Dianne Feinstein: She is the best California can do ?

[blueinindiana]

California can elect Babara Boxer but can not elect anyone other than a DIanne Feinstein?

I heard her on CNN and if i had my eyes closed I woudl think I heard someone from Bush, Inc

[maxsolomon]

1. once ensconced, you cannot risk dislodging a dem senator

no matter how centrist.

witness washington state's 2 senators, 'patsy' murray & maria cant-vote-well. i'd turn them out in a second in favor of a firebrand who would call a spade a spade.

but the likely consequence; continued, solidified GOP control of congress, is too horrific to risk.

think of it: you could have Pombo in there.

[cyclezealot]

2. A Cindy Sheehan challenge

would have done Dianne wonders to steer her in the direction of California Democrats. I surely would have voted Sheehan. But, now we have no other choice... Well, on her positive side. She did do a better job of challenging Alioto.

[Accountability_NOW]

9. Man I wish Cindy would have run...

Is it too late to run as independent?

[Hekate]

21. Cindy would only diminish herself and her cause. Plus she has no $$$

Seriously, Cindy Sheehan shouldn't be running for US Senator. That campaign is a whole different breed of cat than what she is doing so well right now, and it takes major fundraising, which takes major kissing-up. Do we really want to see Cindy kissing up to corporate sponsors?

Diane Feinstein, otoh, is a capable Senator on powerful committees. I find myself disagreeing with her more these days, but I will NOT jeopardize a Democratic seat. When a viable Democratic challenger takes her on in a primary, I'll certainly consider supporting that person -- but s/he better walk on water.

Hekate

[tishaLA]

3. Is Dick Lugar the best Indiana can do?

I don't love DiFi, but someone from a state that elects Lugar and Bayh should be *thankful* that we have Diane Feinsteain. We just think of her as our republicon senator...who almost always votes with the Democrats.

[blueinindiana]

4. I live in a extremely red state..

Bayh is considered a liberal by Indiana standards...

[tishaLA]

5. You didn't answer the question

Is Lugar the best you can do?

It may surprise people in the flyover to learn this, but California has not been a "far left" state; that's why, for the past 40 years, we have elected people like Schwarzenegger, Pete Wilson, George Deukmajian, Reagan, et al. Grey Davis was a moderate Democrat and Jerry Brown was an aberration in the state's gubernatorial history. Democrats who get elected to statewide offices in California tend to be less progressive than I might want, but they call themselves pragmatic.

And they are all certainly better than Dick Lugar, which seems to be the best Indiana can do. And DiFi on her worst day is still a progressive when compared to Evan Bayh.

[Warren DeMontague]

12. Yeah, although Arnold had the help of Cheney and Enron.

And now he's got his specially-installed "moderate" SOS overseeing the implementation of Diebold voting machines which Californians clearly don't want.

California is more liberal on social issues (and socially libertarian) than much of the country, but the whole country is FAR more liberal than the "common wisdom" and corporate media would have people believe.

[Justice Is Comin]

19. How is Marcy Winograd looking

out there? Boy, I would love to see her clobber Harmon and put a Democrat in that seat.

Harmon :puke:

[KyuzoGator]

6. DiFi is the single Democrat I dislike most...more than Lieberman.

She's crooked as a question mark.

[natrat]

7. yea she sucks ass

corrupt piece of shit supports hayden---i hate her with a passion and will vote for anyone beside her the war mongering skank piece of crap-fuck her

[cyclezealot]

8. some say if the bay area were not so liberal she be a Repuk

NOt my favorite. But, as bad a LIebermann. not sure I agree with that. Liebermann had no problems with either Roberts of Alioto.

[shance]

10. Diane is a Democrat in name only. She has been picked it seems

by Republicans so that she will run as a Democrat.

How has she proven to be a Democrat?

Apparently the infiltration of Republicans into the Democratic party has been happening for a while.

I would say the proof now is in the pudding of their voting record.

Dianne Feinstein, like Hillary Clinton certainly doesn't seem like me to be a Democrat. However the wealth and establishment seems to be the primary motivator of both of their votes.

If their voting record is the proof, then the record speaks for itself.

Even if they voted for or against the "right" (or wrong) verdict, if it didn't pass by a majority, what purpose was their vote, if only to look good? Like the Alito vote, which her constituents pounded her with calls, Feinstein only seemed to change when she knew her vote wouldn't count anyway.

I would welcome the evidence of the most important legislative votes on America, where they have been "Democratic" in their votes?

Please by all means, this being primarily the Iraqi War and the Patriot Act, show the evidence.

[cyclezealot]

16. You very well are right.

I know Feinstein has way to many votes I disapprove of. But, I think it bad to generalize. To me the bottom line is stacking up her votes. Go to favorite web sites by organizations such as the ADA or Cope. They summarize votes taken by our representatives in Congress. Should Feinstein have over a 75% voter approval rating by the ADA and COPE, then she will have my vote.

[shance]

17. I think what is more important than their voting record is the OUTCOME

of the vote.

Voting records can be bought and sold. What matters is were they able to garner the support to pass the bill?

Seems lawmakers trade votes all the time in order to "look good". However all the while they realize the bill is not going to pass.

That is why Voting records aren't necessarily accurate.

[cyclezealot]

18. Can be true.

However organizations you support and believe in know how to count the really important procedural votes that can't be used for 'cover up' purposes. AFL-CIO's "Cope" or the ADA know how to seperate the 'wheat from the chafe.'
They fully explain how votes are traded and inform one as to how they came up their their rating.
The organizations I use to rate my COngress members are ADA, ACLU, and Cope. As the services are known.
Need to see if Feinstein gets my 75%. Have not been at these sites in awhile.

[shance]

22. Does an "organization" count the vote or a person? How does an

"organization" count votes???

If you want unknown "Trust me" corporate entities to count your vote, instead of local citizens, then you are a blindly devoted fool my friend.

[cyclezealot]

24. Shance. I am talking about Votes cast in Congress

on bills by our legislators. Thats' what we send them for. I say we generalize way too much. Yes, big issues like a vote for the War in Iraq get our attention. But, thousands of votes are cast each year on issues in COngress. The job is too big to track daily for most of us. You must have some bigger issues that sway your support for COngressional.
Either Labor, Environment, Constitutional Rights. Professional organizations are in DC tracking how Senators/ Representatives vote. And they explain their tracking methods.
THe press usually covers these organizations once a year, when they say someone is the most conservative or liberal. You can go to these organizations web sites yourself and find out how someone voted. It is good to know their specific votes and not generalize.
As much as I hate Lieberman, last time I looked his percentage vote on labor issues was pretty good.

[Warren DeMontague]

11. "They can't all be winners, Kid"

Best thing I can say about her is, she's pro-choice. Is she my favorite? No.

Given a decent primary challenge, I would gladly support a different Democrat for that seat. But California has other fish to fry this year, I should think.

Hey- at least both OUR Senators are Democrats.

[maddezmom]

13. You've got an excellent point

At least they are both dems. Try having mine....Hutchinson and Cornyn. :puke:

[Warren DeMontague]

14. The box turtle guy? No thanks.

We're kinky up here in the Bay Area, but not THAT kinky. :hippie:

[Robbie Michaels]

15. DINO Feinstein's Gotta Go

:puke:

[Raine]

20. It is because

"California can elect Babara Boxer..." that we have to balance out with Feinstein, the majority of people here would never go for TWO liberal women. IMO

[Proud2BAmurkin]

23. Diane rocks sometimes and is good on TV

sometimes not