Are liberals the new Jews?

[Rocknrule]

On one hand, some might say that to insinuate this would diminish the scale of Hitler's crimes. But on the other hand, Hitler didn't start out gassing Jews immediately, he started out slow. And read any of Ann Coulter's books, they sound like Mein Kampf with "Jew" replaced with "liberal."

[xultar]

1. I think favorite hated oppressed minority. Can't be Jews.

[Phx_Dem]

2. liberals are not the minority. nt

[bryant69]

3. It depends

I imagine we'll find out. I'd like to believe Americans aren't going to follow the Coulter path in any great numbers; but I could very well be wrong.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[BOSSHOG]

4. I look forward to the day

when a chickenhawk tries to tattoo me.

[Selatius]

5. Are you talking about the Kellog, Brown, and Root camps?

I was under the impression those camps were going to be for detaining illegal immigrants, but I guess they could also be used as concentration camps for enemies of the state.

[SoftUnderbelly]

6. ridiculous

jesus christ, is this serious? apart form the fact that mein kampf was written by hitler (whereas coulter has no place in the administration) its a stupid thing to suggest liberals are the 'new jews'. its the same as when people call bush a nazi. you aren't winning any friends with such hyperbole.

[Touchdown]

11. I win lots of friends by saying that Bush is a Nazi.

I get replies like "Oh' GOD! You too?"..."I know! Isn't he though?"..."You said it Brother!"

I'll never be friends with the backwash 31%.

It's like the argument about Patrick Kennedy..."Once a Kennedy, always a Kennedy! It runs in the family. Thay're all alkies and rapists, and they get away with it!"

With that argument, one can make this one.

..."Whereas Prescott Bush profited from Auschwitz slave labor, and was a financier, and collaborator with the Nazis in WWII. Whereas the Bush family fortune was built on the foundations of war profiteering with the Nazis. Whereas Prescott Bush was condemned by Roosevelt for collaborating with the enemy during WWII. It stands that it runs in the family, just like drunken womanizing in the Kennedys, by extension his grandson, George W. Bush, is also a NAZI!"

[rinsd]

15. Except Joe Kennedy was a Nazi sympathizer

to the point he had to be recalled from his ambassadorship(though to be sure many British artistocrats also were Nazi friendly).

Which is speculated as a big reason that Joe Jr. and later JFK joined the service to remove the tarnish from the family name. I would contend that may have been a factor that also applies to George H.W. Bush.

Of course if the moron saying once a Kennedy always a Kennedy knows that, they likely also know about Prescott so you lose the gaping mouth stare of disbelief. Though I would be interested to hear the tap dance afterwards ;-)

On edit: I left the word but wanted to clairfy it. The word "sympathizer" does not connotate that Joe Kennedy aided the Nazis.

[BurtWorm]

7. In a word, no.

They're trying to turn us into the new communists.

[enid602]

8. More likely

We're more likely comparable to 20th Century Soviet intellegencia and the camps they were sent to.

[RagingInMiami]

9. No

Illegal immigrants are.

[maveric]

10. Illegals, Gays, Liberals and Intellectuals.

All are something of a threat to Neocon Murika.

[WilliamPitt]

12. No

[rinsd]

13. What is this need to be part of something bigger?

It's not enough to be marginalized or ridiculed as liberals, we're the new Jews.

It's not enough that Bush is a fascist, he has to be the new Hitler.

It's not enough that we have seen reductions in our civil liberties, we are living in a police state

I just don't get it. Is it some sort of pathological need to connect with the extreme "black and white" example? Is it hyperbole to grab attention? Does it make us somehow better because our foes are worse? Is it just people's natural tendency to view their time as more important (or at least equally important) vs. the past or is this self importance a much newer animal?

Now I am not necessarily asking you as the OP to answer these questions but the mindset is intriguing to me. Though certainly feel free to add any comments.

[otherlander]

20. exactly. Bush doesn't have to be Hitler

to be an evil, murdering, sociopathic lunatic.

[JI7]

37. great post

it should have a thread of it's own.

[0rganism]

14. I'd have to give that handle to the atheists

Looking for a target of religious persecution? Look no further:
atheists
demographic minority - check
hated and resented by those in power - check
accused of corrupting the American way of life - check
not (openly) electable to political office - check
subject of direct legislative attacks - check
subject of religious scorn - check

Another group that falls under the same degree of popular contempt for both the American neo-fascists and the classic Nazis is the gays:
homosexuals
demographic minority - check
hated and resented by those in power - check
accused of corrupting the American way of life - check
barely electable to political office - check
subject of direct legislative attacks - check
subject of religious scorn - check

The fact that both of these minorities tend to be politically centered amongst the liberal conglomerate is no accident, and you'll find that most of the truly hateful rhetoric used to motivate the brownshirt conservatives against the liberals is constructed against these two minority subsets.

[Catrina]

16. I think the word 'liberal' is a code word for 'Jews'. It's only

been in the past few years that the Right suddenly did an about face regarding Jews. Many liberal Jews were prominent in the Civil Rights movement here, and many victims of McCarthyism were Jews. Jews in this country have been traditionally liberal.

The word 'liberal' has been demonized for a long time, I discovered when reading about the history of this country over the past several decades. John Kennedy had to defend himself against the attempts to demonize him, using the word Liberal.

Anyway, I used to tell rightwingers that when they used that word, they were hiding their anti-semitism behind it. That makes them furious, but the truth is that until Bush started his WOT, most rightwingers were very anti-semetic, and it was obvious on the board I posted on before 9/11. They did an about face because they were told to, but I reminded them often of their position on the ME before they got their orders from the Bush administration.

[incapsulated]

17. No, and Coulter's rants are not US policy, either. n/t

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

18. First they came for the Communists..

Then the Socialists, the Trade Unionists, the Jews, the Catholics.

[Ksec]

19. I dont think so.

Libs fight back. Libs have a reputation for being pussys which is really just whack. Id say Liberals were more aggressive and more apt to violence than cons who do nothing but beat their chests and then run from fights.

[deaniac21]

22. Liberals are more aggressive and apt to violence? And

this is a good thing? Am I in the right place?

[Ksec]

33. Thats your decision

Yes, Liberals have always been more activist and violent than conservs. Most important decisions, historically have been through violence.

[Sammy Pepys]

28. ::sigh::....n/t

.....

[Nimrod2005]

21. Yes right --- Righties would LOVE to gas us too...nt

[Rocknrule]

24. Actually, they probably would

Remember, Hitler hated gays, liberals, and commies, too

[triguy46]

23. It just depends, they so badly need witches to burn.

So based on the situation, it can be gays, immigrants, libruls, but it must be someone to which they can point to and ascribe blame for all the problems in the world. They would so dearly love to tie their witch to a stake and gather their little clan around them for a burning. Its the only way they can keep the monster quiet, feed it a witch regularly.

[sweetheart]

25. no, the new jews are muslims. /nt

[Alexodin]

32. Bingo! I've been saying that Muslims are the new Jews for

years now. Muslims are being scape goated by the fascists and demonized exactly like the Jews in 1930's Germany. These fascists are exploiting ancient simmering Christian bigotry to their cause.

Muslims are being imprisoned and tortured and murdered in secret camps and many are innocent of any wrong doing whatsoever. Seems kind of similar to what happened to the Jews to me but maybe I'm not respecting the dead enough to know what I'm talking about. Maybe if we murder enough then they will be exactly like the Jews that Hitler murdered but until then it will only be sort of like what Hitler did.

Bushco just walks like a big fascist duck and quacks like a goose stepping tyrant thats all.

[manic expression]

26. No

The Jews were not political opponents of the Nazis. The leftists, however, were, and they were thrown in the camps as quickly as anyone else.

Remember, homosexuals (GLBT) were also exterminated by the Nazis, after being despised, hated, ostracized, attacked and worse. Remind you of something?

[Finder]

27. NO, n/t

[Cleita]

29. I posted the same thing here three years ago and

was attacked for being insensitive to the Jews who died in the Holocaust. It's not to diminish that, but to point out that the same forces are coming into play that started the holocaust. Thanks for posting this again.

[The Jacobin]

30. It was insensitive then and it is insensitive now.

No one. NO ONE. Not Bush, Rove, Coulter, Limbaugh, Savage, Cheney, Bolton, or anyone else has ever suggested that Liberals should be deported and/or exterminated.

Drawing the analogy is pushing the victim mentality that some of the people here have just too far.

[Cleita]

31. I guess you haven't read much right wing hate writing, oh

Ann Coulter comes to mind, or listen to RW hate radio, Rush Limbaugh comes to mind. Both have hinted that liberals should be exterminated in some way or another. Ann actually has said it. I have been told that I should be deported (citizen from birth) here because all commie, liberal wetbacks should be deported. I have too many examples and so little time today as I am working hard trying to get a Democrat elected to a secure Republican congressional seat so I will continue this after November.

[Rocknrule]

38. Ann has

She'd personally operate the gas chambers if given the chance

[kevinbgoode]

34. Hon...to the neocons and the christo-fascists....

EVERYONE is the new Jew. . .

[Kellanved]

35. That's absurd

First of, the statement implies a similarity between Nazi Germany and modern America that simply doesn't exist.

Based on that funky premise, you are equating the plight and murder of millions, committed by a barbaric regime and spineless citizens, with petty administration criminality. Moreover, you are equating the persecution based on family heritage with an alleged persecution based on political views.
That is insulting to the memory of the victims of the Shoa.

Moreover, you are insulting the liberals, social democrats, communists and other political activists imprisoned and murdered by the Nazis.

Instead of trying to establish a parallel between the alleged prosecution based on political beliefs, you are using the single, biggest crime to make your point. That, Sir, is foul play.

[Raksha]

36. Yes they are. I've known that for a while now.

Except that instead of being a hated minority, we're a hated majority.