Ok, kind of a tin foil hat rant about National Guard on the border

[shadowknows69]

What if it actually works and we stop border crossings cold. What are the corporations going to do without their cheap labor force. Would the companies then be forced to pay a lving wage to americans to do the jobs they supposedly "will not do" OR (put :tinfoilhat: on now) will this be when it's decided that people should work off their debts at these jobs. They could stay in the internment camps that Haliburton was just commisioned to sell until their debt is paid. Just an early morning, not enough coffee in me thought.

[Stand and Fight]

1. Get some coffee... Right away through an IV. n/t

[saltpoint]

2. It could be just a way to jam a sedative booster in the hindends of

Congressional Republicans, who are no doubt grumbling about bolting from the Administration's official agenda.

After all, it's a lot of their careers on the line in November, and they probably aren't very pleased with Dubya's leadership.

This gives them something to chew on and take back home to the district.

It's temporary, it's short-term, and it probably wont' even work, but it's about all the Bush White House seems capable of lately. Ordinarily Uncle Dick would throw in with an ide or two, but he's napping a lot these days and nobody wants to wake him up.

[Coastie for Truth]

3. What if it doesn't do beans about border crossings

but draws down the Guard when the "Big One" hits California (See Note 1) and the "Next Katrina" hits the Continental US? (See Note 2) Will the overstrained Guard be ready?

Notes

1. We live w/in walking distance of the Hayward-Calaveras Fault, and my wife works w/in walking distance of the San Andreas Fault.

2. I was in the Coast Guard in New Orleans - we lived at St. Charles Ave and 6th Street

[havocmom]

4. Big corporations just move their plants over the border.

They save more than just payroll. They don't have to deal with EPA rules, even the poorly enforced ones. They don't have to deal with OSHA and safety regs. They don't have to deal with US worker protection laws. They can require employees to take birth control so they don't have to deal with mommies missing work due to sick kids. It's about a LOT more than payroll savings.

Inside the US, it would hit businesses which do work which has to be done locally, like restaurants, hotels, construction & maintenance, meat packing, larger farming. Most of those are (relatively) smaller businesses, many of whom thought the GOP was on their side. They are finding out the GOP used them just like they used the religious RW fundies. All but the biggest & richest being tossed aside like a worn out work horse.

[radwriter0555]

5. Mexico has very strict laws on US corps setting up shop down there... and

for good reason.

[havocmom]

6. Laws are different from enforcement

Have seen the pollution coming downstream from plants in Mexicointo the US

Have seen way too many trucks which would NEVER pass safety inspections in the US, coming into the US without inspections (thanks, NAFTA)

Have talked to young women who don't seem to have any agencies protecting them.

[Nordmadr]

7. Eventually for keeping people out...or keeping people in?

I'm just wondering?

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