NMDemDist2
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Wed Jan-11-06 05:04 PM
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I may have just hurt my beloved RW family member's feelings |
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Edited on Wed Jan-11-06 05:08 PM by AZDemDist6
she sent out an email raving about this video and that EVERYBODY needs to see it http://www.interviewwithgod.com/patriotic/highband.htmfor those who don't care to watch the drivel it is a compliation of quotes from George Washington to Ronald Reagan, with Adams, Jackson and Roosevelt thrown in about how we are "Under God" this is what I sent back ("accidently" hitting "reply to all) you know I love you but please.....
I had to laugh at the quote from Thomas Jefferson, he was right,
"I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that his justice cannot sleep forever." Thomas Jefferson
I think Jefferson had a lot of great ideas like these:
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. <http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/37700.html> *Thomas Jefferson*, /Letter to the Secretary of the Treasury Albert Gallatin (1802)/
The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions, that I wish it always to be kept alive.
*Thomas Jefferson*
If there is one principle more deeply rooted in the mind of every American, it is that we should have nothing to do with conquest.
*Thomas Jefferson*
Here is what our Founding Fathers wrote about Bible-based Christianity:
Thomas Jefferson:
I have examined all the known superstitions of the world, and I do not find in our particular superstition of Christianity one redeeming feature. They are all alike founded on fables and mythology. Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned. What has been the effect of this coercion? To make one half the world fools and the other half hypocrites; to support roguery and error all over the earth.
SIX HISTORIC AMERICANS, by John E. Remsburg, letter to William Short Jefferson again:
Christianity...(has become) the most perverted system that ever shone on man. ...Rogueries, absurdities and untruths were perpetrated upon the teachings of Jesus by a large band of dupes and importers led by Paul, the first great corrupter of the teaching of Jesus.
More Jefferson:
The clergy converted the simple teachings of Jesus into an engine for enslaving mankind and adulterated by artificial constructions into a contrivance to filch wealth and power to themselves...these clergy, in fact, constitute the real Anti-Christ.
John Adams:
Where do we find a precept in the Bible for Creeds, Confessions, Doctrines and Oaths, and whole carloads of other trumpery that we find religion encumbered with in these days?
Also Adams:
The doctrine of the divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity.
* Adams signed the Treaty of Tripoli. Article 11 states: *
*The Government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion.*
Here's Thomas Paine:
I would not dare to so dishonor my Creator God by attaching His name to that book (the Bible).
It is the duty of every true Deist to vindicate the moral justice of God against the evils of the Bible.
Accustom a people to believe that priests and clergy can forgive sins...and you will have sins in abundance.
The Christian church has set up a religion of pomp and revenue in pretended imitation of a person (Jesus) who lived a life of poverty.
Finally let's hear from James Madison:
What influence in fact have Christian ecclesiastical establishments had on civil society? In many instances they have been upholding the thrones of political tyranny. In no instance have they been seen as the guardians of the liberties of the people. *Rulers who wished to subvert the public liberty have found in the clergy convenient auxiliaries. A just government, instituted to secure and perpetuate liberty, does not need the clergy.*
Madison objected to state-supported chaplains in Congress and to the exemption of churches from taxation. He wrote:
Religion and government will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.
These founding fathers were a reflection of the American population. *Having escaped from the state-established religions of Europe, only 7% of the people in the 13 colonies belonged to a church when the Declaration of Independence was signed.*
I practice my faith as Jesus suggested to Matthew
*Matthew 6:5-6: * "/And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men....when thou prayest, enter into thy closet and when thou has shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret...." /
and I support our Supreme Court's ruling / /
/"/"/When the government puts its imprimatur on a particular religion it conveys a message of exclusion to all those who do not adhere to the favored beliefs. *A government cannot be premised on the belief that all persons are created equal when it asserts that God prefers some.*/" Supreme Court Justice Harry A. Blackmun in the /Lee v. Weisman /ruling,/ /1992.
I love my country and I love God, but they do not need to meet in the middle for my patriotism or my salvation.
Love you! hope I didn't start a war....
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Wed Jan-11-06 05:07 PM
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NMDemDist2
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Wed Jan-11-06 05:09 PM
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2. thanks, it did take a while to pull them all together LOL and DRAT |
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Edited on Wed Jan-11-06 05:10 PM by AZDemDist6
i forgot to add my sig line to the list :banghead:
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Wed Jan-11-06 05:13 PM
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3. So true - media should be telling Americans the obscene profit that |
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financial institutions are making off our nation's debt alone.
Bush has ensured the obscene profits with his obscene economic policies and obscene priorities for his spending.
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Wed Jan-11-06 05:21 PM
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6. yup it's all pretty sickening isn't it? n/t |
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Wed Jan-11-06 05:17 PM
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4. I don't know if you started a war |
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but you got a greatest recommendation from me, and ain't that a whole lot better? :) :)
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Wed Jan-11-06 05:19 PM
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5. yeah, that beats a war any day LOL thanks! n/t |
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Wed Jan-11-06 05:22 PM
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7. That's almost as satisfying |
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as slapping someone upside the noggin and screaming wake up. I wouldn't worry about hurt feelings.
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Wed Jan-11-06 07:17 PM
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10. so far the silence has been deafening |
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Wed Jan-11-06 05:22 PM
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8. let us know as replies come back to you please. n/t |
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Wed Jan-11-06 07:17 PM
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9. will do... thanks! n/t |
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Wed Jan-11-06 07:21 PM
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11. LOL...excellent reply! |
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Who needs freeper relatives anyway? :7
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