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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 01:54 PM
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Ray McGovern chosen for new CIA Chief.
Just a rumor?
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 01:55 PM
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1. I think your head is picking up signals from an alternate universe again.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 01:56 PM
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2. HAHAHA
Yup.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 01:56 PM
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3. LOL! Wouldn't HE be a surprise choice! nt
Edited on Fri May-05-06 01:56 PM by babylonsister
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jbnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 02:10 PM
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6. I hope that alternate universe
takes over this universe.
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Janice325 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 01:57 PM
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4. Holy Crap!
I would think that's just a rumor. Last night I saw the clip of Mr. McGovern ripping Rummie a new a**hole (in a polite manner, of course) and it was so RICH!!!
I wouldn't think this "administration" has any love for Mr. McGovern.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 02:09 PM
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5. Always fun to leave the sarcasm drippy off the post
just to see who you lure in.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 02:11 PM
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8. Yeah, it's fun to see who is awake.
LOL
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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 02:11 PM
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7. Guy James just suggested this on his show,
but of course Bush will move heaven and earth to find someone even worse than Goss.

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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 02:41 PM
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9. It's a great idea, but first we have to restore our right to vote....
Right now, we have rightwing Bushite corporations--Diebold and ES&S--"tabulating" all the votes with "TRADE SECRET," PROPRIETARY programming code, and virtually no audit/recount controls.

Not good for the honest people in the CIA. Not good for you and me.

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SOME RESOURCES FOR AMERICAN REVOLUTION II:

Hopeful signs - latest news:

California voters sue the state over Diebold:
www.VoterAction.org is suing the state of California and 18 Calif county registrars on behalf of 25 California voter/plaintiffs, on the illegal Diebold "certification" by Schwarzenegger appointee Bruce McPherson.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2180496
Seven of these counties just promised the judge they would use PAPER BALLOTS, and were dismissed from this lawsuit (4/27/06).
http://kcbs.com/pages/29285.php
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2249205

Maryland rejects Diebold:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x418263

Florida - anti-trust accusations against Diebold, ES&S and Sequoia, re: heroic Florida election official Ion Sancho:
(FLA AG subpoenas the companies)
http://www.computerworld.com/governmenttopics/government/legalissues/story/0,10801,110192,00.html
http://www.tbo.com/news/politics/MGBKSY8W8LE.html
(info & discussion)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2183630

Utah county clerk fights back!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x419226

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More resources for American Revolution II:

www.votersunite.org (MythBreakers - easy primer on electronic voting--one of the myths is that HAVA requires electronic voting; it does not.)
www.UScountvotes.org (statistical monitoring of '06 and '08 elections--they need donations)


(Activist sites with links to state activist groups or info)
www.votetrustusa.org (news of this great movement from around the country)
www.votersunited.org (good general info, and state links)
www.verifiedvoting.org (great activist site)
www.solarbus.org/election/index.shtml (fab compendium of all election info)

www.freepress.org (devoted to election reform)
www.bradblog.com (also great, and devoted to election reform)
www.TruthIsAll.net (analysis of the 2004 election)* :patriot: :applause: :patriot:
www.votepa.us (well-organized local group of citizen activists in Pennsylvania, where important legal issues are at stake, including state's rights over election systems)
Provisions of the PA lawsuit:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x423739

The Voter Confidence Resolution
http://tinyurl.com/rlnr2 (“We Do Not Consent”)
http://guvwurld.blogspot.com (GuvWurld blog main page)
http://tinyurl.com/amryg (Voter Confidence Resolution

www.debrabowen.com (Calif Senator running for Sec of State to reform election system)
www.johnbonifaz.com (running for Massachusetts Sec of State on strong election reform and antiwar platform)

*Some tributes to TruthIsAll, who is very ill:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x417007
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x417231
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x675477

Congressional bills:

Russ Holt's HR 550 requires a real paper ballot, bans secret software in "voting machines", and has more than 170 co-sponsors, but the audit required is too weak, it promotes electronic voting and centralized power, and the secret software might be permitted to continue in the central tabulators (the bill is not clear). To sign the HR 550 petition: http://www.rushholt.com/petition.html
At lot of discussion at DU of the loopholes/pitfalls in HR 550:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x422926
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x421136
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=422967&mesg_id=422967
(Note: Senate Bill-SB 330 and House-HR704 simply require a "voter verified paper audit trail" (VVPAT), which may be best for the moment.)


Also of interest:

Michael Collins (Autorank)'s searing election reform article for New Zealand's Scoop.com
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x971363

Bob Koehler (-- four recent election reform initiatives in Ohio, predicted to win by 60/40 votes, flipped over, on election day, into 60/40 LOSSES!--the biggest flipover we've seen yet; the election theft machines and their masters are now dictating election policy! Title: "Poll Shock" 11/24/05)
http://commonwonders.com/archives/col321.htm

Bob Koehler's latest: "Trust us: Take this box and stuff it" (3/16/06)
http://commonwonders.com/archives/col337.htm
More Koehler:
www.tmsfeatures.com/tmsfeatures/subcategory.jsp?file=20051124ctnbk-a.txt&catid=1824&code=ctnbk

Amaryllis (Diebold, ES&S, Sequoia lavish lobbying of election officials - Beverly Hilton, Aug. '05)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x380340

HOWARD DEAN remarks on electronic voting machines 04/06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x994507

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Throw Diebold, ES&S and ALL election theft machines into 'Boston Harbor' NOW!

:think: :patriot: :woohoo: :patriot: :think:

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"That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it." --Thomas Jefferson, The Declaration of Independence
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