Rumsfeld coming up on CSpan 1 now n/t

[malaise]

[rodeodance]

1. so, his opening statement- all is well in Iraq--progress progress

[rodeodance]

3. moving military funds around. Is Rummy out of money?

[rodeodance]

4. wants Congress to pass that emergency money package!

[malaise]

5. Give me your money

is his theme today.

[bdamomma]

2. ugh

is Ray Mc Govern going to be there to ask him the question that rummy did not answer.

[dchill]

6. "Ambitions of extremists do not end in Iraq."

...CNN crawler says. No shit, Don. They didn't start there either. These people are all ready to believe the next steamer that comes out of their mouths. So are the journalistas.

[paparush]

42. Right..we move quickly to Iran, Syria, N. Korea, Russia, China....

[Mandate My Ass]

7. Scolding them about what's "news" and what they should

be reporting. Asshole!

[malaise]

8. Can you believe this rubbish? n/t

[rodeodance]

9. He is on a rant. everything is rosy between cia an defense dept! get it.

[rodeodance]

15. now trying to explain Bush comment: We want to close Gitmo.

[rodeodance]

17. Wh tried to 'manage' Gitmo-they failed. now trying to get rid of it.

[Mandate My Ass]

12. Female reporter: Rummy trying to control more intel

are you looking for Pentagon to have more control over intel analysis.

Rummy: No. Quality of debate is pedestrian and unimpressive. If you stop and say 'what is the most important thing on intel, ration ppl would have understood the structure to provide best intel to protect American ppl.' I read about theoretical turf wars. It should be embarrassing for pppl. We do not have issues between Porter Goss and Tenet. We have good linkages. We have lunch every week or two. Negroponte, Goss, Hayden, no power play taking place. Interesting how little facts get attached by thumbsuckers in the press. I'm going to decide who asks questions, the best behaved.

:eyes:

[rodeodance]

26. as McGovern said last week--We are not stupid.

...Interesting how little facts get attached by thumbsuckers in the press. I'm going to decide who asks questions, the best behaved.

[Akoto]

10. As I watch this, I find myself thinking ...

"I can't believe there are people out there who actually buy this crap."

[rodeodance]

18. Wh is making him go out there and educate us all. te he.

[Roland99]

11. MSNBC covering it, too. Notice the platitudes he lavishes when he wants to

Esp. when he's trying to convey "positive" news?

[Selteri]

14. I love how he claims that

'the thumbsuckers that get printed in the press' before he announces he's going to decide and everyone had best behave. Drink your coolaid and do as we tell you.

[rodeodance]

20. its that smile that wins me over!

NOT.

[Roland99]

13. Reasoning for keeping US troops in Iraq has now changed!!

It used to be as Iraqi forces stand up, US forces would stand down.


Now Rumsfailed is saying the US can't do anything until the Iraqi gov't solidifies and they have a Defence Minister.


:eyes:

[BuyingThyme]

35. Victory is always right around the corner.

[rodeodance]

38. maybe Bush should look under his desk again?

[Roland99]

43. We've turned so many corners I've gotten dizzy

[Mandate My Ass]

16. Reporter: do you believe Gitmo should be closed as Bush

said?

Rummy: What are you trying to do, put me on opposite side of President? I don't think there's anybody who'd like to see every prison closed. The problem is that we've been working very hard to live with the rules and regs as they exist and persuade other countries to accept detainees and treat them as humane. Going down a different track, get the military process going. THis is president's decision, of course. Regrettably court system has been used by defense lawyers where we can't have military courts try these people.

Liar!

[Selteri]

19. I think they are on drugs

With how he is bouncing around so randomly.

[0007]

34. I absolutely don't think these insane bastards need drugs.

"Statutory information, bullshit."

It is quite noticeable that Rummy is upset with the press, even though he claims he doesn't get mad.

He in in over his head and it shows.

[rodeodance]

21. Recall last week when he told McGovern that he is NOT in the Intel

business?

[Selteri]

22. NOooooooooooo

This BS and the intelligence explaation he's making is making it hard to watch anymore.


Must be strong!

Talking like Kirk!

Draim Bamage Intimidate!

Confusion wurds like Bush!

[rodeodance]

23. He is giving the reporters a blow job. and some of them know it.

[Mandate My Ass]

24. Is it important to have intel independent of military?

Rummy: pple want to put things in baskets. The truth is that a single piece of intel could be of national value and/or tactical. Intel can come from multiple sources. The user doesn't care where it came from or if it's being used by somebody else. DoD is largest user of intel. Can't prove it but don't doubt it's correct. Use intel to help defend this country. I have statutory duty. Provide intel to commanders but same information has national purposes. I try to fulfill my responsibility to see commanders have info they need. The thing they mention is they wish they had more intel, timely intel, wish to access 21st century info. (WTF?)

With non nation states requires different intel approach. Spread throughout State, DoD, FBI, making that transition. Not something any one entity should be in charge of. We're trying to figure out what the arrangements ought to be. Legislation that doesn't tell everybody what to do when they get up in the morning (Like following the laws maybe? :eyes:) All we read about is conspiracies blah blah, nothing we do that has not been worked out with WH, etc. There is nothing mysterious about it. Sorry to say that to pppl trying to mystify everything. Collegial and open process. The hundreds of articles you read notwithstanding.

[grytpype]

25. He is so nuts.

We have a bunch of severely mentally ill people running the country.

[malaise]

28. Let's forget who said what

five years ago, two years ago. I wonder why Rummy.

[babylonsister]

What an asshat, chastising the journalists for asking a question. Duh!

Isn't that what they're supposed to be doing?

[Selteri]

29. Not in this administration

You're not a good American if you do what a proper free press does.

You're not a Good American if you question he government.

You're not a GOOD AMERICAN if you actually think for YOURSELF.

[Selteri]

27. LOL - I don't get upset - Great Quote

before he went right back into his old self interviewing mode.

[rodeodance]

30. Rummy does not do well when he makes up storties or plays dumb.

[rodeodance]

Again saying prewar intell was not correct (not address how WH USED

the intell).

[rodeodance]

36. told a reporter was not going to get into that (dismissed him)--the debate

about intell (I think this was the question that got knocked down).

[annabanana]

40. of COURSE it was!. . Cheney went back and forth to the CIA

to make absolutely SURE that the intel was wrong (but oh so delicious)

[Mandate My Ass]

31. Monumental dearth of facts. Dripping sarcasm.

Let's get down into minutiae.

Reporter: Speculation that there's tension. Did you scold him Hayden?

Rumsfeld: I don't get upset. Mike Hayden wanted NSA to move over to DNI. My view was as someone appointed by pres, that DoD ought to wait and see where pres comes down on that issue. He came down it should technically stay at DoD. Hayden on one side and I was with president. When he decided not to move it over I agreed. Is that a big deal? Not that I know of.

[malaise]

32. Does he know this?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1139766

[Mandate My Ass]

33. Given all failures in iraq, can american be confident of intel on Iran?

Wow!

Rummy: the intel community had views on Iraq. That info was available to pres, me. Powell, Rice, Tenet. It was intel available to congress of US. Available to others with exactly the same view. Turns out it was wrong. Fair enough. It's a tough business. Difficult to be right all the time. Does that give one pause? You bet. dealing with a closed society.

[annabanana]

37. Uh - no

He couldn't answer it.. He gave no reason why we should believe the intel any more now than we did then!

[rodeodance]

39. Rummy and his ramblings SHOULD give people pause!

[warrens]

41. Lips...moving...lying nt