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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 04:07 AM
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Very interesting story I encountered re: a United flight 93 passenger
According to Deena Burnett, widow of passenger Tom Burnett, both of them had premonitions about his death in a plane crash.

http://www.spiritdaily.org/Life%20in%20Christ/burnett.htm

Deena says that before September 11, both she and Tom had forebodings. "After our third daughter was born, I always had this feeling that Tom was not going to live long enough to raise our children, but I never talked to him about this," she told us. "I shared that thought with my mom right after our third daughter was born. She came into the hospital room and she said, 'Deena, I guess you'll have to have another child so Tom can have his son,' and I said, 'No, mom, God's not going to give us a son.' She said, "Why? and I said, 'Because God knows that Tom won't be here to raise the children and I couldn't raise Tom's son alone.'"

That was the first premonition. "My mother asked me what I was talking about. I don't know why I said that, but I remember feeling an incredible sense of peace, that whatever happened, everything was going to be okay. It was the week of February 24, 1998, and I also told her then that he was going to be killed in a plane crash. It just came out of my mouth without any thought, and I didn't even think of it after I said it. It was something I was very much at peace with. It was God's plan, preparing me," she adds, her voice cracking.

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Because Burnett was an outgoing, charismatic man, who was thinking of retiring early from what was already a highly successful career, he and Deena thought perhaps the premonition was that he should go into politics. People had always told him to. "That seemed like the avenue that God was calling him for," Deena says. "But something about that didn't feel right, so he continued praying and we continued with our conversations from time to time about what he thought God's plan was. And about a year before he was killed, Tom came to me and said, 'I don't know what's going to happen, but I have a feeling that you have always thought I was going to die young.' I was surprised because I never talked to him about it. I asked him why he thought that and he said, 'I don't know, but it may have something to do with God's plan for me. I'm not sure why I think that. But I need you to tell me what you think.' I just shared with him. I said, 'Well, I just always believed that we were not going to grow old together, that something was going to happen to prevent us from growing old together. One of us is going to be killed.'

"He took me seriously," says Deena. "It was a serious conversation. We knew that we had to be prepared. He went out the next day and tried to double the life insurance on both of us. This was the September before. He was able to double mine but not his because he had been diagnosed with sleep apnea earlier that year. Long story short: we just proceeded with living our lives and dreaming our dreams and working toward our goals, but having an over-riding fear that something was going to happen to one of us. My feeling was that it was going to be Tom, and Tom's feeling was that it was going to be him. He just felt that whatever God's plan was for him, it had something to do with the White House and was going to impact a lot of people."


I found this to be rather interesting, and sad.

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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 04:22 AM
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1. Here's a link to his memorial website
Edited on Sat May-06-06 04:26 AM by DoYouEverWonder
http://www.tomburnettfamilyfoundation.org/

I have to admit, I have a problem with people who wear their chrisitianity all over their sleeve. There's something a little too Todd Beamerish here.


Edit: Here's the Wikipedia version of his story. He was able to call his wife four times? Yet he had time to try to 'save' the plane with Todd Beamer?



Thomas Edward Burnett (May 29, 1963 - September 11, 2001), was the vice president and COO of a Pleasanton, California, medical devices company, Thoratec Corporation. He graduated from Thomas Jefferson High School in Bloomington, Minnesota in 1981 after leading the football team to the state semi-finals as their starting quarterback. His football jersey, # 10, is now retired at his former high school. Tom studied economics at St. John's University in Minnesota.

He died at age thirty eight in the September 11, 2001 attacks on board United Airlines flight 93. He was able to call his wife four times after the hijackers took control of the plane.

Tom and other passengers had been in communication with people via cell phones and learned that the World Trade Center had been hit using hijacked airplanes. Tom was among the passengers who decided to fight the hijackers hand-to-hand. Tom called his wife, Deena, and reportedly told her, "We're all going to die, but three of us are going to do something" and added: "I love you, honey" before the call ended. He is survived by his wife and three young daughters.
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 04:25 AM
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2. I am aware of the foundation
My son goes to the high school that Tom Burnett graduated from.
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adriennui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 06:33 AM
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6. these are the ramblings
of an understandably grief stricken widow.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 07:45 AM
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11. have you ever tried to make a call from a cell phone while in flight?
I don't think it can be done.
I call BS on this crap.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 07:58 AM
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12. I can see one or two calls to your wife
But I would more likely try 911. Hey, I love my husband dearly, but if I'm on a hijacked plane, I'd want to call an emergency # or the operator before I'd call home, because they would have a better chance of getting us help in time.

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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 08:02 AM
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13. IF it could be done, I'd call home & ask them to get out the word
and also to say good-bye--but I think it's not possible.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 08:09 AM
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14. I really can only speak for myself on that one
Edited on Sat May-06-06 08:10 AM by DoYouEverWonder
but I've always been a 'sensible' girl and I usually make good decisions in an emergency. I would be calling the operator or 911 because I'd want to try to save my own ass before thinking about saying goodbye to anyone.

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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 04:34 AM
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3. Not So Surprising, If He Had Sleep Apnea
The sounds a person makes with untreated sleep apnea are truly, truly disturbing; after all, that person *is* choking and suffocating repeatedly. Once diagnosed, the person gets the skinny on what it does and how it can kill. They may have been recasting their reactions to fit their religious outlook - or she could be making up stuff for some reason.
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 04:38 AM
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4. It is possible
but I still found the story to be very interesting.
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Kailassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 06:10 AM
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5. I've had premonitions, but I don't buy this.
Either a previous poster was right and it was his sleep apnea making her expect him to die, or she is embroidering something badly.

All this stuff about "God's will" is balls. Believing in God and heaven and having premonitions does not make a person resigned to losing someone they love. The parting of death hurts too much for that, all your instinct makes you fight it, not just accept it.

I'm afraid the embroidery makes me wonder how much else is a lie.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 06:49 AM
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7. Since I haven't seen Flight 93
Edited on Sat May-06-06 06:50 AM by DoYouEverWonder
It seems that most of the 'official story' comes from Deena Burnett.

The amazing part is how much her story has changed since 9-11.

No more mention of the bomb & guns that her husband told her about.

No more mention of the FBI getting to her house while Flight 93 was still in the air, yet fighter jets couldn't get to the plane to intercept it?

Cooperative Research has clips of all the press accounts that quoted her at the time. http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity.jsp?entity=deena_burnett

There's something funny about her and Lisa Beamer. Both are Bushbot fundies. Both of their husbands worked for companies connected to BushCo.

Somehow they are just too perfect.

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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 07:03 AM
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8. "God's plan...God's calling him"....Whatever happened to Free Will?
People like this distort reality so they can have their cake and eat it, too.

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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 07:05 AM
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9. Interesting.
I am aware of a number of very similar incidents.
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Jon8503 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 07:36 AM
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10. Anything is possible but have some reservations. N/T.
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 08:26 AM
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15. If I had a premonition I was going to die in a plane
crash I don't think I would fly. Maybe the premonition wasn't "preparing her" it was WARNING HER.



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