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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 12:33 AM
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The Real Reason Goss Quit - and it wasn't about Hookers...
No, sadly, the Reich-wing doesn't care about Hookers being used to curry favor for lucrative covert spending sprees. They don't care, they won't care and nothing we can say about the hypocrisy of it all will make them care. They don't care.

Do you know how I know? There was a Gay Hooker in the White House Press corp and it didn't even register. They didn't comprehend the national security implications or the earth-shattering irony of the stained red slacks image that just begged to shine through. The Hooker in question entered the White House on bogus credentials and gained unfettered access when the name on his business card and his I.D. was as phony as the news he pretended to write. Caught red-handed, did the GOP masses respond indignantly? No, they got down on their hands and knees and opened wide, tongues dripping in anticipation for more cream-filled propaganda.(pardon the metaphor)

So if it wasn't the Hookers and it most definitely isn't national security. (The only "national" security issue these guys care about is protecting our breeding stock from brown DNA. They don't care one whit about protecting this country; militarily or economically.) The only reason they'd possibly sacrifice one of their own is that something frightens them even more than a momentary scandal that will quickly slide down the memory hole. Something has shaken them to the core and they are looking to fling one more scandal up just to knock it away. And that something is....

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That's right, Stephen Colbert. They're merely trying to change the topic. But I'm not so sure they're going to be successful. Sure hookers and corruption are juicy, but Stephen did something no one else has heretofore done... he made them feel impotent.

Not being able to get a hard-on because they finally met someone with bigger balls than them, that's got them running scared. Feeling impotent with a $1000 a night hermaphrodite hooker waiting for you in your hotel really sucks. Let's see what other things these guys are willing to do to get America to forget about Stephen Colbert.
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 12:43 AM
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1. I think the Rumsfeld exchange with Ray McGovern was the reason...
Edited on Sat May-06-06 12:49 AM by Harper_is_Bush
You say they wanted to change the topic, but Colbert never really became the topic.

In the Ray McGovern exchange, Rummy slammed the CIA huge.
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northamericancitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 12:54 AM
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3. Right on and pathetic cause they are also using the Kennedy's accident
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 12:10 PM
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29. And isn't the new Crook one of Rummy's friends?

I thought I read that some place.
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 12:22 PM
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32. See Post #20; the author of the post admits he's doing a 'Colbert'
himself! Satire, facetiousness, tongue-in-cheek!
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 12:38 PM
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33. Colbert isn't making news like McGovern though...
and there's a reason for that.

I'll let others figure out what that is.
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 10:15 AM
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34. I'm intrigued! I spent a good bit of time online yesterday reading about
what McGovern has said about Goss, before and after his appointment to the CIA. I was truly amazed at his breadth of knowledge, his integrity, and his long history of service to the truth, not politics! Fascinating character. Thanks for provoking the stimulation to read about him.

McGovern 'Cheney's' Rumsfeld, and the next day, Goss resigns. McGovern knows a lot! Is this related to what you are hinting at?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 12:52 AM
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2. This is a volatile way to change the topic. I don't agree
but I like your thinking! I sadly think the hooker thing might bring them down. It's just too damn sad that this war wasn't persued in the right way to bring them down, because that coulda/shoulda been the reason. When Dems retake something (dare I hope?) the issues might go towards the right thing.
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 12:59 AM
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4. Maybe the prostitutes weren't women ....
And maybe this group didn't need to always bring in prostitutes to entertain themselves.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 01:05 AM
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6. Trust me, I know that, and I would revel in their
love of men! I have absolutely nothing against homosexuals, but
how ironic would that be? The party of morality who have been
dissing homos foreva, and run on that thought? Ooh, I'm a married
woman, but I'm so ready for this to happen! :evilgrin:
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 01:01 AM
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5. Nah.
Colbert is not the topic. Bushism's corruption, incompetence and danger to democracy are the topics. Goss's resignation--in the midst of the PERFECT conversation-changing accident of a Kennedy's Ambien-fueled motor crash on Capitol Hill, a gift from the Republican-loving gods if there ever was one--actually pours more fuel on the fire for future Colberts to slash and burn them.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 01:10 AM
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7. a flashpoint, a catalyst, that could be. I would *love* it if so. :)
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 01:12 AM
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8. Well, it's convenient newsstreaming, that's for sure. But I think we need
Edited on Sat May-06-06 01:14 AM by Peace Patriot
a little time to elapse on this one, to figure out what's going on. Too many possibilities: the Watergate/Abramoff/prostitutes-gambling thing; CIA payback; Negroponte black ops in Latin America (Hayden tied to Negroponte); Rumsfeld running his own torture/black ops shop--maybe he set Goss up, to discredit/disgrace the CIA; McGovern nailing Rumsfeld; Humpty-Dumpty White House falling apart; Traitorgate--Rove indictment lurking; Iran.

See what I mean? I can't settle on anything, and I don't even know if this Goss thing is good or bad. Not sure.

Stephen Colbert is its own phenomenon, apart from the corporate news monopolies--but it is indeed causing a stir that the Bush junta utterly hates, I'm sure. But I tend to doubt that this sudden Goss departure is related to Colbert. They tried to "Friday news dump" Goss. I tend to think some big juicy scandal is about to burst upon us--probably the one we all know about, us 20% of the population who get our news from truly reliable sources. But what does it mean that the CIA director could be so stupid as to get caught with his pants down? That is the question.
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 01:58 AM
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9. Gannon. How many of these self-hating homophobes visited the Lincoln
Edited on Sat May-06-06 02:17 AM by LaPera
Bedroom... Oh good, Gannon's there...knowing very well they were going to use gay marriage to stir up the dumb for votes? They play with it and then crucify others...what kind of people are these?

I could care less if they choose to suck on rods...But, how do they look themselves in the mirror each day, knowing they are going to use the same for political gain and oppression...money is amazing, what one will do to pay ones mortgage...

As if Bush and the rest of the heteros didn't snicker, but overlooked, because of a job well done...Hmmmm!

Despicable!
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 12:17 PM
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30. As if Bush and the rest of the heteros....
I think you're making an assumption about Bush here. Just sayin'.
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kansasblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 05:07 AM
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10. excellent point about Gannon....
that should have been big but nobody cared... it was about hookers, gays and security. So what is it about Goss? Must be bigger if it's about the same topics.
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cpousnret Donating Member (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 05:10 AM
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11. i think the ties to operation 40
did him in.peace
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 05:17 AM
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12. buncha of reasons being spun
- head butting with negroponte
- not 'clicking' with bush
- too many CIA people resigning
- "he's done all he can do"
- just plain "over his head"
- FORNIgate

we do know it wasn't for health reasons or to spend more time with his family...

something else that is a bit scary - on the news last night an ex-CIA guy expressed concerns that between bush/porter/negroponte the CIA has been "FEMAed" - i.e. run into the ground so badly it's useless
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 06:21 AM
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13. Goss probably quit to run against Katherine Harris
I really think that's all this is about.

In the meantime, we at least were able to enjoy some really juicy speculation.
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 07:05 AM
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15. You've been reading the Free Republic...
I saw the same speculation being bandied about on their site. Those guys are ignorant lemmings and should be ignored. If he was running against Harris, this announcement would have come on Monday, not out of the blue on Friday. They would never have allowed speculation to run this rampant if he was running for Senate... (though even if he's a traitor, he'd still be better than Harris). They would have crafted the story and controlled it, not sent it floating out across America like a loud stinky fart. This story stinks all right, trouble is, trying to figure out who dealt it and what they ate the night before.

The thing that worries me is the fact that the MSM is reporting the specualtion on Hookergate (aka.. Watergategate). If the MSM is reporting this speculation, someone's controlling the story and wants there to be rampant speculation about Goss's character. They pulled the same shit with Michael Brown (who as we now know, was doing a "heckuva job", but was getting absolutely no support from Chertoff and Boosh. We thought he was oblivious to what was happening during Katrina, but that FEMA video he released cleared that up real fast. Too little too late, I guess). I guess it's possible that the MSM could be going their own way on this but it's highly doubtful. Thier sole job is to carry water for Chimpy and they've been loyal. No, Goss is the sacrificial lamb for something very huge and very nasty and the Adminstration is trying to get out in front of it by pretending to take care of the problem the second they found out about it. Only, you and I know, they're neck deep in whatever Goss and company was involved in.

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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 07:38 AM
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21. When I think about it more
you're right. There would have been much more hoopla about Goss wanting to run against Harris because, after all, he would be starting a political campaign to get elected. The story would have been leaked weeks ago that he was considering running for FL Senator. All the other requisite news stories would have been written and published about his political career.

Nope, you're right. Personally, I was also thinking it would be too good to be true that Goss would be that neck deep in some crap. But it surely seems so now.

Goss's job was to go in and clean out the anti-Bush element in the leadership of the CIA. I don't think Goss and Bush won that battle. It now appears to me he was run out on a rail.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 07:26 AM
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18. I think any candidate can beat Harris
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 07:01 AM
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14. Or maybe Goss doesn't want to play any more
Or he didn't get the results they wanted quick enough.
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 07:06 AM
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16. That could be it too...
Maybe he just grew tired of working for the Devil.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 07:25 AM
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17. Sorry, but no. Goss resignation is a big ding on *. You don't
try to distract from one bit of damage by damaging yourself more seriously.

I loved Colbert on Saturday night, but it's not as big as you think.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 07:30 AM
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19. Right, the Colbert thing isn't that big
I think they dealt with it sufficiently by keeping it out of the MSM; even if everyone has seen it and thinks it's great, everyone thinks no-one has seen it and everyone hates it (i'm slightly exaggerating). It's what i call "the illusion of consent". The Pentagon calls it Perception Management.
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 07:32 AM
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20. I know...
I was being facetious... :evilgrin:
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 07:42 AM
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22. LOLOL: They fired Goss to distract from Colbert????
That's Colbertesque satire there, if it was satire.

Unfortunately, I suspect that you may really believe it.
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 07:44 AM
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23. That is simply not true



And, it is absurd.

The only reason Goss quit is because he was a political liability.

The ONLY time anyone in this adminstration is sacrificed is when the reality of having them on board becomes so untenable that they are FORCED to leave.

McClellan left because he had too much of a documented history. Leak gate will explode, and he can't divorce himself from his own transcribed statements.

This is the most bizarre theory I have heard on DU.
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 07:59 AM
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24. I think the OP was being satiric.
He's doing a Colbert on everyone.....

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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 11:51 AM
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27. Let's hope so.
;)
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 12:19 PM
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31. If so, the satire breaks down with the truth about Colbert's...guts.
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 09:39 AM
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25. I think there could be more to this
Like something very BIG is coming (Rove indictment, for instance).
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 11:31 AM
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26. if not Colbert, the bears, fershure! That's the truthiness!
Nothing else makes sense!
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 12:07 PM
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28. Or maybe the CIA has a video of Katherine Harris in the buff except for
cowboy hat and boots, riding Porter bareback while whipping him with a riding crop yelling, "Giddyap, old boy".
:shrug:

But more than likely it's the hookers and corruption thing.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 10:17 AM
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35. Ah, no
Seriously, no. In no way. Nope. Nuh-uh.
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