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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 06:10 AM
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Bush REALLY Said The Following Yesterday (JUST Saw the clip)
"Goss helped transition The Agency into the Intelligence Community."

:wtf:

TRANSITION the CIA into the INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY?

ok. i'm jumping off a bridge now
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 06:11 AM
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1. was he speaking English there?
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 06:41 AM
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9. no, he was singing in spanglish.
I know it is common for speakers these days to have someone "signing" at their side, to help the hard of hearing understand. Should we have someone special for Bush, to translate his words for the rest of us?
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 06:49 AM
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13. good idea
I nominate Mango- he's bilingual, right?



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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 07:03 AM
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15. Mango is GOD
I have never laughed so hard since that show first started as when Barf Brooks was lusting after Mango on SatNiteLive..

He does a great CHIMP by the way, love to see him imitate Bush at a Public Forum, crawling all over people, eating banannas, smashing everything, it would be all too REAL :)
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 06:15 AM
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2. Intelligence Community? As compared to what?
Bet his father (Poppy that is, not that higher father) really appreciated that assessment as he was the head of the CIA 30+ years ago.
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 06:16 AM
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3. My father worked under Poppy
he was a disaster at the agency
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 06:41 AM
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10. Thanks for that. I needed a laugh, although at the Agency's (and
our country's) expense.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 06:16 AM
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4. Hmm...
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neoblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 06:20 AM
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5. To reach GB Center for Intelligence...
(1) take the next left
(2) take the next left
(3) then turn left
(4) turn left once more
(5) (proceed from step 1 above)
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 06:24 AM
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8. Actually
if you're heading north over Waterloo Bridge you turn left and you're there. Front door faces the street believe it or not.
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neoblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 08:22 AM
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19. Actually...
You seem to be stuck in a rational world in which reality is important...

We we're referring indirectly to George Bush's "intelligence", in which we are talking taking one left after another, repeatedly, ad infinitum... (wherein turning right is equivalent). Therefore, even if you were standing before the front door, to observers, you'd be seen turning round and round (wasting time and energy and making no progress), and thus reminding everyone of why the building was named after George Bush.

Of course, if you were rational, you might actually discard Bush's instructions (4 steps and repeat), and actually go where you need to.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 09:30 AM
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20. Just mentioned it
incase you wanted to visit : http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/934937.stm
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neoblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 12:35 PM
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21. Uh...
Okay.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 06:21 AM
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6. Persactly
Presumably it's next right if you're a thicko.

Most staff use the right hand entrance :rofl:
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neoblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 06:23 AM
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7. Perhaps he meant...
Transitioned the CIA into the "new" unified intelligence community. Then again, with George Bush at the helm, the icebergs far outnumber the water molecules in the ocean.
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 06:42 AM
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11. a gated community, maybe
possibly, what junior meant was that, goss did a heckuva job putting gates around the agency, thus making it a community-he also tossed in speed bumps and ...stuff(?)
foxcnn probably has all the details.....
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Lusted4 Donating Member (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 06:47 AM
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12. Has America no shame? What an embarrassment that clown is. n/t
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 06:53 AM
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14. If you're not off the bridge yet, just look at this:


Wikipedia entry for General Hayden - the nominee to replace Goss:

<snip>
Warrantless surveillance

The NSA warrantless surveillance controversy arose when the New York Times revealed on December 16, 2005 that the agency had been eavesdropping on U.S. citizens and other people within the U.S. without seeking warrants from a special court, as ostensibly required by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.<3>

Hayden received personal criticism for his role in the controversy when he spoke at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C. on January 23, 2006 to defend the practice of warrantless surveillance. During the question and answer period following his speech, Hayden appeared to deny that a "probable cause" standard is contained in the Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution--which limits the government's ability to conduct searches and, by extension, surveillance.

Knight Ridder reporter Jonathan Landay prefaced a question by noting that "the Fourth Amendment of the Constitution specifies that you must have probable cause to be able to do a search that does not violate an American's right against unlawful searches and seizures." Hayden responded: "No, actually--the Fourth Amendment actually protects all of us against unreasonable search and seizure.... That's what it says." When Landay continued, "But does it not say probable--" Hayden said: "No. The amendment says...unreasonable search and seizure."

In fact, the amendment refers to both "unreasonable searches and seizures" and "probable cause":

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Later, responding to Landay's question, Hayden stated:

Just to be very clear--and believe me, if there's any amendment to the Constitution that employees of the National Security Agency are familiar with, it's the Fourth. And it is a reasonableness standard in the Fourth Amendment. And so what you've raised to me--and I'm not a lawyer, and don't want to become one--what you've raised to me is, in terms of quoting the Fourth Amendment, is an issue of the Constitution. The constitutional standard is "reasonable." And we believe--I am convinced that we are lawful because what it is we're doing is reasonable.

Writing up the exchange, the online magazine Editor & Publisher (January 23, 2006) wrote that Hayden "appeared to be unfamiliar with the Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution when pressed by a reporter with Knight Ridder's Washington office--despite his claims that he was actually something of an expert on it."

Later in the same question-and-answer session, author James Bamford suggested that part of the purpose of "going around the FISA law...was to lower the standard from what they call for, which is basically probable cause, to a reasonable basis; and then to take it away from a federal court judge, the FISA court judge, and hand it over to a shift supervisor at NSA."

Hayden replied, "You got most of it right," and then elaborated on the NSA decision-making process without disputing Bamford's assertion. When Bamford followed up with, "Since you lowered the standard, doesn't that decrease the protections of the U.S. citizens?" Hayden said he would not discuss the process of the decision, and then stated:

"I think you've accurately described the criteria under which this operates, and I think I at least tried to accurately describe a changed circumstance, threat to the nation, and why this approach -- limited, focused -- has been effective."
</snip>

It's going to be "take-a-number" at that bridge railing, matcom...
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 07:06 AM
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16. Bush is not a member of the INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY.
That's for damned sure!
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 07:24 AM
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17. bush proves that ANYBODY can be president.
:eyes:
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 07:28 AM
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18. So, what business was the Central INTELLIGENCE Agency into before?
He's just dangerously stupid. Another cringe moment. :grr:
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