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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 11:39 AM
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Winger uncovers dirt on Ray McGovern: "lunatic behavior a mile long"
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The wingnut version of mudraking is actually called "mudslinging."

http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/2006/05/time-to-smear-latest-bush-critic.html


Friday, May 05, 2006
Time to smear the latest Bush critic

Yesterday, Ray McGovern -- an American citizen with a 27-year career as a CIA analyst behind him -- stood up at a speech given by Donald Rumsfeld and aggressively questioned Rumsfeld on various statements Rumsfeld made regarding Iraq. McGovern specifically questioned Rumsfeld about this claim made in March, 2003: "We know where are. They’re in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat." We all know what happens to people, including those with a long history of government service, who publicly embarrass the administration - it's time for a nice heap of character smear.

Today, Glenn "Instapundit" Reynolds praises and links to an investigation into McGovern's "background" which was undertaken by The Gateway Pundit. Reynolds asks: "Why don't the Big Media do this kind of thing?"

What is it that Gateway Pundit's investigation revealed about McGovern that prompted Reynolds' admiration, along with his lament that "Big Media" failed to issue a similar report? To begin with, in the headlines of Gateway Pundit's post, we learn right away that McGovern is a"nutjob," as in: "Nutjob Ray McGovern Heckles Rummy."

But that revelation is just the beginning. Gateway Pundit also informs us that McGovern is a "certified nutcase" who "has a trail of lunatic behavior a mile long." G.P. also uncovered evidence conclusively demonstrating that McGovern is a "moonbat." I agree with Instapundit- what right does the MSM have to keep this important information from us?...


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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 11:40 AM
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1. YAY! McGovern's a moonbat!!!!!
Yippee!!!

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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 11:41 AM
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2. What an idiot.
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KyuzoGator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 11:41 AM
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3. That's positively Fristian diagnosis.
What a remarkable cosmic coincidence that every human being on Earth who vocally opposes the Bush administration is a lunatic.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 12:00 PM
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9. No doubt made by a careful examination of the video!!!!
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 11:45 AM
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4. More wingnut whackjobs than you can shake a stick at.
Don't they realize the more they throw that "moonbat" word around, the harder we laugh at them?
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 11:48 AM
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5. What the Hell is a 'moonbat'?
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 11:49 AM
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6. Derisive freeper term for us.
Personally, I like it.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 12:59 PM
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16. I like it, too.
Love,

MoonBatJen
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mojowork_n Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 12:13 PM
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13. Moonbat etymology + a question
I found it, or at least I a found an interesting discussion of the word's possible origins, at this site:

http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2006/02/moonbat_callout.html


The two most interesting hypotheses:

Moon "lunar" ~ "lunatic" + Bat as in "Batty", making it the sort of limp, halting redundancy so favored by the right-tards,

and

a corruption of the last name of George Monbiot, who just happens to be one of my favorite writers/investigative journalists. A really good guy, who does a weekly column for "The Guardian"...

In any event, moonbat's apparently been adopted by right-tards everywhere, making it sort of the antithesis of a "wingnut."

.... But on a totally different note, as long as I'm in here, can anyone tell me how to send a submission to the D.U. Top Ten Idiots list? I ran into this yesterday, from another fearless source:

html://www.waynemadsenreport.com

From May 3rd:

King George's Stamp Tax:

"...According to US Postal Service insiders, the Bush administration, which has prided itself on tax cuts, has imposed a stealth war tax on the American people. In January, the Postal Rate Commission approved a raise in first class postage two cents to 39 cents. The commission has now indicated it wants to raise the price of a first class stamp by three cents to 42 cents next year. The reason for the Bush stamp tax is that when the Bush administration took power in 2001, the Postal Service Fund, a special account established within the Treasury Department, had a substantial surplus. However, in order to pay for its Iraq war adventure, the Bush administration raided the Postal Service Fund and created a deficit. The two successive rate increases have been necessary in order to replenish the fund, according to Postal Service sources. In addition to the Postal Service Fund, the misappropriation of money for the war has also adversely affected the Postal Employees' Compensation Fund, the solvency for which is guaranteed by the Postal Service Fund.

The Postal Rate Commission is a gaggle of GOP hacks. The two-term chairman is Mississippian George Omas, a former House of Representatives employee and a member of the National Republican Club of Capitol Hill. The Vice Chairman is Dawn Tisdale, a former postmaster of Smithville, Texas. Another commissioner is Tony Hammond, the 1998 director of campaign operations for the Republican National Committee and an assistant to then RNC chair Haley Barbour. Danny Covington, a one-time GOP House candidate whose term expired in October 2005, and Omas areboth Ole Miss graduates and represent a GOP clique beholden to Barbour and Senator Trent Lott...."

WayneMadsenReport also has some great stuff on the Capitol Hill Police, as well as *very deserved* criticsm of D.U.'ers (for ignoring the burden of proof and piling on Rep. Pat Kennedy, right along with all of the gleeful right-tards.)

Bringing things full circle, there's also a great profile of the Carlyle Group-sponsoring institution at which Ray McGovern challenged VonRumsfield.
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greenman3610 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 11:54 AM
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7. right. A nutjob that used to give PDBs
to Bush senior.
sure, that kind of nutjob.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 11:55 AM
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8. Feedback from the backwash
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 12:04 PM
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10. In other words, "I'M not crazy -- YOU'RE the one that's crazy!"
:crazy:

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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 12:12 PM
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11. W gets messages from God
And the rest of us are crazy!

If that's how they want to divide us, it's ok by me! heh!

Funny how they think they can SwiftBoat this guy when everyone KNOWS Rummy said those things. We have tapes; we have transcripts. Yet the guy is nuts. Right.

I'm going to believe my lying eyes and ears, thank you very much.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 12:12 PM
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12. I've worked in mental hospitals
and one thing the truly insane all share is the conviction that they are perfectly sane and that the rest of us who can't hear the voices or see the angels and demons must be somehow insane.

When some wingnut calls a person insane, you can bet that's an indication of the target's sanity, respectability and veracity.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 12:34 PM
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14. Have you read the accusation? It's typical stuff.
They're trying to paint McGovern first as a "nutjob" because of an allegation that he's anti-Semitic that comes from another second-source. The "anti-Semitism" appears to be "supported" by the common observation that many neo-Cons are strong supporters of the Israeli right-wing. It's like saying that Bill Clinton was anti-Semitic because he had one of his têtes-à-tête with Monica Lewinsky on a Friday evening.

None of it is verifiable. It's simply defamation.

I expect that kind of bullshit from the run-of-the-mill wingnut bloggers, not Glenn Reynolds.

Incidentally, a number of the righties seem to think that Mr. Olbermann spells his first name "Kieth".

They're desperate ... not serious.

--p!
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 12:51 PM
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15. nor 'series'.
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