your government is recording, storing, all your phone conversations

[lukery]

In feb, larisa got a heads-up on an interview with Risen, O'Harrow and Time Russert and asked DU'ers to live-blog it - looking for certain elements. see http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x520607">here and
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x521016">here

the interview was never transcribed - so i've done it.

your government is downloading and permanently storing, and retroactively searching all phone & email communications.

More:
"(The Matrix can) take the scrap of a license plate, a gender, skin color, hair color - and you could place those things in, with maybe a zipcode - and you could find a list of people who fit exactly that qualification. People who saw this system in operation - intelligence officials, law enforcement folks - said that it literally blew them away - how fast it could pick up the right people - but their neighbours, their photographs - whatever was entered into the system, it could retrieve it instantly"

General "Fourth Amendment" Hayden did this - let's make sure it's an issue at his confirmation hearings.

the transcript is here
http://wotisitgood4.blogspot.com/2006/05/spying-hayden-risen-oharrow-russert.html

As always, it's worse than you thought.

[MadHound]

1. This is nothing new, it's been going on for ten years or more

Echelon and Carnivore are two of many domestic spying programs that have been around for a long while. Both work in essentially the same way, recording each and every scrap of electronically transmitte communication, and scanning each and every one in real time for certain words and phrases, such as jihad, bomb, coke, kilo, etc. etc. Originally part of the war on drugs, these acres upon acres of computers that make up these spying arrays are now being increasingly used to ferret out "terrorists" or simply people who are dissatisfied with this administration.

[mia]

2. Thanks for posting this.

Russert: Robert's book begins with this, James Risen, "Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasions of their liberty by evil minded rulers. They greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal - well meaning but without understanding." Justice Lewis Brandeis.

Risen: I think that's a great quote - and it goes right to the heart of all of the things that we now know about what the Bush administration has been doing since 911. Not just surveillance, but in terms of detentions and secret prisons around the world. I think all of these things were done with the best of intentions. Five years after 911, it's time for us as a country to debate how permanent we want this kind of post-911 security regime.

Russert: James Risen, State of War, Robert O'Harrow Jnr, No Place to Hide - Thank you for a very interesting, sobering and - haunting - conversation. I think a lot of people will be thinking about this for a long time to come. Thanks a lot.


Very good interview. The ending , as always, sums it up.

[no_hypocrisy]

3. It's similar to the East Germans dealing with STASI. They had to go to

the proverbial corn field to have private conversations, free from government recording.

[izzie]

4. I hope they get as sick as I about my bad sewer system.

If I get another call on that, my morg. or a free vacation I will scream. I tend to just let the PC stay on and keep the phone calls out.

[peacetalksforall]

5. Makes we wonder if the websites that charge fees to find people are

side businesses of thess Poindexter people - with or without government sanction.

Government sanction - now that's a laugh. We are the people - and we elect people to represent us and we pay people to work for us. So we are the government. Now I didn't authorize anyone to break me down into i/o's for their pleasure and proft. Did you?

We are turning into a technie nazi-facist-military-corporate-dictatorhip.

Their ain't no freedom in the U.S. - thanks to PNAC-the barons-the military.

[pnwmom]

6. This IS new in its details. Thank you!