are paying enough attention to even know what is going on.

If the average American was asked would they even know who Zarqawi or Bin Laden is?

[raysr]

3. I think it's all fake.

[NNN0LHI]

4. I think it is all a big fake too n/t

[Jara sang]

5. I tend to agree.

Bin Laden is Goldstein

[Viva_La_Revolution]

2. what? our big bad troops can't find this guy

who can't even figure out how to get his gun to fire?

good move Rummy! :rofl:

[radfringe]

6. as my partner quipped...

With waving arms and rolling eyes "we spent how many "brazillion dollars" to lock up a Howdy-Doody that can't even fire a weapon?"

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

7. My take on this. Zarqawi was reported killed at the start of the war.

Not only that, if Zarqawi is really alive, he has an artificial leg (look it up). Did the person in the video look like he had an artificial leg?

The video was created...(wag the dog), of someone acting as Zarqawi. The outtake was released by someone with a conscience to expose the video as being a fraud.

Zarqawi=Emmanuel Goldstein... terra terra terra

[Disturbed]

8. Zarqawi beheaded Nick Berg.

So said Anderson Cooper. Many RWingers have also said this. Why did Zarqawi cover his face in that video? His face was all over world wide TV and print before that. Why would he not want his face shown then?

[ima_sinnic]

9. good questions. that video was a total fake. (nt)

[dogday]

21. Why were some of the terrorist wearing rings?

That is against muslim religion.... There are many questions about that tape....

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

24. I believe there is also a photo of "Bin Laden" wearing a gold ring.

http://www.911myths.com/html/bin_ladin_and_the_ring.html

[Roland99]

23. I still think the US was behind that to distract from Abu Ghraib

[leftchick]

29. because it wasn't him?

and it was probably white westerners who did the execution?

[alcibiades_mystery]

12. You believe some sources and not others

You believe the sources that say he was killed, and the sources that say he has an artificial leg. On what basis? Only because you want to believe those, and not the others. It's pretty weak. Why give these sources more credibility?

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

13. Zarqawi was in the hospital in Baghdad to get his artificial leg. That is

what Ray McGovern was referring to yesterday when he confronted Rumsfeld.

Here is one report about Zarqawi....from MSNBC

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4446084

Iraq militants claim al-Zarqawi is dead
Al Qaida-linked extremist suspected of planning attacks


Updated: 6:31 a.m. ET March 4, 2004

BAGHDAD, Iraq - A Jordanian extremist suspected of bloody suicide attacks in Iraq was killed some time ago in U.S. bombing and a letter outlining plans for fomenting sectarian war is a forgery, a statement allegedly from an insurgent group west of the capital said.

Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was killed in the Sulaimaniyah mountains of northern Iraq “during the American bombing there,” according to a statement circulated in Fallujah this week and signed by the “Leadership of the Allahu Akbar Mujahedeen.”


------------------------snip-------------


The statement did not say when al-Zarqawi was supposedly killed, but U.S. jets bombed strongholds of the extremist Ansar al-Islam in the north last April as Saddam Hussein’s regime was collapsing.

It said al-Zarqawi was unable to escape the bombing because of his artificial leg.

Before the Iraq conflict began last March, U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell said al-Zarqawi received hospital treatment in Baghdad after fleeing Afghanistan. U.S. intelligence sources said he apparently was fitted with an artificial leg.

[alcibiades_mystery]

16. Oh, so now you trust US intelligence sources?

LOL. When they say what you want to hear it is fact. I see how that works.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

19. Even they insurgents who claimed Zarqawi was dead said he couldn't get

away because of his artificial leg.

[alcibiades_mystery]

25. So they were right about the leg, but wrong about him being dead?

Which is it?

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

26. Excuse me. Let's revisit my first post. I said I believed him to be dead

but if not, there is still the issue of the artificial leg. I believe I was clear on that.

Here is the link the my original post.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1106847&mesg_id=1107144

From my post.

My take on this. Zarqawi was reported killed at the start of the war.

Not only that, if Zarqawi is really alive, he has an artificial leg (look it up). Did the person in the video look like he had an artificial leg?

I don't know what your problem is with this.

[alcibiades_mystery]

27. It's quite simple

You pick and choose the versions of Zarqawi that you want to, but you really don't know fuck all about it.

[Junkdrawer]

20. The reporters seemed to me to be trying too hard to explain WHY...

the military released the outtakes. Perhaps they knew someone else got hold of them and they were trying to preempt their release? :shrug:

[leftchick]

10. Zarqawi is a myth

that just keeps on giving thanks to the pentagon propaganda machine. They even admitted a few weeks ago they lied about Zarqawi.

[bklyncowgirl]

11. Why is it that no one ever saw Zarqawi's face before these new videos?

First we get the video with a (I must say) very buff, very scary Zarqawi firing a machine gun and talking Jihad. OOOOhh look at that guy's forearms that's one macho terrorist. Scary Scary.

Shortly afterwards they release a "blooper" reel showing outtakes from that self same video which turns the very scary Zarqawi in tennis shoes showing a rather surprising lack of familiarity with his automatic weapon.

Hah Hah Hah.

Does anybody really believe this crap?

[against all enemies]

14. Maybe al-Zarqawi should release a video of Bush on his bicycle.

He usually looks "flawed" in those. Is this the best the Bush Administration can do in the Middle Esat? Morons.

[BiggJawn]

15. Shows how desperate the Pentagon is...

"Whatta MAROON! Grabbing the hot barrel of a machine gun!"
"Lookit! New Balance sneakers!" (aren't those made in CHINA?)

"Ha-Ha! whatta buncha ROOBS!"

When all you have left is ridicule, you've pretty much lost it.


"All I can say is, for a 'drunken paralytic', Mr. Churchill's giving us one hell of a fight down here...."-"Das Boot"

[malaise]

17. My question is

what happened to the story that he had serious problems with one leg?

[Atman]

18. Not just the story about his leg, the remarks by Rummy that he was Psy-Ops

But, you know, we're just willing sheep, according to a noted poster on this thread. If we follow-up and dig into the past remarks and press releases of this White House, it just shows that we believe anything we're told. Or something like that.

Some people just prefer to be askeered all the time, I guess.

[malaise]

22. I have never believed these liars

and this ridiculous tape won't change that.

Thankfully Ray McGovern is no willing sheep - he nailed that pathological liar yesterday.

[CJCRANE]

28. It's just re-heated leftovers, they got nothing new..nt