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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 06:21 AM
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September 11th, September 11th, September 11th..
Edited on Sat May-06-06 06:22 AM by SoCalDem
George Bush's presidency BEGAN that day, and also ENDED that day. he will forever see that as his personal highlight. Sad isn't it, that the "leader of the free world" looks at a day of carnage and sorrow as his "crowning glory".. The myth of that day is smoke & mirrors when it's looked at literally..

Where WAS George ON that day? He bailed and let his handpicked flunkies "run the store"..

Who can forget the 'deer-in-headlights' look on the faces of his 'wimminfolk' who ran to microphones & cameras to reassure us all.? We had Karen Hughes making statements, and Condi-in-the blue-dress with flop-sweat oozing from every pore, stating her total ineptitude for all to see. It still amazes me that the NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER apparently was blindsided and actually HAD no idea what her job even entailed.

The cock & bull story created to make us all think that Air Force One was a target, was just that...a story. The truth was that our president was SO inept, that it took several stops along the way home to get him up to speed.

FIVE FULL YEARS LATER, September 11th is still the raison d'être for EVERYTHING they do. Every congressional hearing, every senate hearing, every news conference, every speech has to have some reference to September 11th.

It always reminds me of a child being scolded. Mom is reading the kid the riot act for some infraction, and he/she has to interrupt to remind Mom about the time they cleaned up their room without being asked, or the time they were desperately ill in the hospital. It's a distraction ploy to remind everyone how "brave" he was, and what a "good little president" he has been.

It boggles the mind to even think of all the horrific things that have occurred during the reign of King George II, and yet he still must focus on September 11th, because he and his cadre of sycophants have convinced themselves that they are blameless in that event and they behaved bravely. It was their finest moment.

It will forever remain an iconic moment in our history, but no more so than many others we have endured. A hundred years from now, who knows how many OTHER iconic moments will be added to the list? Other nations have had catastrophes, and the successful leaders have LED their people BEYOND the tragedy, and into an enlightenment. The leaders who insist on always looking back have led their people into chaos. The middle east is a classic example of this. Massacres and battles that happened 900 years before are still festering just below the surface, ready to erupt at any moment.

A country's worth is measured by how they respond to events. Things will always "happen", and to hold a country hostage to a single moment in time is to freeze that country in place.. ..in a bad place.

I almost wish that a senator/congressperson with a "Colbert-ish" sense of humor would show up at every hearing with an air horn, and every time someone uttered 9-11 or September11th, they would give that horn a blast..







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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 06:23 AM
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1. Great post, SoCal!
K&R :thumbsup:
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Chomp Donating Member (602 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 06:29 AM
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2. These are the REAL Conspiracy Theories
that I wish the people in the 9/11 forum would discuss. Not bloody drone missile and demolition squads and goddam passenger executions.

Where was Shrub?

Where was Cheney and Condi and Rummy? What were they doing?

Who was calling the shots?

Why was POTUS a sitting target (literally!) in the school for so long?

Why was Rummy fingering Iraq within hours?

Etc.


You don't need a fucking demolition squad to have a conspiracy.

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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 06:30 AM
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3. Exactly.. This group of criminals were busily plotting
Edited on Sat May-06-06 06:31 AM by SoCalDem
while they were feigning sorrow..the vilest of the vile
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 07:01 AM
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12. When people ask me how to prove MIHOP
I tell them to look at how the top leadership reacted that morning.

Every single one sat on their butts until after the Pentagon was attacked. Yet, they all admit hearing about the first plane within minutes of the crash and turned on their TV's to watch the rest of the attack. Bush, Cheney, Rummie, Myers, Jim Baker all stated that they watched the attack unfold on TV. Yet they did nothing.


Here's a thread I posted about this subject:

On 9-11, Bush wasn't the only one with glue on his butt
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=125&topic_id=24587#26729
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 06:33 AM
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4. You are so right on this. Had it not been for 9/11, Bush would
surely have been a one term president. Instead, he is able to turn one of the most disgusting public displays of incompetence into his crowning glory and "win re-election" running on a platform of fear.
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neoblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 06:34 AM
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5. At the time... I remember how the MSM kept repeating...
as if to convince themselves as much as 'condition' the people... "Everything's changed...", "From now on things will never be the same", "9/11 was a defining moment, everything will change", "This will change everything...", "America will never be the same...", "Since 9/11 happened, everything will change..." and words to that effect (and, though I don't remember the exact phrase, it was often the same one, again and again), over and over... Even after the momentary crisis, when everyone should have been calming down... the same warning--to expect changes...

Appropos notification that, although not truly necessary, our leaders at the highest level really had decided everything would change. We might have imagined they just meant that we'd have to expect increased security... little did we know they meant that Bush and his Republicans would repeal our liberties, freedoms and civil rights but also use the power to implement unrelated policy in order to destroy our country, our economy, our future, our educational system, our foreign relations, etc...

Yes, everything did change on 9/11; George W. Bush took power.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 06:41 AM
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9. There was a small window of opportunity, but no one was brave enough
Edited on Sat May-06-06 06:42 AM by SoCalDem
to use it. I do remember SOME network asking "why do they hate us", but it only lasted a brief time, and before long, all we heard was retaliation, revenge & retribution. To go off half-cocked into a perpetual war against an ethereal enemy, is a surefire way to never "win", and yet to always be "at war".

"Evil" is a concept that everyone defines differently. To ME, what we did in Central America was evil, and how we deny health care to so many is evil. People die all the time, for many reasons. they are just as dead, no matter what or who killed them.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 06:35 AM
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6. we've fallen so far, in so short amount of time, all thanks to
Edited on Sat May-06-06 06:35 AM by ixion
little lord pissypants. I think most people don't realize it (yet) because the effect is still trickling down through the culture and society. The veil of 'normalcy' continues to pervade, the most apparent factor being high gas prices at this point. Really, though, all that's left is a facade, and as soon as it begins to deteriorate, as soon as the bill comes due, you will see a more pronounced change. I think that is what it will take for those out there who still think that running around the globe invading sovereign nations on the pretext of 'fighting terror', of all things. Such is the true legacy of 911, a.k.a. the beginning of the end for the good 'ol US of A. :cry:

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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 05:45 PM
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30. If there was a real opposition party then Bush could
have been reigned in and brought down. Trouble is very few Democrats opposed the PATRIOT Act and the rush to war on Iraq. Even John Kerry, three years post 9/11 said he would hunt down the terrorists and KILL them. He sounded like Bush. He did not offer a real alternative to continued war.

Kerry also didn't challenge the election, instead he conceded the day after the election and only jumped on the fraud bandwagon after a Green filed suit to challenge Ohio's results.

Patriotism is not rubber stamping what the president wants but challenging him when he needs to be challenged.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 06:35 AM
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7. 9/11 is all the bu$h regime has had.
It is the only thing that allowed them to achieve the destruction of a democracy. Without 9/11, they would have done nothing. They would most assuredly not been able to steal the 04 election.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 06:36 AM
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8. Well he is the pretzel that stands on things. Here's to hoping the next
Edited on Sat May-06-06 06:37 AM by lonestarnot
thing is a melting glacier.:beer:
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 06:43 AM
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10. Or on an iceberg with a hungry polar bear
and he's wearing a coat made of BACON..
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 06:56 AM
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11. Ewwww yes bacon!
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 07:02 AM
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13.  blindsided and actually HAD no idea what her job even entailed.
Heckuva Job Condie. All the Bush cronies have their jobs because they are cronies, not because they can do their jobs. We have seen them ALL fail one after the other.
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Sleepless In NY Donating Member (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 07:05 AM
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14. 9/11 another Bush Failure along with Iraq & Katrina
That's what it really should remind people of....he's as imcompetent as the day is long.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 07:08 AM
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15. and she got promoted.. That just slays me
and Rumsfeld's HEADQUARTERS gets hit an HOUR after the WTC, and people actually died in the attack.. What secretary of defense allows his own hq to be hit, and having prior knowledge that something was happening, why were the people not evacuated before?

the capitol was evacuated..and the vermin in the white house headed for the bunker in the basement, and Rummy had a "business-as-usual" morning.. until he got to "play hero" and rescue some of the unfortunate ones.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 07:25 AM
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16. Iraq is a reflection of Rummy's Heckuva job.
His Neocon advisors at the Pentagon, the "Office of Special Planning" were also bush cronies and they helped Rummy with every move he made on the war in Iraq. Heckuva Job "Planning"
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 07:25 AM
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17. And we still don't have the person allegedly responsible for the attacks.
That is, of course, IF he really is responsible.

I still believe our evil Bush Administration-run government, who has done so many unbelievable things since it took office, had a part in the 9/11 attacks. It is no longer outside the realm of possibility.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 07:40 AM
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18. absolutely. Why was the S**THEAD so eager to fly the bin Ladens
out of the country while AMERICANS were grounded?
I remember on or about Sept. 12th hearing that bin Laden family members who were in the U.S. were being flown out on a special flight and was stunned.
When a crime is committed, the investigation normally begins with friends and family members of suspects, DOESN'T IT? Who knows what valuable info might have been gained by questioning those Saudis? In a "normal" situation (say, under President Clinton) those people would have been earmarked for special questioning, don't you think? Wouldn't they have been absolutely banned from leaving the country until they were cleared?
What exactly was the slimeballs' justification for this? I don't think I ever heard any. It was mentioned briefly and, like several other things, was never mentioned again until Michael Moore (bless him!) made it a major point in Fahrenheit 911. Why are people always so "polite" about this? Why does NOT ONE investigative journalist (besides MM of course) question the little shit-stain about it?
In addition, I have never heard one shred of evidence that indicates Osama bin Laden had anything to do with 9/11. We were told he did it and that was that. OBL actually denied he had anything to do with it, if you will recall.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 07:54 AM
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19. and when someone DOES bring it up...what do we hear??
"...that's OLD news....we covered it already..."..it's a no-go, and to be buried forever, but "september 11th" is a sacred mantra...
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 08:13 AM
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20. sorry, off-topic--but what does your picture mean?
I have puzzled over it and can't figure out the significance of the diamonds all over *'s jacket.
:blush:
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 08:17 AM
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21. Those are flag pins.. Can't be TOO patriotic, now can we ?
I think GOPisEvil did that photoshop..
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 09:54 AM
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24. oh! DOH--now I see that they are flags--good one!
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 09:13 AM
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22. Yeah, that pissed me off as well. Americans could go nowhere on a
plane, but the Bin Laden family could.

Bush's connection with The Carlyle Group, and its connection with OBL's family, the Saudis, it's all just a little too close for comfort in my book.

Something stinks in Washington!
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 09:45 AM
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23. It has always amazed me
that Bush got such a "bump" from 9/11. To me, it was horrific evidence of his, as well as his administration's, overwhelmung ineptitude (at the very least).
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 11:30 AM
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25. Oh man, I just visualized air horns going off in the audience every time
any of them mention 9/11. Like a gong show.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 04:45 PM
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28. It would certainly call attention to the casual way they use that day
as justification for every devious thing they plan.. I would LOVE it :)
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 12:19 PM
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26. All hell would break loose with the American public...if
they knew THE TRUTH of 9/11 and that it was LIHOP or MIHOP.

No doubt in my mind.
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Rocknrule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 02:22 PM
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27. "Give me an Xbox 360 or the terrorists win"
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 05:38 PM
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29. what??? No American Idol? you blasphemer
:P
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suegeo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-07-06 09:03 AM
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31. Shock and Awe, Part I
Shrub's biggest failure is his biggest success.

The boys in the psych ops shop are a bunch of flaming assholes.
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