Official Alito Hearing Thread – Day 3 – Thread 9

[helderheid]

Needed a new one.

[CottonBear]

1. Lindsey is full of shit. He wants to lead us down the road to facism. n/t

[helderheid]

2. LG is giving me a migraine.

[Surya Gayatri]

10. How the f__k did

this asshat get into the Senate? South Carolinians, how can this aberration be explained? :wow:

[robbedvoter]

3. So, Lindsay os putting Ginsberg, ACLU on trial

and promissing Alito confirmation. Disgusting. Comparing ACLU to CAP

[helderheid]

11. who the fuck does he think he is? You WILL be confirmed. That is so

pompous. Then to say he wouldn't get as many votes as he should. UGH!!!

[hang a left]

4. Here is a letter from the woman that they took off the witness list.

pussies

[robbedvoter]

5. The "lifetime democrat" ploy

[liberal N proud]

6. These damn repuke senators are doing nothing but talking to Alito

No questions just rhetoric talk.
This is not a hearing but a love Alito conference. Graham has not asked one fucking real question. 20 minutes of ads for Alito. What BS

[Marie26]

9. Just like Sessions. nt

[Blue Poppy]

7. STFU Lindsey!!!!!!!!!!

[Democrat 4 Ever]

12. Dan Abrams just said on MSNBC that Alito's wife got upset and

had to leave the hearing room when Graham got all choked up about the "attacks" on Alito. WTF - they are now playing the cry baby card and the "upsetting the little woman" bit. I HATE THESE MOTHER FUCKERS.

[Marie26]

17. Yeah - she's gone now.

So wasn't it really Lindsey that upset her?

[CottonBear]

18. From smirking to tears? Boo hoo. Robert's wife was steadfast.

Mrs. Alito: If youy can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen.

Good goddess, she's such faker or else she's a lilly livered coward.

[flpoljunkie]

26. Lindsay Graham caused this outbreak. He should be ashamed.

He is one weird duck.

[Blue Poppy]

27. Maybe she caught a glimpse of herself in the mirror

and realized her ugly ass outfit would be plastered in the history books forever.

Or she had to potty :shrug:

[stoneisland]

43. Well now...

Let's all post pictures of ourselves on here and then we can start judging appearences. How about that?

Slightly chubby, white guys from the suburbs, stand up!

[Blue Poppy]

71. If I was going to be on national TV

I would have worn something that didn't look like a curtain and couch combo from the 70s.

[BR_Parkway]

21. Lindsey points out the Ginsburg stood up and said exactly what she thought

about Roe - and got confirmed.

So why can't Alito - apparently it's ok for SCOTUS nominee's can answer it - he must be afraid that his answer wouldn't go over well.

[oldtime dfl_er]

22. honest to god

I sometimes wonder just how friggin stupid these run of the mill republicans are. They aren't part of the inner circle that's amassing all the wealth and power, what are they thinking when they put loyalty to the cabal -- from which they will NOT, in the end, profit much -- ahead of the interests of the nation? Honestly sometimes I want to break down and weep at humanity's greed and ignorance, and these Alito hearings are one of those times. All these greedy, small people scratching for what little semblance of power and "I Me Mine" they can nab. And the Ted Kennedys -- the few that are left -- who are motivated by an authentic desire to better humankind, are prevented from doing as much as they could because of the Lindsey Grahams of this country plucking at their coattails, trying to raise themselves by pulling others down.

end of rant


http://www.cafepress.com/scarebaby/658010

[antigone382]

25. Welcome to DU, Blue Poppy!

:hi:

And thanks to everyone commenting on the hearings for those of us who can't watch. :loveya:

[CottonBear]

8. Reading a letter form some woman Dem. atty supporting Scalito.

:puke: Lindsey's sugary sweet voice and old Southern lawyer schitk just make me sick.

[hang a left]

16. She is the head of the National Association of Women Lawyers

She was on the repuke witness list but removed yesterday because her organisation does not support Alito's confirmation.

[realFedUp]

60. her organization does not support Alito's confirmation

just wanted to repeat that part of your post.

[hang a left]

20. See this post

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x103421

[Surya Gayatri]

24. Oh, boy, for me too

I try to ignore the oily tones--but the absurd content makes it impossible.
:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:

[LSK]

13. Shumer seems testy

[helderheid]

14. Should be good!

[spuddonna]

15. Schumer looks like he's ready to attack... n/t

[flpoljunkie]

19. What a grandstander! Suggest Graham read Jonathan Turley's op-ed today.

The confirmation hearings for Judge Samuel Alito will focus greatly on his stated opposition to Roe v. Wade. The obsession with abortion in American politics has had an anaerobic effect on past confirmation hearings, sucking the air out of other issues. For Alito, this may have the welcomed effect of obscuring a more troubling question from his past writings and cases: Alito's extreme views of government authority over citizens' rights.

Despite my agreement with Alito on many issues, I believe that he would be a dangerous addition to the court in already dangerous times for our constitutional system.almost reflexive vote in favor of government, a preference based not on some overriding principle but an overriding party.

In my years as an academic and a litigator, I have rarely seen the equal of Alito's bias in favor of the government. To put it bluntly, when it comes to reviewing government abuse, Samuel Alito is an empty robe.

<>We are down to our last branch, and Alito would supply the final vote to shift the balance of power toward a president claiming the powers of a maximum leader. Alito's writings and opinions show a jurist who is willing to yield tremendous authority to the government and offer little in terms of judicial review — views repeatedly rejected not only by his appellate colleagues but also by the U.S. Supreme Court.


more... But I would argue that repealing Roe is part and parcel of Alito's views of "government authority over citizens' rights"-- in other words, the government will make you carry that child to term, and you have no say so in the matter.

[lyonn]

107. Jonathon Turley is one of my favorites

This editorial proves he is a real thoughtful person, or is it logic? Alito is arrogant and rightous. Alito will be worse than Thomas who is a yes man. Alito has all the right answers according to Him.

[gumby]

FU Lindsay.

We were told Bush was a "good man" too. We were told Bush had a "good heart." Look where that goodness got us: Wars of aggression, world-wide-gulag, torture - even torture of CHILDREN, bankrupting of the country, stolen elections and on and on and on.

Your Party is engulfed in a cesspool of scandals that go to the very heart of this democracy and self-governance. Your Party has shown itself to be treasonous in its insatiable drive toward total power.

Don't you lecture me, in that disgusting country-boy affect about 'goodness' you pipsqueak. Take your unholy "values" and shove em.

[Marie26]

23. So Alito's saying there's no "right to privacy"

in the Constitution. Roberts said that it was. This guy would overturn Roe in a heartbeat.

[helderheid]

28. he's doing that head cocky thing... ACK!!

[InsultComicDog]

Doesn't work for him

It does however work for Columbo and Goren

[CottonBear]

29. Alito's tilting his head...that means he's fixing to lie to Schumer. n/t

[LeftNYC]

30. Is Schumer busting out the Thomas quote?

I read that he did this...

[CottonBear]

38. I think so. He is gonna make Alito give him an answer on Roe.

"Why is it ONLY when it comes to Roe can you not say whether or not it's settled law?"

"Why want you talk to us about Roe when you'll talk about so many other issues?"

[LeftNYC]

50. Im sure if Alito's daughter was pregnant with a black man's child

he would get Dr. Frist to perform the abortion. These guys make me sick.

Raised in NJ and Im ashamed of Alito.

Roe V Wade is the greatest marketing tool that the GOP has ever had. If they overturned it, the religious freaks would get bored. The War on Christmas doesnt pack much punch.

[helderheid]

31. Is Roe settled or not?

Just answer the question!

[LSK]

33. point blank

Schumer shut up and let him NOT answer.

[LSK]

40. if its fucking settled, then how can it come before the court???

FUCK!!

[Marie26]

35. He won't. nt

[spuddonna]

37. Now, now, Lindsey went over this with Sammy! No answer, just dance-y !

He'll never answer...

[hang a left]

32. Going for the pin.

[yourout]

34. I like this line of questioning.

[helderheid]

36. This is good. Can he squirm out of this one?

[CottonBear]

39. "I'll only answer about issues likely to come to the court." WEASEL. n/t

[LSK]

41. TRANSLATION: ROE ISNT SETTLED

[Marie26]

46. Right. nt

[CottonBear]

42. So, he's saying no abortion cases will come before the court? WTF? n/t

[helderheid]

45. Slimey weasley slippery oily icky icky man!

[doublethink]

44. How does Alito know what cases will possibly come .......

before him? It's a fricking LIFETIME APPOINTMENT ...... :wtf:

[CottonBear]

48. Doh! Wasn't that a stupid, stupid non-answer? n/t

[doublethink]

61. Touche' !

:rofl:

[CottonBear]

47. Chuck: "Moving on to another issue related to Roe..."

[Tom Joad]

49. Bill Frist condemned CAP. Alito used it to score points.

BILL FRIST CONDEMNED ALITO'S GROUP: Alito joined Concerned Alumni at its founding in 1972. The organization, co-chaired in the beginning by Asa Bushnell and Shelby Cullom Davis, put forth a magazine called the "Prospect," espousing right-wing views against the inclusion of women, minorities, and other groups into Princeton. The New York Times notes, "The magazine's content also grew increasingly provocative under the editorship of conservative rising stars, including Dinesh D'Souza and later Laura Ingraham." The magazine was so extreme that a 1975 alumni panel including Sen. Bill Frist (R-TN) refused to support it, concluding "that Concerned Alumni had 'presented a distorted, narrow and hostile view of the university that cannot help but have misinformed and even alarmed many alumni' and 'undoubtedly generated adverse national publicity.'"

http://judgingthefuture.net/2005/11/alito_round-up.php

[hang a left]

51. I bet there is a pool amongst the Dems on the committee on who

can get an answer out of this freak.

[CottonBear]

52. I'll go with Chuck. He's not as nice as the others. n/t

[LSK]

58. Chuck is the best at not getting answers

Remember he asked Roberts what his favorite movie was? :rofl:

[leftstreet]

57. LOL! But the poor bastard realistically can't answer it.

If he says it's a right - the rightwing fundies will tank him like they did Harriet.

If he says it isn't a right - the same happens on the left.

I suspect he doesn't give a shit about the abortion issue. But he knows this is the only reason the RW has him sitting in that chair today.

[Marie26]

64. I got that sense about Roberts,

but this guy seems more like a genuine pro-life fanatic. That 1985 statement was pretty harsh.

[Marie26]

53. The sentence isn't comprehensive...

but he won't say anything to explain it.

[La_Fourmi_Rouge]

54. The Line I Have To Draw

Commenting on cases that might come before the Court would be "A disservice to the judicial process."

Schumer is nailing him. Alito is uncomfortable and defensive.

"Senator it was a general question." I think the statement speaks for itself."

I was proud of my participation in the Thornburg case!"

[radio4progressives]

55. Is there going to be a session tomorrow?

and what ever happened to the Rusher papers thingy?

[realFedUp]

63. Witnesses pro and con will testify supposedly...unless

there is another round of these questions.

[CottonBear]

56. HOLY crap! He refuses to say a woman raped by father could have abortion.

I wonder what his daughter thinks of that?

He's one sick mother fucker. :(

[helderheid]

59. SICK SICK SICK SICK!!!

:mad:

[CottonBear]

65. Scalito looks like he's going to projectile vomit. Ruh Roh, back to CAP.

Chuck is absolutely brutal.

Alito doesn't remember getting CAP magazines or wrtiting membership checks.

[CottonBear]

62. Chuck asking him to think of the broad consequences of the 1985 memo

supporting the defeat of abortion.

[realFedUp]

66. Schumer questions why he remembers other orgs he joined

and can't remember being a member of CAP.

Liar.

[helderheid]

69. he is SHREDDING him.

Maybe he was boozing it up with * and blacked it out!

[Marie26]

70. Will not answer.

:grr: How can he know it was truthful to list it if he doesn't remember being a member?

[realFedUp]

72. he can't come clean on this issue....

He's digging himself more of a hole now
on this issue.

[realFedUp]

81. "depending on the form" he fills out....

is what he puts down.
kinda cribbing your resume to suit the job...
like answering questions to get the job

[RadiDem]

79. Says he listed CAP but doesn't remember it

ouch!

[RadiDem]

67. BUSTED ! Lying about not remembering!

about Princton!

[LSK]

68. he doesnt remember a damn thing about CAP

In 1985 he was a member of some other groups but doesnt remember this one but in he put it on his application.

[CottonBear]

76. Ouch! Chuck said "CAP had a tawdry history."

Poor Scalito is back pedalling from CAP at warp speed.

[hang a left]

73. Wolf just reported that Mrs. Alito left the room in tears.

[sasha031]

77. how is that possible

he on CSpan now

[LSK]

MRS Alito

[hang a left]

86. see this thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x111033

[CottonBear]

78. Who cares. It's probably just an act. If you can't stand the heat...n/t

[sasha031]

74. Shumer is a great lawyer

what a job he is doing

[Grateful for Hope]

88. He sure is n/t

[woodsprite]

75. So he's admitting he's a suckup when it comes to applying for a job. n/t

[helderheid]

80. yep!

[helderheid]

I'm convinced he doesn't remember the CAP membership because he was partyi

partying with * :rofl:

[CottonBear]

87. Why didn't you put it on your application in 1990? I didn't remember.

So, you remembered from 1972 - 1985 because of ROTC and that's why Kennedy asked for documents and theat's why there are unanswered questions.

Oh baby!

[The Witch]

82. Oh, come ON, chuck, take this and run with it!

He's saying he was aware CAP was a political organization! That's something!

[Mind_your_head]

83. So he doesn't remember CAP and he doesn't remember

filling out the application in 1985.

[yourout]

84. He is starting to crack....

wish we had another 20 minutes.

[Avalux]

85. Panderer!! That's what he's telling me now.

He listed CAP on his job app just to get the position. Saying "I don't remember" over and over is complete bullshit.

[LSK]

89. give Chuck 3 more hours

Damn hes good!!!

[leftstreet]

100. Hope * is watching. Chuck's doing this WITHOUT resorting to torture!

:rofl:

[CottonBear]

104. Goddamnit. Time's up. Back to Cornyn who is playing the Nazi card

by talking about the holocaust and human skin lampshades... :wtf:

[realFedUp]

90. Spector shuts Schumer down.

Guess Schumer was effective.

[LSK]

92. his time was up

[hang a left]

97. Well I truly hope they have something because if they don't

they will have a bunch of egg on their faces.

[The Witch]

91. WOW how much he suddenly remembered about his college days.

he was THIS close to singing before Arlen saved him.

[Avalux]

93. Damn. He needed more time.

That little exchange was very telling. Alito will say and do anything to get ahead. Weasel!!

[acmejack]

94. Is there a bigger jerk in the Senate than Cornyn?

[sasha031]

95. Kudo's for SHUMER!

To watch a masterful attorney at work, he was fantastic.

[robbedvoter]

96. "I was aplying for a political position" - Chuck pounce on this!

He listed the KKK organization to look good with his political buddy. Worth highlighting.

[dogday]

98. John Cornyn

Enjoy it while you can. I can only hope this will be one of his last appearances in the Senate... Please tell me an indictment is forthcoming!

[yourout]

99. Great more irrelivent Puke BS.

Where the hell is this going and what does it have to do with SCOTUS?

[Marie26]

109. Wacky

Well, you can clearly see the relation between PETA and the CAP alumni program... or not. As somehow showing the desperation of his opponents. I think this shows his own desperation to try to make the Democrats look bad.

[doublethink]

101. FILL-A-FUCKING-BUSTER THIS BASTARD.

The more I hear weasel boy going on behind me on Cspan while I try and get some work done .... argggggggggggg! Bring on the Nuclear Option for this shit to you Repug Rethugs. I'm done. Shut down the government over this .... 'just do it' Peace. :)

[RadiDem]

102. Cornyn talking about Nazis LOL!

[Daphne08]

105. I find it ironic since the Nazi Party was very, very right-wing! n/t

[realFedUp]

103. Cornyn on, talking about witness Stephen Dujack

talking about this:

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-dujack11jan11,0,746540.story?coll=la-news-comment-opinions

The Alito testimony you won't hear
By Stephen R. Dujack, Writer/editor STEPHEN R. DUJACK graduated from Princeton and covered CAP for the university's alumni magazine from 1976 to 1986.

IN 21ST CENTURY Washington, fame doesn't last for 15 minutes anymore. It lasts for a single news cycle. There is the big press release. The next morning the major newspapers spell your name right. But by noon the Drudge Report runs a shotgun blast of half-truths and innuendoes, and by evening pundits are sifting through your entrails on CNN and Fox. Can citizen participation in government survive the advent of the Internet search engine?

Late last Thursday, Patrick Leahy, the ranking Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee, issued a list of witnesses to testify for the Democrats on Samuel A. Alito Jr.'s nomination to the Supreme Court. I was on that list — a mere writer with a bachelor's degree — among all the distinguished household names. But by the end of the day Friday, I wasn't on the list anymore.

I had been scheduled to testify as an expert on an organization called Concerned Alumni of Princeton. In 1985, on an application for a promotion in the Reagan Justice Department, Alito had touted his membership in CAP, which had opposed coeducation at Princeton and asked for strict quotas limiting the numbers of women and minorities at the university. Alito's membership in the group thus could shed light on his respect for civil rights.

In my case, it was an L.A. Times Op-Ed article I wrote. In "Animals Suffer a Perpetual Holocaust" (April 21, 2003), I defended People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals for using a quote of my grandfather's. Unlike me, my grandfather was a famous man, Isaac Bashevis Singer, who had escaped anti-Semitism in Europe in 1935 and won the Nobel Prize for literature in 1978.

continued

[CottonBear]

114. SO that's how he brought in the Nazi angle. Sick bastard. n/t

[La_Fourmi_Rouge]

106. Whew!

Cornyn here going off the deep end, folks... to point out the desperation of Alito's opponents.

Folks, there is no depth to which a Republican will not go to slander, lie, and defame his opponents.

[helderheid]

108. new thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x111164

[gumby]

110. Unbelievable

Is Cornyn insane?

[chat_noir]

111. Dujack's article in the Princetonian

Alito needs to shed his CAP

Almost 20 years ago, the Concerned Alumni of Princeton (CAP) collapsed like a modern House of Usher, so rotten from within from its own deceptions and peculiar madness that it could no longer sustain its own weight. For Supreme Court nominee Judge Samuel Alito '72, the reappearance of CAP in the national press last week because he included it on that now infamous 1985 job application must have been as shocking as the reappearance of Roderick Usher's dead twin sister in Poe's famous story.

Or, it should have been. At the very least, Judge Alito will have to explain to the Senate Judiciary Committee why he paid dues to an outfit whose modus operandi was deceit and dirty tricks. He will have to explain how he permitted himself to belong to an organization that was overtly racist and sexist for its entire 14-year existence ­— at times passionately so, too.

Even today, they lie. The Daily Princetonian reported Friday that CAP's longtime board member Andrew Napolitano '72 denies that the group opposed coeducation! This is like denying that the Catholic Church opposed abortion. Opposition to the presence of women at Princeton was CAP's central precept. Fortunately, your reporter quoted co-founder Shelby Cullom Davis '30 writing in Prospect, CAP's member magazine, in 1973, that he could not "envisage" a future student body of 40 percent women and minorities. More important, according to a 1977 New Yorker article, the group used the same language in its fund raising.

From its founding in 1972 till its unlamented demise in 1986, CAP was an organization that at first openly opposed full coeducation and the representative inclusion of minorities at Princeton, and then when those became "settled issues," continued its opposition to the mere presence of women and minorities at Princeton through tactics ranging from code words to open harassment.

http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/archives/2005/11/22/opinion/13901.shtml

[Oreo]

112. Cornyn comparing number of questions asked to number answered

Compared to Ginsburg hearing.

What a POS. Alito is giving either non-answers or very vague answers at the least.

[LoKnLoD]

113. ohhh he has a chart!!!

:sarcasm:

How many of those questions were yes/no bullshit questions from butt kissing republicans.

[LeftCoast]

115. Locking - Please continue discussion here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x111164