BurtWorm
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Tue May-09-06 02:47 AM
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Bush compares self to George Washington and Abraham Lincoln |
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Edited on Tue May-09-06 03:02 AM by BurtWorm
unconsciously (of course) revealing his simple mind and keen interest in his own low poll numbers. From the transcript of his interview with BILD TV. http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/05/20060507-2.htmlThat's George Washington, the first President, of course. The interesting thing about him is that I read three -- three or four books about him last year. Isn't that interesting? People say, so what? Well, here's the "so what." You never know what your history is going to be like until long after you're gone. If they're still analyzing the presidency of George Washington -- (laughter.) So Presidents shouldn't worry about the history. You just can't. You do what you think is right, and if you're thinking big enough, that history will eventually prove you right or wrong. But you won't know in the short-term.
Lincoln -- this is the place on the Oval Office wall where the President puts the most -- the best President, and I put Lincoln here, and I don't think there's any question -- now, people will have their -- but I think he was the most influential President ever. And the reason why is because that in the midst of a difficult presidency, needless to say -- the Civil War, thousands of people dying, with Americans killing Americans -- he had a vision of a United States. It's conceivable this country would have ended up being two countries had he not had a clear vision, even though all around him was seemingly falling apart. He was a great President.
That's called, "A Charge To Keep," based upon a religious hymn. The hymn talks about serving God. The President's job is never to promote a religion. The great thing about America -- and Germany, for that matter -- is that you should be able to worship freely. I like to tell people, you're equally American whether you're a Jew, Muslim, Christian, or Atheist -- you're equally all Americans -- and that if we ever lose that, we begin to look like the Taliban. Incidentally, Bush also starts this interview with his infamously inane "Laura picked the rug" anecdote: I'll give you a quick tour before our interview. So, the first thing that a President does, which I didn't realize, was pick a rug. I have no idea about rugs. And so in this job you've got to delegate. The American President is in a position where there's just unbelievable complexities to the job -- Darfur, Iran -- a whole lot of issues. So I delegated the decision about the rug to my wife.
The second thing a President has got to do is have a strategic mind. In order to be successful, in my judgment, as the President, you've got to constantly think strategically. And so I said to her, you pick out the colors, you be the tactical person, but I want it to say "optimistic person." That's all I wanted it to say. Here is the result. Isn't it beautiful?
Q Yes, it is very beautiful.
THE PRESIDENT: There's a sense of optimism when you come in here. And there's a reason why. You cannot lead people unless you're optimistic about what you're doing. You've got to believe it in your very soul. One of the interesting things about the presidency is people watch me like a hawk. They're looking at my moves. And if I'm going to be ringing my hands and if I'm all worried about the decisions I make are not going to lead to a better tomorrow, they'll figure it out.
And so when you talk to me today, I just want you to know I not only strongly believe in the decisions I make, I'm optimistic that they're going to work -- very optimistic.
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Tue May-09-06 02:52 AM
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1. He is lying again. Reading 3-4 books |
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This is probably the only book on George Washington which Bush has only read. Bush only has a vision of destruction.
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Tue May-09-06 03:00 AM
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3. Depends what the meaning of 'read' is |
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I picture him, like Butthead, looking at the pages and saying,"Words, words, words." Maybe that's his idea of reading. :P
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Tue May-09-06 02:59 AM
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2. I'm eager to know when the president's remarks will be translated |
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Tue May-09-06 05:47 AM
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is he an ignorant buffoon or what? His mind doesn't seem to stay focused on one particular idea. There's so much empty space in his head things just bounce around and come out haphazardly at the strangest times.
I can't wait until we have a President we can all be proud of again. I'm sick of having this moron represent the people of our country. Everyone in the world must think we're a nation of complete idiots.
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Tue May-09-06 05:50 AM
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13. Hi, ClintonTyree. You said it. I want so much to be proud of my |
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president and vice president. And of course, that's not about to happen with Dubya and Dick.
Bush's sentences are positively Cubist. He must be on hog tranquilizer.
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Tue May-09-06 06:40 AM
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16. Reminds me of that old physics scenario |
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where they use Ping Pong balls and mousetraps to show molecular motion or Chaos or something like that..
a head filled with rat traps and ping pong balls, yeah, that about says it all.. :)
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Tue May-09-06 07:53 AM
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21. yes, our standing in the world has been completely |
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tarnished by bush. We have alot of work to do to regain the trust of our neighbors again, but it does not look good at this time.
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Tue May-09-06 03:02 AM
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4. You'd think that Monkey Boy would know... |
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...that Washington wasn't the first President. That honor fell to John Hanson ( http://www.marshallhall.org/hanson.html), who was appointed by Congress in November 1781. You'd think Dubyah would know all about Presidents who are appointed rather than elected.
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Tue May-09-06 03:13 AM
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interesting link. Thanks. Yes, that pretty much is forgotten history. Most American's hardly know of the Articles of COnfederation. Our books are in transit right now. Be interesting to see how those early seven president's managed to find the authority to do anything... WOuld it not be great if Monkey Boy, had even the intelligence of any of those seven. I thought I had remembered those early positions were mostly titular in nature, without power.
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Tue May-09-06 03:21 AM
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6. Well, technically speaking, the United States didn't even exist in 1781 |
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In November 1781, the 13 colonies had just won independence from England the month before and were essentially 13 independent states. The United States didn't actually come into existence until September 17, 1787, when the Constitution was ratified. George Washington was the first person to officially serve as President of the United States of America.
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Tue May-09-06 03:31 AM
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7. True, it can be argued that the country that.... |
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...existed under the Articles of Confederation was a different United States to the one that was created by the Constitution.
But a case can also be made that both the Articles and the Constitution were attempts to create a foundation for the governance of the same country: The United States of America. As Article I says: "The Stile of this Confederacy shall be "The United States of America."
In that case, Hanson was indeed the first President of the United States.
Also, since Dubyah thinks the Constitution is just "a goddamn piece of paper," I doubt that he regards it as a legitimate starting point for our country. Maybe he'd like the Articles better ;)
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Tue May-09-06 03:33 AM
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8. There are Presider Presidents and... Decider Presidents. |
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No, really! Those other guys were Presidents of the United States in Congress Assembled. They were not permitted to issue edicts independently of the Congress. The Constitutional Presidents are the chief executives, and are expected to act independently (but also under the oversight) of Congress. Same word, different meaning. Sorta like the difference between a Kentucky Colonel and an an http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonel">Army Colonel. You know, one can secretly imprison and torture the other.
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Tue May-09-06 03:37 AM
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9. Yes, that's an important distinction... |
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...although I'm beginning to feel nostalgic for 'presider' Presidents. This 'decider' fad is definitely for the birds.
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Tue May-09-06 07:09 AM
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17. Well some were that... |
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Edited on Tue May-09-06 07:10 AM by MessiahRp
There were some that served under that title before the Articles passed. There were others who served after wards. Once the Articles of Confederation passed the ten who served did act as the President of the United States, even if their powers were dramatically weaker than what Washington was granted under the Constitution.
So I guess we can call Bush 53.....
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Tue May-09-06 03:44 AM
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10. Alarms going off in my head...... |
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Lincoln -- And the reason why is because that in the midst of a difficult presidency, needless to say -- the Civil War, thousands of people dying, with Americans killing Americans -- he had a vision of a United States. (snip) even though all around him was seemingly falling apart. He was a great President.
If anyone else (like a sane person) said this, it would be considered an opinion of a president, an observation of how history played out. With Bu*h saying it, it's real scary to me.
Then to the YELLOW RUG STORY and his optimism "room"
And so when you talk to me today, I just want you to know I not only strongly believe in the decisions I make, I'm optimistic that they're going to work -- very optimistic.
You can be a great President with people, "Americans" dying all around you, everything falling apart and be optimistic your decisions are working....
NOT GOOD.
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Tue May-09-06 07:59 AM
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22. I agree it does not sound good at all |
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it is like bush is saying people could be killing other people but you still can be a great president? doesn't sound really sick, bush is seriously delusional.
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Tue May-09-06 05:14 AM
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11. Easy comparison to make |
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Washington and Lincoln are both dead and buried : El Chimpo is brain dead and his demise is eagerly awaited.
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Tue May-09-06 06:16 AM
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14. Huh?? What does he mean by freedom of religion in Germany? |
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"The great thing about America -- and Germany, for that matter -- is that you should be able to worship freely."
Where did the thing about Germany come from?
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Tue May-09-06 06:21 AM
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This was the interview for German television that the "perch" remark came from.
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Tue May-09-06 07:21 AM
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18. Actually it was in a newspaper (tabloid) |
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Edited on Tue May-09-06 07:24 AM by Kellanved
He did two interviews: one with Bild, a popular RW tabloid and one with Sabine Chrsitiansen, a (RW) talk show host on German public TV.
The low-brow interview published in Bild is a gold-mine for real-world satire.
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Tue May-09-06 07:47 AM
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19. Lincoln and Washington have an IQ larger then 40 |
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Tue May-09-06 07:50 AM
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20. Dear God, that's as painful to read as it would be |
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to listen to.
"One of the interesting things about the presidency is people watch me like a hawk. They're looking at my moves. And if I'm going to be ringing my hands and if I'm all worried about the decisions I make are not going to lead to a better tomorrow, they'll figure it out."
Dear Lord, that's painful...
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Tue May-09-06 08:02 AM
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23. sounds arrogant too, he's the decider. |
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Tue May-09-06 08:44 AM
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24. The Stream Of Consciousness, The Random Chain Of Thoughs... |
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... that flows from in brain and out of his mouth is just astoundingly idiotic. How can anyone take him seriously? How do the intelligent people on his staff and in his cabinet keep themselves from visibly rolling their eyes, or from bursting out in laughter at his inability to construct a coherent sentence?
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Wed May-10-06 08:35 AM
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30. It's like Daffy Duck is the President. |
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Tue May-09-06 08:50 AM
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25. Completely self-deluded sociopath |
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Tue May-09-06 08:50 AM
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26. Oh, Jesus. What a philosopher. |
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"Anyway, this is the Oval Office. It's a shrine to democracy. And we treat it that way. When people walk in here, they -- they don't come in here in bathing suits and flip-flops. They come in here dressed like they'd come to a shrine."
:eyes:
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Tue May-09-06 10:25 AM
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The man opens his mouth and gems fall out.
:sarcasm:
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Tue May-09-06 08:54 AM
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27. George Washington Could Not Tell A Lie... |
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George Bush Cannot Tell The Truth!
Abe Lincoln Was The First Republican...
George Bush may well be the Last Republican pResident.(who BTW, was never elected in a fair election)
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Tue May-09-06 09:32 AM
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28. This man's ego knows no bounds... |
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"The interesting thing about him is that I read three -- three or four books about him last year. Isn't that interesting?"
So the most interesting thing about George Washington is... George read about him?
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