Bizarre statement from Lindsey Graham during Mrs Alito's breakdown

[DoYouEverWonder]

During Mrs. Alito's 'breakdown' earlier, Lindsey Graham started out by flaming the Dems say that unnamed 'dems' were calling Alito a bigot. But he knew Alito wasn't a bigot.... All the while Mrs. Alito is losing control.

Then in the middle of all this, Graham starts talking about receiving Campaign money from people that they would have no way to know the money was bad. And that they couldn't possibly be held responsible for taking this money. Then he switched gears again and went back to the original train of thought. I'll look for a transcript but it was totally bizarre.

[AlCzervik]

1. he actually seemed drunk yesterday so who knows, maybe he had a few

in him and it liberated some truth.

[flordehinojos]

10. lindsay graham, i heard once, is the son or grandson of bar owners.

it seems alcohol has been a part of his--at least through his family's business--and that is why i have no difficulty believing that he may have been plastered yesterday or today.

[AlCzervik]

13. i'm waiting for him to slip and finally come out of the closet.

he'd much happier and he'd be a far better senator.

[flordehinojos]

15. Yes!

[Lusted4]

20. I was thinking the same thing. Lindsey it's ok. Let it go, Let it go. n/t

[tularetom]

2. Maybe he's involved in the Jackoff scandal

and maybe tomorrow the mean Democrats can make him cry too. From the looks of him to wouldn't be too hard, he looks like a girly man anyway.

[vicman]

11. It sounds better to me

to call it the "Jackemoff" scandal. Appropriate syllables and gets to the point of what was going on.

[bbinacan]

3. The link to the

video is http://www.cnn.com/

[Island Blue]

19. Thanks for posting the link.

I missed it live. That was a truly bizarre. Not only were Graham's comments bizarre (what the hell?) but it was also bizarre that Mrs. Alito at first smiled when Graham said the word bigot. It took her a second to realize that "bigot" was her cue to cry. Very strange.

[helderheid]

38. yea, she kinda did a scoff/laugh that turned into waterworks.

[flordehinojos]

4. oh, i missed that. how did mrs. alito lose control ???

i am not sure what to make of the smile she had on her face all day long!

[Eric J in MN]

8. She cried and left the hearing room and came back smiling (nt)

nt

[NVMojo]

5. oh, please, let him be involved! No wonder they want to give us an

Alito enema! Too many of them are Guilty!!!!

[TomInTib]

6. I could not believe my ears when I heard him say that. I thought my TV

had changed channels to some Wolfie or tweety crap.

I am glad someone else heard that.

Totally off the track.

[DoYouEverWonder]

17. So Graham makes sure this is the clip that gets instant replay

and while it runs and no one is listening to him, he plants his subliminal message that he is innocent of taking tainted money. Nice psy op.

[FreedomAngel82]

33. Oh wow

Send to Feingold and Kennedy.

[CTyankee]

7. What a set up!

This was a dramatized thing entirely. She took her cue and manufactured her tears. What a fake deal this was.

It figures: with W's fake ranch, fake accent, and fake turkey this fits real well.

Drama queen needs acting lessons. Let's send her Kleenex!

[DoYouEverWonder]

9. Here's the transcript

GRAHAM: If you don't mind the suspicious nature that I have is that you may be saying that because you want to get on the Supreme Court; that you're disavowing this now because it doesn't look good.

And really what I would look at to believe you're not -- and I'm going to be very honest with you -- is: How have you lived your life? Are you really a closet bigot?

ALITO: I'm not any kind of a bigot, I'm not.

GRAHAM: No, sir, you're not. And you know why I believe that? Not because you just said it -- but that's a good enough reason, because you seem to be a decent, honorable man. I have got reams of quotes from people who have worked with you, African American judges -- I've lost my quotes.

Judge Higginbotham -- I don't know where they're at. But glowing quotes about who you are, the way you've lived your life; law clerks, men and women, black and white, your colleagues who say that Sam Alito, whether I agree with him or not, is a really good man.

You know why I believe you when you say that you disavow those quotes? Because the way you have lived your life and the way you and your wife are raising your children.

Let me tell you this: Guilt by association is going to drive good men and women away from wanting to sit where you're sitting. And we're going to go through a bit of this ourselves as congressmen and senators.

People are going to take a fact that we got a campaign donation from somebody who's found out to be a little different than we thought they were -- and our political opponent's going to say, "Aha, I got you!"

And we're going to say, "Wait a minute. I didn't know that. I didn't take the money for that reason."

And you know what? I'm going to believe these senators and congressmen for the most part, because that's the way we do our business. We meet people here every day. We have photos taken with people -- and sometimes you wish you didn't have your photo taken.

But that doesn't mean that you're a bad person because of that association.

Judge Alito, I am sorry that you've had to go through this. I am sorry that your family has had to sit here and listen to this.

Now let's talk about another time not so long ago -- and another judge and some of her writings -- and see if the Senate is changing for the better or for the worse.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/11/AR2006011101674.html?sub=AR


Wow Lindsey, projecting a little guilt here are we?

[txindy]

21. Well, I'll say.

Graham stinks from here. The stench of guilt is overpowering.

[CornField]

25. That's when I thought Graham was going to cry

When he was saying the last two bold lines in the transcript you quoted above... "Judge Alito, I am sorry that you've had to go through this. I am sorry that your family has had to sit here and listen to this." I swear the guy was tearing up. Maybe he's the one - with his emotional display - that set off Martha-Ann?

[spanone]

26. Graham made a joke about Abramoff yesterday.

When Alito said he couldn't remember being a part of the Alumni group from Princeton Graham joked (supposedly) that he hoped the judge would accept that if they came before him and couldn't remember Abramoff.

[Joanne98]

29. Yeah and it's on tape!

[DoYouEverWonder]

31. Good catch - Lindsey is making bizarre comments all over the place

SPECTER: Senator Feingold?

FEINGOLD: Mr. Chairman, I'm curious if this isn't a situation where he felt the need to recuse himself, why he would have put Vanguard on the list as something he should recuse himself from after the fact.

HATCH: Because he was mistaken. That's why.

SPECTER: All right, we're going move on now. I think that this slight exchange is permissible as an exception to our general rules. It livens up the afternoon.

(LAUGHTER)

HATCH: I want my two minutes back.

SPECTER: Anything at about 5:30 in the afternoon is welcome.

LEAHY: The chairman was disturbed by my snoring over here.

(LAUGHTER)

SPECTER: Senator Graham?

GRAHAM: Hello?

(LAUGHTER)

ALITO: Hello, Senator.

GRAHAM: That was an interesting exchange.

GRAHAM: I guess there's no rule against beating a dead horse, or we'd all have quit a long time ago.

(LAUGHTER)

So in the next 30 minutes, I'm going to ask you the same questions you've been asked for a whole day.

(LAUGHTER)

And I hope you'll understand if any us come before a court and we can't remember Abramoff, you will tend to believe us.

(LAUGHTER)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/10/AR2006011001418.html


Wow, we need to save that one for future reference. That is so damning.

[MelissaB]

34. Thanks for posting this. I've missed the hearings

because of work. Interesting...

[FreedomAngel82]

35. Could he be talking about Jack Abramoff??

[Surya Gayatri]

12. That was a truly

bizarre "stream of consciousness" moment. Sort of like a verbal maze--had no idea where it might come out. SG

[TahitiNut]

14. Planned and scripted melodrama: Victim, Rescuer, Villain.

Point the finger at the "Villains" and have the "Victim" break into tears. It's a trial prosecutor's oldest ploy - and Graham is a trial prosecutor. The "jury" completely ignores the fact that nobody called Alito a bigot. Nobody. Facts get washed away in the knee-jerk reaction.

This was scripted and planned. No. Doubt. About. It.

[CornField]

16. I was walking by the television at some point & I thought Graham was

about to cry himself. It was just really, really weird.

[oasis]

18. It's part of the "See how the mean Democrats pile on" campaign. The GOP

has hopes of painting Dems as a bunch of sharks ready to pounce on Bush/Repubs for the slightest infraction. Rove and company will get plenty of help from the so-called "liberal media" in persuading the public to view Dems and Repugs equally.

[BrotherBuzz]

22. He used the 'Guilt by Association', a Logical fallacy

Guilt by Association

Alias:
Bad Company Fallacy
The Company that You Keep Fallacy

Type: Red Herring

Guilt by Association is the attempt to discredit an idea based upon disfavored people or groups associated with it. This is the reverse of an Appeal to Misleading Authority, and might be justly called "Appeal to Anti-Authority". An argument to authority argues in favor of an idea based upon associating an authority figure with the idea, whereas Guilt by Association argues against an idea based upon associating it with disreputable people or groups.

Methinks Graham has some unresolved issues that are just about to be exposed!!!... :rofl:

[DoYouEverWonder]

23. He douth protest too much

it seems.

[txindy]

24. His description of Abramoff is very telling, I think

"...somebody who's found out to be a little different than we thought they were..."

Makes Jack sound like he's shorter or maybe not as bright as Graham had originally thought. Not that Jack's a lying, thieving fraud who calls Native Americans "troglodytes", finances sniper schools in Israel, and is tied in to a mob killing.

Lindsay has a big problem on the horizon, it seems. The Abramoff investigation just got even more interesting.

[BlueStateGirl]

27. He's just trying to cover Republican ass by saying that they didn't

know Jack Abramoff was a filthy scumbag, so they shouldn't be tarnished by taking his money. Says he doesn't believe in guilt by association.

I can't wait til Jack starts naming names.

[FreedomAngel82]

36. That's a good point

"Oh I didn't know!" :eyes:

[sendero]

28. Lindsay Graham..

.... is a punkass douchebag. Of all the douchebags blathering at the hearings, he's the one who makes me want to punch my radio.

:banghead:

[MelissaB]

30. Nominated! I was just looking to see if this had been posted.

I couldn't believe what I heard when watching the CNN clip. :grr:

[DoYouEverWonder]

32. Check out the Abramoff comment from yesterday

I posted the transcript up above.

[DemonFighterLives]

37. K and R

There is a lot uncovered in this thread. Graham is goofy as a 3$ bill. His ""rants"" are nearly impossible to follow and his cueing up the cry in your beer music just when Mrs.Alito started to wipe her face.
There was no respectable reason for her to break down at that point. I mean Graham came to his defense, but come on, the democrats weren't that rough on him. If the guy joined a freeper group- there had to be a reason and he boasted about it in his resume to Raygun. He put that in the resume because it shows that he stuck up for the old boys network.

I checked my handy dandy table on Abramoff donations and Graham's name does not appear. There must be something - something.

In his rant yesterday he dropped his veil of a humane person and sounded like a mad killer and torture enabler.
:silly: