Re: Gov't spying on minutemen...freeps having a * meltdown

[ourbluenation]

:toast:

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To: All

If Bush wasn't already toast, he will be if this story is true!

This President is now officially a FAILURE should this story be verified.

The Republican Party is in the toaster and getting warmer heading toward full toasting.

Butter and jelly anyone?

17 posted on 05/09/2006 12:55:29 PM PDT by negril
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To: paguch
If This is true, President Bush should not wonder why his approval ratings are falling.

Agreed. The actions of this administration leave me dumbfounded. It is as though they want to loose the House in 06. It reminds me of his dad looking at his debate with Clinton where he stares down at his watch. The very second Bush41 reneged on the "read my lips, no new taxes" I knew he wasn't a true conservative. Bush's closest adviser is his wife, she is with him every night. I really don't know where she stands on many social issues but it is easy to see in the past where "nagging" wives have influenced their President husbands. I am not saying it in this case. However, someone with Coolidge's understanding of the Constitution would have done everything in their power to get rid, for example, the wholly unconstitutional Dept of Education. Anyone who cherishes Liberty and love of small government would never support unwieldy bureaucracies. To truly have the citizens educated we must separate State and school. Back on topic. I have tried and tried to understand why Bush is neglecting his base. I can only conclude he is either not truly a conservative or someone close is influencing him to be more socialist. Any way, I found this latest revelation, if true, to be absolutely disgusting.
18 posted on 05/09/2006 12:56:23 PM PDT by liberty2004

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To: NapkinUser

I just can't hardly believe this. I mean, I know it is true, but it is so disappointing. How our government could treat Patriots this way is beyond me. The Republicans better put a stop to it.

19 posted on 05/09/2006 12:56:28 PM PDT by yellowdoghunter

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To: NapkinUser

I just can't hardly believe this. I mean, I know it is true, but it is so disappointing. How our government could treat Patriots this way is beyond me. The Republicans better put a stop to it.

19 posted on 05/09/2006 12:56:28 PM PDT by yellowdoghunter

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To: BenLurkin

This is unbelievable. Treason of the highest order! I can't believe I voted for this president... twice! I had no idea that Bush would not only ignore the border situation completely, but to actively work against LEGAL citizens of this country who are LEGALLY protecting our borders and people of this country. All for what?! Cheap labor and votes? Good lord... I thought it couldn't get any worse than Clinton! If I never hear of the name Bush again, it'll be too soon.

26 posted on 05/09/2006 1:02:27 PM PDT by Tarkus2040


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1629359/posts

[LeftCoast]

1. As the BushCabal goes down, watch for Repubs to say more and more

that he wasn't a "true conservative". It's the only out they have because Bush has so thoroughly discredited their ideology.

[Mythsaje]

6. Which is why the response SHOULD be...

"You're kidding, right? He's your poster boy. Government ineptitude and corruption served on a silver platter."

[EstimatedProphet]

23. Not only that...

We should be saying "This is your wet dream as President, he always has been, and the only reason he is falling out of favor with you is that he is showing himself not to be the rabid racist that you are."

[Bridget Burke]

90. Bush may not be "racist" at all.

That is, I doubt he'd treat a poor white man any better than a poor man of another color. He really only cares for "the right people." That group tends toward whiteness, but includes Ms Rice & the Attorney General.

However, his people are glad to use racism as a political tool.

[LeftCoast]

30. Agreed! If your entired political philosophy is a hatred of government

how can you expect them to do a good job running one?

[maxrandb]

98. My sig-line says it all n/t

[leesa]

72. He actualized their ideology, which is even worse. He made their wet

dreams come true, but they found out their ideas were disastrous.

[Swamp Rat]

74. "Wet Dreams?"

:D

[Paulie]

103. Rachael Maddow said they have to run Bush as a liberal

against the democrats. And so it begins.....

The BUSH REGIME is going down, and about damn time too!

[muntrv]

2. Un-Constitutional Dept. of Education?

No wonder why freeptards are bad spellers. They went to unfunded schools.

[Quakerfriend]

4. I thought that was funny, too!

[YankeyMCC]

50. That caught my attention too

also this comment: "we must separate State and school. "

I'll bet this same nitwit rails against separation of church and state.

[Quakerfriend]

3. Amazing what it takes to get through their thick skulls!

[Tiggeroshii]

5. hehehe

:popcorn:

[ourbluenation]

10. they are seriously going ballistic!

To: Cagey

I'm still dumbfounded by it. I sit here as the raw truth about what this government is doing, informing a foreign hostile government the movement of law abiding American citizens, and have to stop myself from crying at the utter betrayal.

36 posted on 05/09/2006 1:08:16 PM PDT by pbrown

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To: drypowder

This is unconscionable. I can barely contain my rage when I hear more about this.

41 posted on 05/09/2006 1:08:55 PM PDT by riri

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To: NapkinUser

If the American gov't is against us, who's on our side?

Seriously folks, I haven't gotten a real response on this, but are we doomed to fight against a growing monster of a federal gov't? Is the Republic in which we live slowly turning into a nanny state that Reagan warned us about? I don't see any hope for the future of this country past 2008. If Bush has failed us, what's next?

44 posted on 05/09/2006 1:09:53 PM PDT by rarestia

[Tiggeroshii]

13. It's the patriotic act, idiots!

Why can't they understand that their government was doing it to protect them? Nothing will happen to them if they don't do anything wrong!

:sarcasm:

[EstimatedProphet]

25. A foreign hostile government?

Are we at war with Mexico now? When did that happe?

[Sydnie]

58. To: rarestia

It's not a Nanny state you need to worry about ... it's the Military Industrial Complex stupid! Reagan could barely remember his name during Iran-Contra ... he NEEDED a nanny!

[pacalo]

68. Poor idiots.

The Republican party gave them the bait & switch. First, the GOP reeled in the bigots with talk against "entitlements" & affirmative action, etc. Now that they've filled the bigots with hatred against minorities, the GOP has painted itself into a corner by trying to win, imo, the Hispanic votes.

[OnionPatch]

73. Nanny state?

I thought what they wanted was a nanny state. Let's see, the government decides who is allow or not allowed to marry, the pharmacist, with the support of the government, can decide what birth control we are allowed to use. The government can decide which plants that grow naturally in our lands are allowed to be used medicinally, the government they want would make our kids pray in school. The sale of sex toys is being outlawed in several states....Heck, last I checked, Ohio was about to have uterus checks at the border, and they don't think their agenda leads to a "nanny" state?

[eppur_se_muova]

82. They don't want a nanny, they want a dominatrix. nt

[OnionPatch]

85. I was thinking that

:rofl:
They really don't seem to mind a nanny that's cruel and manipulative, one that cracks the whip, so to speak. They just can't tolerate a nanny that does *nice* things for people or actually helps to care for them.

[proud patriot]

7. rassberry jelly

:D

[Hubert Flottz]

27. Perch Jelly for the Freepers!

[BuyingThyme]

8. If you have nothing to hide, why do you have a problem with your

hero gathering and sharing private details of your life with a foreign government.

:rofl:

[cornermouse]

9. I'm laughing.

Serves them right.

[ourbluenation]

11. This one is the BEST!

To: rarestia

At some point this nation will split. The only bad thing will be the freepers won't get anything.

47 posted on 05/09/2006 1:11:55 PM PDT by one more state

:rofl:

[nicknameless]

12. It's all Laura Bush's fault?! She's nagged him into doing all this?!

HILARIOUS!!!

:D

[noamnety]

45. yep, it's her fault

Bush, however, remains good and pure - just an unfortunate victim of his socialist wife's influence.

[sellitman]

55. Pickles for President!

:rofl: :popcorn:

[muntrv]

14. That's it. Keep slugging each other to death.

The smart people will inherit the Earth.

[pretzel4gore]

15. it made my day!

haha....so sweet!

[ourbluenation]

16. every post gets worse and worse...ya just have to go over there and

check it out...

To: DoughtyOne
If Bush had his fingers in this he deserves to be impeached.

Fully agreed.
84 posted on 05/09/2006 1:27:02 PM PDT by riri

[stepnw1f]

17. Wassamatta? I Thought They DIdn't Mind

Oh, I See.... it's ok when the govt spies on liberal organizations and peace activists, but when it's their own..... FUCK YOU TOO DICK HEADS!

[OnionPatch]

71. This pisses me to no end

:mad: The fuckers don't give a damn if other Americans are spied on, but when their own are spied on suddenly it's unconstitutional.....what a bunch of hypocritical pigs.

Well, all I can say is Good. Sleep well you "morans." Big brother is watching.....you too. :rofl:

[ourbluenation]

18. oh christ - * and a donkey!!!

To: riri

I don't know about you but if Fox has something on Bush (like pictures of him with a donkey or something)I would just as soon have those outed and be done with. Seeing Bush with a donkey would be better than what he's doing to us.

89 posted on 05/09/2006 1:29:04 PM PDT by Chi-Town Lady

[BuyingThyme]

19. They're using the I word over there. Somebody needs to figure out

how to put this to work.

Yes, we need a Dem to stand up for the Minute Men. Not to stand up for their objectives, but to stand up for their rights.

This is free gold. All we need is a few good Dems to put it to work.

[Hubert Flottz]

31. That would be the hated ACLU!

[BuyingThyme]

33. I think we need the Dems to get the credit.

[ourbluenation]

20. Ya think? "GOP likes cheap labor..."

To: Mind-numbed Robot

I don't think they are going to vote GOP. I do think the people who give the largest donations to the GOP like the cheap labor and, even if they are not using it directly, they benefit from the downward pressure on wages that comes with the package.

154 posted on 05/09/2006 1:56:49 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn

[muntrv]

41. What? You freepers don't see the connection

between your hostility to minimum wage laws, unions and American employers using cheap labor from Mexico?

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

21. Dear Freeps: We Told You So. YEARS AGO.

Welcome to the light. May it burn you to a cinder for all your willful ignorance.

Sincerely,
PN6

:nuke:

[Marr]

22. Hey, if you've got nothing to hide, it's not a problem! Right?

Stupid fucking traitors. They're fine with trashing civil liberties, so long as it's not their own.

[Roland99]

43. B I N G O ! ! !

[struggle4progress]

66. "There's the signpost up ahead. Your next stop: Guantanamo"

[rodeodance]

24. Lou Dobbs had a segment about this also. He was outraged.

[Robbie Michaels]

56. No way!

Dobbs had a meltdown? I have to watch the rerun later this evening. :evilgrin:

[Hubert Flottz]

26. If the minutemen have nothing to hide why would they care if

Bush spies on them?

[magellan]

39. Because he isn't simply spying on them

Border patrol are actually giving the Mexican government a head's up on the minutemen positions.

[opihimoimoi]

69. But but dey got nothin to hide...vhats a position or two?

Vector vector Charlie One, Location comped, comped, 86 asap 86 asap...

Das all dey gatta do...leave to another location and make more fences there..Soon, dere be a whole lotta short fences all over da place....Oh Well, ve tried didn;t ve

[aquart]

102. Who let that mangy cat out of the bag?

[Kahuna]

28. Ahhh!

:smoke:

I quite enjoyed that.

[Critters2]

95. !

:spray:

[Initech]

29. I cant be the only one disturbed by the fact that

they refer to the Minutemen as "patriots".

[pdxmom]

32. You aren't. And the fact that they think "patriots" shouldn't be

looked at because they are "patriots". I'm assuming that means those whom they deem to not be patriots deserve having their rights violated.

I love it when the Right's hypocrisy is so damn obvious.

[ComerPerro]

34. The Minutemen are NOT patriots

they are opportunists. At best.

[muntrv]

42. They are infested with neo-nazis.

So they are patriotic to the swastika and burning cross.

[SofaKingLiberal]

35. LOL - Freepers are dumber than Bush.

:rofl:

[BuyingThyme]

37. Yep. They been outsmarted by a Chimp.

[ourbluenation]

36. Halleluiah!!!!! Pay dirt...

To: edcoil
This is why I'm staying home in November. Before some of you start whining, "Well, the Democrats aren't going to enforce the border, either," I say it's time to hold the party everyone worked so hard to elect accountable. Let them sit for two years and think about what they haven't done. My vote is not an entitlement, dammit!!!
974 posted on 05/09/2006 4:57:51 PM PDT by Uncle Vlad

[kevinbgoode]

38. I thought they loved spying. . .

er...until they themselves could be considered "terrorists"...

[windy252]

40. Now seems like a good time,

to say "We told you so!!" Hmm, kind of angry tonight.

[0007]

44. I love it!

Wonder if they'd like a cheese with their wine?

[Ksec]

46. Theyre blaming bush for what they wanted

Now that they got what theyve wanted theyre devouring each other.

Hey freepturds. It aint bush, its you and your loser ideology catching up to you. You can blame the messenger if you like but its "your ideas" in action. Enjoy.

[CoffeeCat]

47. Maybe, just maybe the Freeps and the Libs will...

...finally come together, and it will be on this issue.

Junior is a Fascist. He'll spy on anyone, invade their privacy, put them on an enemies
list, and violate their privacy and Constitutional rights.

So far, it's been the libs with the problems--because we're the ones against Junior. However,
Junior will do this to anyone who crosses his path, makes him look bad or creates paranoia in him.

Maybe the Freeps will realize that this is not good for the country. It's real easy to look
the other way when Junior is inhibiting the free speech of libs and spying on progressives. Sometimes it takes an infraction in your own backyard, for you to realize how serious the situation is.

I think this discourse is positive. Maybe we can find some common ground. We were never
against someone with a conservative agenda. We are against this sick, Fascist, lying bastard who could care less about Democracy and our Constitution. Maybe now the Freeps will see Junior for who he is.

I don't necessarily think that a conservative in the White House is a bad thing. However, Junior is NOT a conservative. He's a very sick, lying, power mongering bastard.

Maybe--just maybe--Junior may be the big "uniter" that he's always bragged about. Maybe America will finally wake up and see that this man is pure poison.

We all love America--Dems, Reps, Libs, Cons. We may not always agree on how to do things in America. I'm hoping that soon--everyone will see that Junior is not good for anyone.

Junior doing this is reckless, but it's a positive that others are able to see what we've seen all along.

[bvar22]

61. I AM against Corporate Owned "Trickle Down" CONSERVATIVES....

Democrat OR Republican...AND I don't want either in the White House OR in the Democratic Party.
Now is NOT the time to rehabilitate Conservatism.
NOW is the time to drive a stake through CONSERVATISM'S Selfish, Black Heart!!!!

The Democratic Party is a BIG TENT, but there is NO ROOM for those
who advance the agenda of THE RICH (Corporate Owners) at the EXPENSE of LABOR and the POOR.

[MazeRat7]

48. "I love the smell of toasting freepers in the morning..." (n/t)

[originalpckelly]

49. Wow! Bush has really fucked himself this time. He such a gonner...

we may not have to worry about impeaching his stupid ass, the Republicans might get to him first!
Sing along with me now: Happy, happy, joy, joy
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Autonomy]

51. It's always a woman's fault

something goes wrong, blame the nearest liberal or woman. The FIRST reason that conservatism is a bankrupt philosophy(ies) is that the adherents lack a method of accurate self-appraisal. And they call themselves the "party of personal responibility." Pfft. The party of personal destruction is more like it.

[Notoverit]

97. Cherchez la femme! (paging Dr Freud)

And, I admit to being dense - but can someone explain to me the minutemen reference?

[Ms. Clio]

52. so so so funny

Of course no federal government can permit a bunch of racist halfwits with firearms to play vigilante in the desert.

Sorry, guys, those days are over.

[YankeyMCC]

53. Quick someone run over there and yell out

"Told you so!"

:)

Of course that can get a bit tiring to do over and over and over and over again...

[Mr_Spock]

54. Ha! Ha! HaHa! Ha! Ha! HA!!

...all of a sudden he's a treasonous bastard :rofl:

They catch on slowly over there...

[originalpckelly]

57. "If Bush had his fingers in this he deserves to be impeached."

That came from a freeper on that spying thread. My goodness!

[deadparrot]

59. And it only took 'em six years to see the light.

Praise Jeebus.

[BrightKnight]

60. .

[Robbie Michaels]

62. OMG!!!

I've never seen nearly 500 posts on one thread. They've gone batshit crazy. I wonder if PJComix has the balls to document this thread (or the one we're laughing at) on his DU bashing blog?

[burythehatchet]

63. aaaaawwwwwwww

poor wittle scumbags

[oxbow]

64. DOMESTIC SPYING: Finally something all Americans can agree on!

This is too insane to be true, even for these guys! This is on the order of the Dubai Ports deal for potential poltical damage. His base is gonna shrink even further now...

[bklyncowgirl]

65. Cheap labor uber alles, Freeps

What is it about big business's love afair with workers who can be paid peanuts and can be shipped on the next INS bus back to Mexico if they get uppity that you don't get?

The "haves and the have more's" just love illegal immigration--and they've been using you as patsys.

[qanda]

67. But, if you're not doing anything wrong...

Then you don't have anything to worry about. Now, where have I heard that before?

[SeattleGirl]

70. While I do find some of the comments funny, and while I do not

like what the Minutemen are doing, I do feel like a couple of other posters on this thread: it's flat out wrong for the United States Government to do what they are doing, and especially, as is the case here, to turn over what they are finding out to a foreign government. And no, the freepers weren't yelling and shouting when the spying was on liberal and peace activist groups and individuals. But now that it's being done to the Minutemen, the big ugly truth about this Administration has crashed full speed through their front door, and they are finally able to SEE.

So, even though philosophically I couldn't be farther apart from the freepers on the issues, on this one, I am glad to see that they are pissed off. As the bumper sticker says, "If you're not pissed off, you're not paying attention." Finally, they are getting pissed off at something that should piss off EVERY American!

[Swamp Rat]

75. Stupid fucktards are to blame for voting for Bushler in the first place

:eyes:

[SeattleGirl]

76. Yep, they were.

My point in my post was that these folks are waking up and seeing Bush for who/what he really is. Too bad they were asleep in 2000 and 2004, but if enough of them wake up before November, that's fine with me.

BTW, I love your graphic!

[Swamp Rat]

77. Thanks

Here's the companion piece:

[SeattleGirl]

78. Ooh, I like that one too!

Do you sell copies of your work?

[Swamp Rat]

79. Not yet

Maybe I will someday, I could use some cheese-money. Hell, I'm as poor as that cute church mouse I met at Notre Dam after I stowed away on that freighter to Paris. :loveya:

Here's my gallery. Download any pic you like:

http://news.globalfreepress.com/gallery/index.php?cat=10002

I call what I do fotovandalism. :D

[Marr]

83. But they aren't really waking up.

They still have no respect for civil liberties. They're still fascist assholes who have no problem with using the government to spy on, unjustly arrest, torture, etc., anyone who is not "on the team". They're just suddenly understanding that the Bush Administration doesn't actually consider Freepers to be part of the team. They've found out too late, of course. Their kind always does. Just one more thing they have in common with Hitler's Brownshirts.

I don't have one ounce of respect for these cowardly pigs. They haven't changed a bit.

[myrna minx]

91. You are exactly correct.

They're gleeful to sell anyone else's rights down the river, but boy do their petticoats go flying in all directions when someone dares to step on their rights. They're mourning the fact that they were double crossed by their "glorious godly leader." All they are left with is:

"When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out."

For the Freeps, no one was able to speak out for them because like good little brown shirts, they had turned everyone else in.

[Little Star]

86. What you said! n/t

[SeattleVet]

80. You should see what they're doing to each other over the denial from the

Border Patrol:

http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/newsroom/highlights/news_highlights/statement05092006.xml
"Inland Valley Daily Bulletin Inaccurate"

Man, the sheer hatred that's flying on their most recent message thread about this would blister paint.

Here's their message thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1629558/posts

Heads are exploding over what may have been a bad translation from the Mexican web site by a reporter who may have been doing a bunch of pro-minuteman articles, but that's from the freeptards, so take it with a sack or two of salt.


The usual caveat applies: If you do go to check it out, bring your own popcorn and please remember to wipe your feet before you return here!

[ComerPerro]

81. If they aren't doing anything wrong, they have nothing to worry about

right, neo-cons?

[MadHound]

84. Hey Freeps, welcome to our world!

This shit has been going on to the left and progressive groups for decades now, but hey, you didn't seem to mind that, in fact I recall several, if not most of you thinking it was a good thing that the government was spying on those "godless, unamerican commie liberals":eyes: But boy howdy, it sure does suck when the other shoe drops, doesn't it.

So is it getting through those thick skulls yet, is light starting to dawn over Rock Mountain? Are you finally realizing that the ones who are truly Un American, the ones who really don't have this country's best interests at heart aren't on the left, but instead they're in our government, and in the boardrooms of corporations both here and abroad. Are you getting the picture yet? Good, now perhaps you'll put down those pitchforks you've been trying to stick us with, and instead join us and help take back our government for we the people.

[warrens]

87. RimJob is threatening a purge! PURGE RIMJOB PURGE!!!!

To: Idisarthur Attention:

Those of you who are calling for revolution, secession, violence, impeachment, etc, will no longer be posting on FR. Sheesh, it's a phony report (pure Marxist propaganda), but it sure is exposing a lot of hothead idiot trolls.

178 posted on 05/09/2006 2:10:17 PM PDT by Jim Robinson < Post Reply | Private Reply | To 147 | View Replies | Report Abuse >

[Critters2]

96. Free Speech is a bitch, eh, Jimmy? nt

[tandot]

88. I thought they fully supported Bush's spying on US Citizens?

Oh - I get it: Only if they spy on peaceful protesters and liberals is it alright. :eyes:

[myrna minx]

92. Don't forget the *gulp* PACIFISTS!!! Run for the hills!

And the chocolate chip cookie baking quakers must be stopped at all costs! Oh the HUMANITY!

[Jack Rabbit]

89. If it makes the Freepers feel any better

. . . I hope the feds had a warrant.

[stubtoe]

93. "I can't believe I voted for this president... twice!"

Idiot
Idiot
Idiot
Idiot
Idiot
Idiot
Idiot

[earth mom]

94. * only cares for FILTHY RICH ELITES. Period.

How many freepers fit in the elite category? Very few no doubt.

So the freepers finally woke up, smelled the coffee and got a clue that * doesn't give a damn about them!

What do you know, it's really the rich elite with * at the helm who are giving THEIR jobs away and spying on them!

Now the freepers know how the rest of us have been feeling all these years while at the mercy of these evil bastards!

Pay back's a bitch now ain't it?!

:rofl:

[Supersedeas]

99. eeewwww, liberty went with the nagging wife card -- why is never *'s fault

[Ksec]

100. So its OK to tap and spy on citizens?

What a confusing mess they are.

[Notoverit]

101. kick!

[robbedvoter]

104. oh, no! Backwash evaporation!

[bullwinkle428]

105. It took these morans this long to figure out that * isn't really a "true

conservative"? :rofl: