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Mon May-08-06 07:59 PM
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The White House becomes a lock for the Dems for the next 16 years.
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Mon May-08-06 08:03 PM
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1. i can't imagine Kerry accepting.......eom |
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Tue May-09-06 06:50 AM
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Gore ran for president, and accepted the Veep job.
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Tue May-09-06 04:51 PM
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I think Kerry will run for President, and that is all. Just my opinion.
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Mon May-08-06 08:04 PM
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2. i have to add: I wish it were true, though................eom |
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Mon May-08-06 08:05 PM
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Mon May-08-06 08:27 PM
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Mon May-08-06 08:39 PM
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12. I voted for Al in 2000... |
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...against my better judgement at the time, but he has improved since then, and I'd be happy to vote for him again-- EXCEPT if he runs with either Clark or Clinton. Wesley Clark is an absolute deal breaker for me-- I'm so opposed to electing career militarists to head civilian gov't that I would sit out the election at a minimum, vote for a third party candidate most likely, but I'd even consider voting republican FOR THE FIRST AND LIKELY ONLY TIME IN MY LIFE to defeat a retired general. Hillary-- well, I'd just vote Green, no worries, but keeping generals out of the White House is even more important than keeping republicans out, IMO.
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Mon May-08-06 08:42 PM
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13. You would vote for a rethug? Why not just sit out instead of aiding the |
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Mon May-08-06 08:51 PM
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17. there are different shades of enemy... |
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...and as I said in my response, just about the only thing I fear more than republicans in power is generals in power. Keep this in perspective-- I was not expressing confidence in republicans, just saying that I'd consider voting for the dark side to keep an even worse prospect out of the White House. I can't over-state my aversion to the idea of putting a general in charge of civilian government. I might feel differently about Clark-- he might prove to be the exception-- if he serves as a senator, or as a governor first. But moving ANY general directly to the head of civilian government-- never.
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Mon May-08-06 10:27 PM
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25. I agree with you in regards to the military brass taking over. |
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In the case of Clake, I don't see him as a military threat. He has a reasonable approach to political issues beyond blowing shit up.
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Mon May-08-06 10:47 PM
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27. Yeah, That's A Brilliant Plan |
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sit out or vote Green because you don't like the running mate
no wonder we lost if people think like that, you might just as well hand it to the repugnant ones to finish off the slaughter
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Tue May-09-06 05:07 PM
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41. Yup. One or the other. nt |
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Mon May-08-06 08:06 PM
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4. Why would Kerry take VP? |
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It serves no purpose for him. (1000 posts yay!)
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Mon May-08-06 08:12 PM
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6. Hmmm...maybe he would take veep. |
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If it ensures the Dems take our house back and we get on with the business of getting this country back on track.
Maybe?
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Mon May-08-06 08:14 PM
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7. He is more influential |
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in the Senate (as a Senator) than if he was VP.
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Tue May-09-06 04:55 AM
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I must be missing your point somehow, or you MUST mean Kerry specifically and not Senators in general, otherwise, why the unholy fk is CHENEY still Dr-Evilling his way around the place?
(mental image of Kerry/Cheney with respective green/red lightsabers) (sigh)
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Tue May-09-06 05:05 PM
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Mon May-08-06 08:06 PM
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5. Gore passed Kerry up in 2000 in favor of Lieberman. |
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I don't think either of these guys is aiming for the vice presidency.
It would make a formidable ticket, but I think they're both top-slotters this time around.
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Mon May-08-06 08:27 PM
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10. I think Gore's learned his lesson; he'll pick a progressive like Conyers |
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Mon May-08-06 08:45 PM
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14. Yep - Al doesnt have to hide his progressive-ness anymore... |
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I always thought - as a candidate in 2000 - that Gore was not being himself...pretending that he wasnt a progressive...
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Mon May-08-06 08:55 PM
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20. Hi, electropop. Yes -- I think Joe Lieberman will definitely not be |
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on Al's shortlist if Gore gets the nomination.
Likely a progressive. I agree.
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Mon May-08-06 08:47 PM
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15. that was one of the worst mistakes Gore made... |
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...and subsequent events have proven it, so I presume Al would pay more attention to that sort of thing in the future. Putting Lieberman on the ticket as a "moral" sop for the republicans was a huge tactical error, IMO. I can't imagine that Gore would make that error again.
I agree with you that neither Gore nor Kerry would consider running as anyone elses VP. Personally, I believe that Kerry lost the election in 2004-- even if the result was marginal, and electoral fraud remains a possibility, the democratic challenger ran against the worst president in American history for crying out loud, and should have left him in the dust. Kerry failed, purely and simply. Gore on the other hand is not so clear cut-- it was a very different time and a different race. I could see Gore running again, but not Kerry.
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Mon May-08-06 08:57 PM
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22. I think both Gore and Kerry were elected president, and I believe |
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Bush-Cheney cheated.
If these two guys run in 2008, I figure they're both interested in the top job and unlikely to take a veep nomination, but that's just my guess.
It would be a great post to speculate on who Gore might choose as his vp nominee if he gets the nomination.
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Mon May-08-06 08:26 PM
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8. should/could have been this in 2000! eom |
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Mon May-08-06 08:33 PM
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11. Hmm. I'm partial to the Uncle Jesse/Man-At-Arms ticket. |
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Mon May-08-06 08:53 PM
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18. What? Man-At-Arms would never run with Uncle Jesse! |
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Man-At-Arms retired from his seat in 2004, and now sees himself more as a kingmaker, judging by all the fundraising he did for Magnum P.I.'s Senate run in Virginia.
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Mon May-08-06 08:49 PM
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16. Poetic Justice. I have been saying this for a while |
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because the nation deserves it!
I think Kerry would take VP in this situation and wait for his turn as Pres.
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Mon May-08-06 08:54 PM
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and short of that, if Gore were elected, I can see Kerry as Sec of State. I think that might be a position that he would do well in too.
Actually, I can see almost all of the dem contenders for 2004 in the cabinet somewhere. What a team that could be!
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Mon May-08-06 08:57 PM
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21. That would be among my first choices eom |
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Mon May-08-06 08:59 PM
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23. If it is Gore...the VP slot will make or break the ticket... |
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Moreso than ever before...
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Mon May-08-06 10:56 PM
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29. ...because of the Lieberman factor last time? |
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Mon May-08-06 09:01 PM
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24. Let Kerry Lead the fight from the Senate..where we need him. |
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Kerry voted for the war. He cannot deny that. No matter what he says, no matter how he was duped, that vote is on record and will ALWAYS undermine his credibility when he crits the Bush** admin. That will always be a big liability for him/us.
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Mon May-08-06 10:30 PM
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26. Kerry is as interested in a VP slot as Wes Clark. |
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In other words, it ain't gonna happen in this universe.
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Mon May-08-06 10:55 PM
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28. Well now, remember the last primaries (and also consider |
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that no one is running yet). It was common for posters around here to say that so-and-so would NEVER take a VP slot, but after Kerry was nominated, there were quite a few who hoped that these same people would be chosen for that slot. It's amazing and admirable that people will take on responsibility if called on to do so. John Edwards is a perfect example, and I'd be willing to bet that others who ran in the primary would answer the same kind of call.
So we can never say never, as they say, because we just don't know. We don't even know who will run yet.
We do know about 2006, and that's looking good! :toast:
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Mon May-08-06 10:59 PM
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30. i wnat kerry, though would easily vote gore/kerry. or clark, edwards |
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dean, feingold
but my heart is on kerry
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Tue May-09-06 05:21 AM
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32. Two Wrongs Don't Make a Right |
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Thank you for writing the Republicans' campaign slogans for them.
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Tue May-09-06 06:36 AM
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35. That's clever, but Gore won and Kerry probably did. |
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Don't forget the election fraud that occurred in both instances.
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Tue May-09-06 05:29 AM
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Tue May-09-06 05:32 AM
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34. Assuming it's Gore and some Kerry other than the Senator from MA... |
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Tue May-09-06 04:53 PM
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39. Feingold/Kerry or Feingold/Gore would be just fine with me |
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We need a streetfighter President to show the VP how things get done in DC.
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Tue May-09-06 05:12 PM
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42. Is that the best we've got? |
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Don't get me wrong, they've both been progressively more vocal and less seemingly pandering to the right, but even with the image-jobs, don't they still seem kinda mediocre? (*ducks assault from Gore and Kerry lovers*)
I'm serious, are they the best we can do, and what makes anyone think we can take 2008 with them?
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Tue May-09-06 05:56 PM
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44. I like Gore but think we should then have a new face for #2 |
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