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emanymton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 05:28 AM
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What Happened To The Release Of Abu Ghraib Photos? ...
Edited on Thu Jan-12-06 05:29 AM by emanymton
The courts oredered the documents released to the public.

Golden question for a golden moment.
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zippy890 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 05:29 AM
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1. good question
was wonderin about that
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 05:43 AM
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2. That's what I'd like to know,
that's only one of the things I'm waiting for that can turn this stagecoach completely over. I can't WAIT for congress to reconvene. It'll be one blasting after another. Hearings, investigations, indictments la la de da la la de...sing along.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 05:45 AM
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3. When I asked back in mid-December, the deadline was still being extended
by the judge - in other words, the Pentagon lawyers are still tying it up.

You can check the ACLU website. There may be an update there.
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 05:52 AM
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4. Government asked for time to appeal...
... and was given additional time to prepare request to quash the lower court order. Last I heard, that was the status of it. The lower court judge, Hellerstein, issued an order Dec. 19th, giving both sides 90 days to file appeals in the case. Won't know anything firm until possibly as late as Mar. 19th.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 01:54 PM
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22. Pentagon put the kabash on more pic's leaking out > they can't afford the
flak -- it would make the US. look even worse - kiddin? video footage of kids being raped in front of their parents?!!...
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 05:57 AM
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5. We'll have to hope for a leaker in the Pentagon
Then you'll see these people get angry about leaks. Otherwise, those pictures won't come out until long after the neo-cons have gone back to the think tank circuit and left government.
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 05:59 AM
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6. What photos?
:sarcasm:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 06:16 AM
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7. it has almost come to that hasn't it (what photos?).
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 05:43 PM
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24. Pretty much.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 07:06 AM
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8. They have been put away with the President's papers
When he gets to old for cutting down small trees he will look at them
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aKinderGentlerDUer Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 07:09 AM
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9. That's a very good question!
It seems like so many good things are planned, but then they never work out. I thought Fitz was supposed to 'bring 'em down' during Christmas, or the week after? There was supposed to be all these charges brought and people removed--what happened?
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 07:24 AM
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10. Welcome to DU!
:hi:

The photos will be released, and the American people will not like what they see.



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zippy890 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 08:03 AM
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13. Hey swampy - love the graphic!
excellent

what are his eyes, looks like the pyramid symbol on the dollar bill?
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 07:27 AM
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11. What's in those photos?
I hear that there are photos or video of children being sodomized. Is it really that bad? Who is doing the sodomizing? American soldiers?
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 08:42 AM
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17. Yes. They are really that bad.
CHILDREN and wives of prisoners were tortured so their father/husband would talk. Yes, it's that bad. That's why the Pentagon won't release the pics.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 11:13 AM
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19. Do you know the answers to the inquiries below?
I may have this wrong, so someone please correct me:

I keep reading on DU that someone on the right made a case for allowing for the crushing of a child's testicles in order to get the parent to talk. It was made as a hypothetical. I guess it was too heinous for me to take seriously a few days ago, but now I think I'm ready to look back and ask some follow up questions:

(1) Is the Bush Administration making a case for the allowance of this kind of torture, because it's already been done? Is this what's going to turn up in those photos?

(2) What Bush lawyer/crony made this argument?

(3) Why would anyone photograph such incriminating behavior? What kind of people think that this would pass muster? Is this what our military has degraded to since it became a "Republican" military?

Of course, those questions only makes sense if the original premise is true. Did someone in the Bush Administration or crony make the original argument that crushing a child's testicals is an approved form of torture?

God, I hope I have this all wrong.
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 06:29 AM
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25. John Yoo, one of the Patriot Act Authors
In a debate about human rights his opponent got him to admit that there is no law to prevent Bush from doing what you describe to a child.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 07:29 AM
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12. How many times are people here going to ask this?
They will never be released.

They have probably been destroyed by now.
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 02:06 PM
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23. Until it happens or it's uncontroverable public news they won't be
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 06:43 AM
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27. nah. the Washington Post has them too.
at one point they were "considering" releasing more on the web or something. Christ, like they were discussing some new payment scheme or ad campaign.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 08:08 AM
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14. maybe they can put it off long enough for Scalito to hear the appeal
But Gen Miller pled the fifth amendment, the other day! That's admitting he might be implicated in criminal activity, right> so some progress is being made.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 08:17 AM
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15. Coming, be patient my emanymton and welcome to DU.
:hi:
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emanymton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 08:37 AM
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16. Golden Question For A Golden Moment.
Timing is everything! Keep this issue alive.

Ask Supreme Court Nominee his opinion on stonewalling!!!
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 01:11 PM
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20. Timing is everything:
How much you want to bet that the Democrats will suddenly get the momentum after Alito gets nominated. Suddenly all those investigations that have been stonewalled by the agencies, will become unbottlenecked?

This has all been planned out. Perhaps they had hoped to ride it out longer, but they're not going to compromise on Scalito.
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 08:48 AM
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18. They are still busy retouching and manipulating them
Edited on Thu Jan-12-06 08:49 AM by DrDebug
It is scheduled for release around February 2009
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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 01:39 PM
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21. The U.S. Government does not have enough troops in the U.S.
To put down and stop the ensuing disrespect, dissent, and revolt from the U.S. Government by the American people.

The American people will realize that the U.S. Government has been perverted and corrupted into a tool for Corporations and the ruling elite. The U.S. Government would have to face the fact that the American people would not be cowed into obeying anymore.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 06:36 AM
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26. might as well forget about it
ain't gonna happen
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 06:55 AM
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28. They released them
down the Memory Hole.

:evilfrown:
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