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Fri May-05-06 09:50 PM
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U.S. Military Coup happened today - BushCo is Toast |
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Edited on Fri May-05-06 10:04 PM by LeftHander
No mistake about it.
The U.S. Military just put the skids on BushCo.
the dots....connect them....
Gannon comes out as gay and a gay escort.
Goss resigns.
The FBI investigating a Watergate Sex scandal.
Cheney threatens Russia.
Condi, MSM have been shilling for Iran military resolution.
Multiple retired generals still alive criticize BushCo.
BushCo blatently challenging the constitution with sigining statements, torture and NSA spying.
Too much for some of the JTS. (Joint Chiefs of Staff)
The U.S. military has officially stop obeying the Bush administration. Just as he divided the American public so too has he divided the Military leadership. We are all cut of the same cloth.
No need to freak out. We all know where the real power is. It is the U.S. Military and it is is dysfunctional at best but it knows where it's true alligence lays. The Constitution.
It was only a matter of time before the right promises and threats were made.
Make no mistake. There are some high ranking military types that will no doubt people will turn up dead....This will be the sign that the Military took the advice of DU and choose the side of preserving the constitution over protecting the interests of the robber barons.
There were direct statements on this board that discussed the role and responsibility of the military in preserving the constitution of these United States. We've have been heard. And we should be glad. The last thing anyone wants is a popular revolt, where the military is called in to kill citizens. That is where we were heading. Clearer heads have prevailed and BushCo is finished.
The military code puts the constitution first before obeying the President. They could always play that card with GW.
They just did, today May 5th 2006.
A democracy is only as stong as the loyalty of the military to it's constitution. Thank the troops and our dedicated military leaders to recognize that BushCo were liars and thieves set to demolish America.
Edit: spulling
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Der Blaue Engel
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Fri May-05-06 09:52 PM
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What military coup? Link??
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Fri May-05-06 09:54 PM
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2. What exactly are you talking about? |
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Nero and his cronies are still in power. Let me know when Army tanks are parked on the White House lawn, and then we can talk coup.
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Fri May-05-06 10:03 PM
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7. Like it would be a 3rd world type coup....... |
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Give me a break...there is no way the perception of a coup would be allowed to happen. But you know that right now...the JTS is TELLING Bush what is at stake. the presidency may not fall directly...but all the supporting cast will be gone.
Use your head.
this "sex" scandal is was always the card that could be played and it took a few brave people people to play it. Peoople that truely belive in our Constitution....and the only people left in Washington that do are the military. And they were just tipped over the edge by a arrogant loose cannon Vice President...and a incompetent drug addict President.
Gannon was one of the keys. His duty was to be there. An unwitting gay soldier in the war for the constitution.
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Sat May-06-06 06:21 AM
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32. Wasn't the first coup in 2000? n/t |
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Sat May-06-06 06:25 AM
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33. Maybe It Was A Coochey Coup? |
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I know there are some active generals who are not stupid cowards and flunky puppets and I do believe that the Constitution will be upheld in the end!
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Fri May-05-06 09:57 PM
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Fri May-05-06 09:58 PM
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4. guess i am not able to connect these dots!! |
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Fri May-05-06 10:00 PM
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what are you referring to that happened today?
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LeftHander
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Fri May-05-06 10:14 PM
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9. Here let me explain... |
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Gannon gained his stature and access to the WHite House by having dirt on congress and others for the Watergate prostitution scandal now being investigated by the FBI.
Gannon admits that he is gay today and thus validates all the specualtion about his placement in the WH press.
Scotty has resigned....I conclude Scotty knew a lot about gannon.
The Watergate "Duke" sex for influence scandal reaches way back when Gannon was a gay escort for hire. He was hired.
this is the "ace in the hole"....the Military went along with BushCo for as long as it did taking a wait and see attitude. Many in the Military higher ups were bought and sold on BushCo. Many weren't. It was this battle that waged and Bush lost himselft by allowing Cheney too much leverage. Bush being the shallow idealistic frat boy was drunk with the power of being President. But it was Dick that has long been the dangerous one. Even G HW Bush could not predict Cheney's ambition.
The basic fact is...the GOP....the NeoCons are emasculated. The presidency is now under control of the Military....they have the best interest of preseving this nation and they will do so.
Watch and see.....
The tide has turned.
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Fri May-05-06 10:18 PM
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11. Perhaps I missed something |
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I've seen other references today on DU regarding Gannon speaking out. Do you have a link to this story. And also, is there a link to his alleged connection with the Watergate prostitution scandal? Or is this all just speculation?
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Fri May-05-06 10:27 PM
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15. This is not specualtion....but logical conclusion.... |
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How does a known male escort, former military, gain access to the White House?
DU has always been about connecting the dots and we've been right time and time again.
It doesn;t matter what you think happened.
In the end...The democrats are taking charge this Novemeber. Bush is emacualted. The GOP in congress is going to be mostly in jail....
that is the outcome of this bloodless coup.
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Sat May-06-06 01:01 AM
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26. I don't think it was ever proven that Gannon was in the military. |
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I think people tried to find out and could not confirm that.
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Sat May-06-06 01:06 AM
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28. I'm wondering if you have some inside info, but I must admit that |
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deep in my heart I've wished for something like this since well about 2002.
I've thought surely there must be someone(s) out there doing some planning to do SOMETHING to stop this march to hell the neocons have been leading.
I hope, pray, wish, and yearn for what you say to be true.
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Sat May-06-06 06:18 AM
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Fri May-05-06 10:00 PM
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6. Most of our military doesn't even know what the Constitution is. |
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And for sure they haven't read it and if they did 70% would not understand it.
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Sat May-06-06 01:10 AM
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Fri May-05-06 10:05 PM
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Fri May-05-06 10:15 PM
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Fri May-05-06 10:18 PM
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12. Not to be a pessimist |
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but the coup people and the assassins are mainly on the side of the current regime from way back and as a corollary their straight arrow job minded brethren can barely imagine acting like that.
When I see people resign, blow the whistle in straight forward fashion and get knocked down like good solider tenpins the thought of a "military coup" only brings to mind the dark side. In other countries it usually takes a long history of coups on the dark side before along the way the good guys reluctantly do one themselves and usually ry to get out of the way of civilian government before they are corrupted into a dictatorship.
However, in this conflicted mess we can only hope the underground cumulative effect of resistance will bring the crooks down and that the greed base might just cut loose their best asset gone dangerously bad. The surest things you mentioned and the big exercises of power are all the bad guys steaming ahead and grabbing more. The good things at best are that people are unhappy and speaking out and some law courts are still functional.
A military coup would still be a confirmation of national failure as much as a "cure". People are so lied to about democracy and the Constitution that shifting power on top won't cure the whole national problem. It would be nice if a lot more government officials thought protecting America and its laws is a high priority in their current job.
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Fri May-05-06 10:34 PM
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16. Good points but more serious... |
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Edited on Fri May-05-06 10:43 PM by LeftHander
We were in a constitutional crisis.
America was at the brink of becoming a fascist single party state. Only the Military stood in the way. And Bush and Rumsfeld tried very hard to ensure that they could control all layers of the military.
the thing they did not understand and I think that many do not understand is that the military mind is duty and honor bound. And that duty is first to uphold the constituition. thankfully even our founding fathers recognized this and made sure that the military was bound not to an individual but and idea....
it took a while for this to sink in. Because BushCo has been as effective on the Military as they were on the media and the public. Rumsfeld and Cheney were both long time military cilvilian leaders and understood how to manipulate it. What they did not figure is that ultiamtely the military if beholden to the constituton first not the Presidency. Breaking the chain of command in the military is not easy.
But it was done today.
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Sat May-06-06 06:16 AM
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30. I would think that there is a significant part of the military brass |
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that are vehemently loyal to the neocon philosophy. That only stands to reason as well. Possibly there is a huge internal struggle going on within the military? But we haven't seen signs of it. There are no military hawk generals coming out defending Bush.
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Sat May-06-06 06:35 AM
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35. "takes a long history of coups on the dark side" |
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Edited on Sat May-06-06 06:40 AM by Hubert Flottz
Think about the things that have happened in the US since 1963...then think about how Kennedy was ready to disband the CIA and he said he would do it. Two weeks later he lay dead in Dallas TEXAS...the rest is is very shady, if not, "dark history."
Edit...I'm not saying I agree with the OP, but I do say that the public is mostly lied to and has been kept in the dark, all along, about the innerworkings of the DoD and the CIA.
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Fri May-05-06 10:21 PM
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13. Well I agree that the tide has turned but it doesn't make me happy |
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We all know what these people are capable of. With the hammer falling you can expect another attack followed by the bombing of Iran followed by a crackdown on dissenters. Woo Hoo! :mad:
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Fri May-05-06 10:26 PM
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14. There is certainly some kind of "push-back" going on. |
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Both from the brass in the Armed Services and many of the senior officials in the CIA. These are not the kind of people that can easily be trifled with; they are use to being WARRIORS.
Contrary to what one of the posters here has said, a majority of these people are well aware that they have sworn to protect the Constitution and they take that very seriously. Just look at how that CIA agent questioned Rumsfeld yesterday.
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Sat May-06-06 12:11 AM
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There must be one hell of a battle going on in the white house, eh?
We can't turn them out by voting or they would have been gone long ago, so it looks like the military pushing back will be the savior of the democracy... for now.
But get ready for the congressional elections, if we overwhelm the voting machines with a great force we will be in position to run the squatters out once and for all.
Let's hope the military can protect us until then, for they are the only force that can, and, besides, it is their job.
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Fri May-05-06 10:39 PM
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17. Rawstory had a Gannon story today |
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but their site is down right now, so I can't link it.
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Fri May-05-06 11:22 PM
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You raise a lot of good points. I think there may be some kind of low-grade military "coup" of a kind on-going or near the brink. We'll never see it, of course, but it seems perhaps the real muscle of the country is flexing itself. Lets see if they have the integrity to withstand the sociopathic sawed-off Caesars trying to bully them into going their way.
BTW, thanks for having the gumption to raise "dangerous" speculation. I've done that on occasion here and have learned to regret it. lol
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Fri May-05-06 11:45 PM
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19. if i remember correctly-- i read where |
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Edited on Fri May-05-06 11:45 PM by madrchsod
powell and another wrote a paper on a scenario similar to what you are thinking. it was a war college paper about the miltary restoring democracy in the us.
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Sat May-06-06 12:21 AM
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21. "The U.S. military has officially stop obeying the Bush administration." |
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This is simply untrue.
Nothing you've cited supports that statement.
Sorry if that's harsh, but there you are.
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Sat May-06-06 06:33 AM
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34. Oh, but it did, just a second ago |
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Before you knew it was untrue, there existed the possibility that it did, shortly, however remote. And in that moment, the writer gives us a glimpse of a military that is actually sworn to protect the constitution.
It does beg the question of what they are protecting these days, and why it isn't the constitution.
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Sat May-06-06 12:25 AM
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22. This is the most fascinating and unnerving thread I've ever read on DU. |
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Ye gods, I hope you're right Lefthander. As much as I mistrust the military at this point, I agree with you that many of its leaders would find Bush**'s trampling of the Constitution highly distasteful and resist his malevolent designs on unitary power. I'd sleep much better at night knowing those who put this country first are guiding the ship of state through the darkness wrought by the Neocons.
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Sat May-06-06 12:35 AM
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23. "Military coup" Pshaw, not the right term at all |
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Did the military unseat Mr.bush today? No? Well, no military coup.
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Sat May-06-06 12:50 AM
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24. Will someone please open a window in here? |
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Edited on Sat May-06-06 12:51 AM by Rosemary2205
Leftie needs a little oxygen. :)
ooops, sorry that should be to the OP. (I hate when a posting error screws up a perfectly good smarmy comeback)
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Sat May-06-06 12:58 AM
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25. Either pass that pipe.... |
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or put it down and back away....slowly. :smoke:
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Sat May-06-06 01:03 AM
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27. Anyone rooting for a military coup is a moron. |
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Edited on Sat May-06-06 01:07 AM by Zynx
This idea is also garbage. Military has nothing whatsoever to do with the CIA above a tactical level, and generally for good reason. Nor does the military have anything to do with domestic law enforcement.
Cut back.
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Sat May-06-06 06:41 AM
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36. and just WTF are you talking about? |
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Sat May-06-06 06:45 AM
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This is very speculative. Please feel free to repost when you have a link from a reputable source.
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