Am I the only one who thinks this "Rove planted the indictment story"

[CatWoman]

mentality is stupid?

Ok, stupid is such a strong word. Fucking sue me.

But I've always maintained that DU gives Rove a lot more credit than he's worth.

[MadAsHellNewYorker]

1. no. I totally agree

I love how we just eat our own :eyes:

[Beetwasher]

2. "Stupid" Is Too Strong A Word?

Heh. I thought you were being nice. :hi:

[CatWoman]

3. !

:hi:

[jumpoffdaplanet]

4. And the "the media isn't picking it up" thing

You'd think after all these years of media merely typing up what the WH tells them, people would stop using that as a ruler.

The media closing it's eyes should tell us Leopold is on the right track.

[demobabe]

32. The Media haven't closed their eyes

The media not picking up on it is not an indicator Leopold is correct. CBS is now saying they cannot verify the story. They also said had NY Times published this story, there would have been a complete media circus, inferring Truthout was not a credible source.

[jumpoffdaplanet]

36. If their eyes aren't closed it's only because,

they have gouged them out of their heads.

[wtmusic]

5. I do give him a lot of credit

and for that reason he would never plant this story.

[alcibiades_mystery]

6. No, you're not the only one

It is stupid.

[brentspeak]

7. Not as stupid as spamming DU with "Rove's getting indicted!" articles

before Patrick Fitzgerald actually announces such an event.

[CatWoman]

11. now, I'm not even about to go on that path with you

[RandomKoolzip]

8. It doesn't have to be Rove himself.

There are dozens of GOP hitmen willing to do Segretti-esque dirty tricks for their boss. Remember Roger Stone?

And yes, unfortunately, I think we've been played.

[Patsy Stone]

9. No

but what's sad is that in this administration one has to actually make a point of negating the possibility. :)

[Jacobin]

10. Yes. As far as I know.

[in_cog_ni_to]

12. He didn't plant the story.

It's stupid. I trust JL and WP a hell of a lot more than I do the Corporate MSM! KKKRove WILL BE indicted.:hi:

[immoderate]

13. Where would the internet be without rumors?

In any case count me with the people who don't think Rove planted the rumor. Sorry.

--IMM

[treestar]

14. Why would this be worth it to him/his supporters

I see all the arguments about reputation and all that but given the attention span of the American public and that most of them never heard of TO, I don't see that it is worth it to him.

Also isn't he very likely to be indicted sometime anyway, so what would be the big deal about spreading it as a rumor - he wouldn't look like much of a victim anyway. It is well known they are working towards it, so the mere timing is the only thing here.

[TheWraith]

15. You're absolutely right.

Rove is really nothing more than a moderately smart guy with absolutely no ethics or morality. The whole "evil genius" persona he likes to wrap himself in is so much bullshit. When he wins, it's because he's willing to stoop to things that no sane human being would even contemplate.

I think that right now, Rove is probably drinking antacid from the bottle because he knows that Fitzgerald can't be swift boated.

[zippy890]

16. I totally agree with you CW

Sheesh, like rove's that powerful, or smart.

I've always thought people thought him more powerful than he is, giving him
more credit than he's worth.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

17. I'm with you...good post!

[Yavin4]

18. Rove Has Done This Before

He did it to CBS. He was born and bred under the dirty tricks era Nixon politics, and he studied under Lee Atwater. He's done this several times. He coordinated the planting of false evidence with Judith Miller to build support for invading Iraq.

It's anything but "stupid". Rove loves it when the opposing side over-reaches.

[Freddie Stubbs]

24. What evidence was there tying Rove to the CBS story?

:shrug:

[CatWoman]

27. I don't doubt your claims

but give me a break here.

Of course the guy is an immoral, devious dirtbag. doesn't take a lot of imagination in order to do immoral, devious acts.

Can we agree that it is inevitable that the dirtbag will soon be indicted?

so what difference does it make?

[EFerrari]

19. Sure. Busy work for idle keyboardists. n/t

[ginnyinWI]

20. excessive paranoia

I agree with you--people give Turdblossom way too much credit. He's a smearmonger and dirt shoveler and evil, but his talents are limited. And as with most liars, they are found out sooner or later.

How did he do as policy chief in 2005? He was off the mark, a failure. He wasn't able to judge the public's feelings on Social Security "reform" or anything else. He was a big failure.

If it doesn't have to do with attacking or smearing a political opponent, he's no good.

[PATRICK]

21. If you look more into Leopold

he sounds as if he would be very aware and afraid of such a possibility. That for starters.

[Midlodemocrat]

22. .

:thumbsup:

[VolcanoJen]

23. The whole thing makes me very, very sleepy.

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

I won't believe Rove's indicted until Fitz appears on TV and tells me so.

And I happen to think Rove is one wily mofo who is capable of anything.

I'm going to go take a nap. :-)

[Avalux]

25. I agree with you. Here's why:

If Rove/cohorts had planted the story, they'd be in full spin mode discounting it, we'd be hearing the other side of it right now and we're not. I still think the indictment announcement will come soon.

[Spazito]

26. I totally agree!

Rove's supposed talents have been so overblown it is beyond ridiculous, imo. He is simply a smarmy low-life catering to those who are like-minded.

[AnarchoFreeThinker]

28. with ya, Catwoman

[Protagoras]

29. It's one of the reasons we should wait for Fitz to actually ANNOUNCE

before we all freak out.

"Is it soup yet? Not yet!"

[Justice Is Comin]

30. Jason wouldn't have

just picked his sources up off a street corner. These would be people he has cultivated and come to trust over numerous tip-offs and time.

Rove being able to influence that group would have the same odds of success as Bush being accepted into an Al Qida camp.

[Julius Civitatus]

31. I believe this may be a Rovian plant - Here's the clue...

Rove is NOTORIOUS for this kind of shit.

Notice that Rove's spokesman did not deny the story until it was published. Any attempts by Truthout to confirm with Karl Rove's spokesman Mark Corallo was ignored. A day after it's publishes and reaches critical mass on the web, then Corallo comes out to deny it with a vengeance, destroying the credibility of the source.

This is, once again, TYPICAL ROVIAN MANEUVER. By the book.

[nancyr]

33. agreed

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

34. Occam's Razor makes it all rather silly.

It's like the idea that the 9-11 jets shot missles into the WTC a split second before crashing into them. OK, it's not that silly, but it's still pretty silly.

[leftofthedial]

35. if it is media-related disinformation, spin, lies about the bush gang

or ratfucking

then Rove is behind it

He is not a strategic contributor--he is the dirty tricks, disinformation, media control guy

he is Lee Atwater's "prize" student

what he does in the political process needs to be codified as treason, which it certainly is. it poisons democracy.