BREAKING, WP: ROVE'S FATE WILL BE LEARNED VERY SOON

[Halliburton]

<snip>
Miami, Fla.: The blogs are abuzz with reports of Karl Rove's impending (some say actual)indictment. What's the story?

Tom Edsall: I think we will know very soon, perhaps as soon as early afternoon. No guarantee, however.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2006/05/11/DI2006051101546.html

[truebrit71]

1. It needs to happen today. It will TOTALLY deflate Monkey-Boy's...

..attempt to read the teleprompter tonight...

[in_cog_ni_to]

6. It won't be today. The Corporate MSM doesn't want to upset the psycho

tonight. :eyes: It'll be after the speech.

[Avalux]

11. If it breaks this afternoon - no way the MSM will stay quiet

I don't think they're that loyal to the WH; this is a juicy story that's had people gossiping all weekend. And I bet ABC will be the first to report it, considering the new revelation today their journalists are being wiretapped.

[tulsakatz]

21. besides..........

...the media can't control when news breaks...........Fitzgerald has control of that! They may not want to cover it but if it does happen today, they may not have much choice!!

I KNEW he was going down!!

[katty]

53. this IS breaking news-no way they can hold back

[Canuckistanian]

15. If Fitz holds that press conference - they can't ignore it

And Fitz doesn't care about what's going on politically.

When he's ready, he's ready.

[katty]

51. right, the dollar is falling, poll#'s in the crapper-this is bombshell

[MelissaB]

2. Interesting...

Thanks! :hi:

[AndyA]

3. I heard Bush is under extreme pressure to make this speech tonight,

and that he really, really doesn't want to do it. If Rove is indicted, and the announcement is made today, the timing couldn't be worse for Bush and the GOP.

I'm really very happy about this prospect... :)

[DBoon]

17. then we will get to see bush barf on his shoes

on national TV?

[wryter2000]

24. Why not?

We already watched him slobber through a debate with Kerry.

[darkstar]

18. Interesting....

Truly. Care to expand w/ a link? Or if insider story--and you feel compfortable--a few more details.

TIA

:toast:

ds

[tulsakatz]

23. yeah, he doesn't really want to do much about.........

...the immigrant situation because he has been trying to gain the latino vote. But now the Republicans want action. Also, the minutemen said if Bush doesn't build a fence along the border, they said they would build it themselves! I think that's the only reason why he wants to use the Nat'l Guard along the border.........because he doesn't want some vigilante group doing the job the govt should be doing.

I also heard he talked to Fox and Fox was not pleased about him using the Guard along the border. Apparently he told Fox that the Guard would only be there temporarily. Whether or not he actually meant that is anyone's guess........

[katty]

52. i'll be ecstatic

[boobooday]

4. Well that's intriguing

Thanks for finding and posting!

[Patsy Stone]

5. Perhaps, perhaps, perhaps... n/t

[Sparkle]

7. That's not saying much.

He'll get indicted or he won't. Of course we knew that already.

[Jacobin]

8. This is kinda circular, no?

Jeeze..

[darkstar]

12. No...I mean yes...I mean

well, you know what I mean. I agree, that is.

And hello only real-life-DUer-I've-ever-met buddy.

:hi:

[Jacobin]

50. Hi Darkstar

Haven't heard from you since all the hurricanes. We got pounded by Rita over here, but almost back to normal.

Hope things are going well your way.

:hi:

[bigtree]

9. chomp

tasty

[usregimechange]

10. Soon, very soon. I really really can't wait.

[DFW]

62. I had the pleasure

...of meeting and chatting briefly with Claire McCaskill last Wednesday.
She is not only very pleasant, but also very smart and aware. Missouri
would be very lucky to have her replace Jim ("lack of") Talent. I wish
we had her instead of the useless Ms. Hutchison.

[PATRICK]

13. Rove could delay it

by taking time to respond to possible queries connected to a planned indictment. I think this is what H2O Man's post speculated upon. That would be small molehill of a victory in timing which they have in the past used to great, obscenely absurd advantage in the past. Fitzpatrick, after all, is not out to ruin Bush's speech. Rove is in the business of winning poltical points unfairly. I would not be surprised if sealed indictments were not annnounced today nor surprised if the news downplays the date they were indeed written down to play the deceptive Rove game one more time. Nor would I be shocked to see Leopold and Truthout to be attacked no matter what the facts or a stony MSM silence to settle over any vindication they might earn.

[bigtree]

20. that's right on the mark

rove could, and would if he could, delay it.

The indictment could be a negotiating tool of Fitz's to elicit more from rove before proceeding. If there's one indictment, there could be others to follow if rove doesn't do business with Fitz.

[Catherine Vincent]

29. Fitzgerald

:-)

[foreverdem]

30. Thanks Cat

I was going to do that myself.:hi:

[ronnykmarshall]

14. IF it happens ....

and I say IF .... I hope it's before the speech do the media will be all over it.

[HereSince1628]

16. Do I get pundit status if I say Rove "will but maybe won't" be indicted

this afternoon.

Edsall isn't really saying anything in this post.

I believe Fitzgerald is in court again tomorrow dealing with Libby pretrial stuff. The team might be busy on the prep for that.

[muriel_volestrangler]

19. "I think ... No guarantee"

Was that really worth 'Breaking' and an all caps title? One guys' opinion?

[maddezmom]

22. No guarantee, however

looks like he's covering his bases.

[Carni]

25. JEEEE-SUS H CHRIST ANNOUNCE ALREADY!

ARRRRGGGHHHH! Would they frickin announce one way or another already?

Damn this is I.R.R.I.T.A.T.I.N.G.!

[PDittie]

26. It won't be today.

It may not be tomorrow. But it will be Wednesday or Thursday or Friday (afternoon, late).

In other words, this week. Maybe.

[Harper_is_Bush]

27. My loose interpretation of this is

he WILL be indicted.

[Trajan]

28. What is up with your schizophrenic posts today ?

You post this, then you post that Leopold is 'BS' ....

I dont get it ...

[Taxloss]

32. Maybe he's keeping an open mind. n/t

[Codeine]

46. Perhaps he's not being doctrinaire about it. nt

[bdamomma]

31. what if they come up with the indictment on Friday afternoon

this corrupt administration loves to do this stuff on Friday afternoons.

[dubyaD40web]

33. It's not up to the administration to indict.

It's up to the Grand Jury and Fitz.

[karlrschneider]

37. Well, Bushco isn't handling it.

Of course you're right about them being sneaky etc.

[Botany]

34. Quit teasing me

[Beth in VT]

35. Last time Fitzgerald announced the press conference ahead of time.

I think he will give us a day or two's notice.

[hang a left]

36. Actually it was posted on the website for the case....

OT and BTW

Anyone have the link to that site. My bookmarks are gone. Thanks

[robbyrob79]

38. Maybe.....just maybe

They won't indict him and he'll spill his guts about all the wrongdoing that's been going on in the Whitehouse. To a guy like Rove, the prospect of going to jail, even a country club jail, has got to be awfully scary. It would certainly be nice to see him turn squealer on the Bush administration. I wonder if he's as loyal to the cause as he seems.

[newyawker99]

64. Hi robbyrob79!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

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[KingFlorez]

41. Nevermind

fool is gone

[Blue_In_AK]

42. That didn't take long...

Wonder how many alerts got sent? One from here.

[MoonRiver]

44. One from here. Even it's handle was a dead give away.

Stupid is as stupid does. :rofl:

[MoonRiver]

43. Such dimwitted mentality is so boring. Get a life will ya.

:boring::boring::boring::boring::boring::boring::boring::boring:

[Blackhatjack]

40. What is most likely going on now is ....

Rove and his counsel are pouring over a showing of evidence Fitz has presented to them which he intends to use at trial, and a plea offer with a short drop dead date.

Rove and his lawyer are probably looking into their crystal ball and trying to determine if they can bank on a Presidential pardon at this stage of Bush's term with such low poll numbers.

Rove and lawyer are obviously at the end of playing for time. Decision time.

[Colonel Bat Guano]

47. This news cycle...

...I understand that Rove and co would want to delay it at least for a day, hopefully two or three, so Bush can get a "boost" from the speech. At least to not have the speech shown up by Rove's frog march.

But how does Bush get a boost anyway? Does anybody like this "military at the border" plan? Anybody? Even those who may be open to it, how's it going to work that makes sense?

I don't think this is going to go over like they're hoping it will, even with wingnuts. The military at the border thing is scary and impractical (where do the troops come from?). The guest worker thing seems guaranteed to piss off ALL sides of the issue (wingnuts will think it's amnesty for millions of criminals; others will say it's a badly planned route to citizenship). That's part one.

Part two is, the stealth big story of the day...the deadline for medicare plan enrollment. Want to bet there'll be some stories on the news featuring confused old people trying to get it done and failing? (I live in Florida, I would expect at least some local coverage along those lines.) Bush refused to extend the deadline, so the continuing chaos here is on his head.

Don't be so impatient for Rove. Bush is going to have a bad enough day and evening, guaranteed. Rove's indictment would make it catastrophic....but in all the post-speech analysis on the networks, how positive can it really get?

[PegDAC]

58. It's ridiculous.

Bush wants to stretch our already overstretched National Guard, But he drastically cut the budget intended to hire additional Border Patrol agents! Sheesh!

:eyes:

[wiley]

61. You're Right. Love your handle!

[maxsolomon]

45. snore

i'm tired of waiting.

i'm going to get zen on it - it happens when it happens.

fitz obviously has.

[caledesi]

54. My popcorn is getting stale. I want my instant grats! LOL! nt

[savemefromdumbya]

48. Is this the lull before the storm

or are we stuck in the Doldrums

[Garbo 2004]

49. "BREAKING?" WaPo pol ed says "maybe." "no guarantee." WaPo's

been "breaking" this "very soon" meme for over a week. Did a preemptive "get ahead of the news before it breaks" story the weekend before last as I recall. As did Newsweek, NYT among others.

[Bitter Cup]

56. Exactly

this sort of perpetual stretching is killing us. How about we get the actual facts then pound on them rather than all the endless speculation.

[enough already]

55. god, I need this so bad.

If Will and Jason are wrong I don't know what I'll do. I'm so tired of these nazis laughing at us while they break the law.

[Divine Discontent]

57. oh gosh.. just get it over with!!

we KNOW he's getting indicted, just tell us already, does he have THAT much stuff to "work" on in the White House???


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[wiley]

59. Media will not touch Rove until Fitz announces. (R)s praying otherwise

Laura Bush comments that some people in the media seem to be enjoying her husband's non-existent woes. The Pukes have ALWAYS claimed the media is a liberal sewer. Fitz must remain untainted by any perception of partisanship. This is about the law.

Pukes are praying that someones (like, say, a Dan Rather) in the media will gang up and gloat and prematurely divulge the workings of a grand jury.

As soon as they have been formally briefed, they will cut into Bush's immigration sppech with breaking news if they have to. Then again, the issue of immigration is so important, do we want anyone to let Bush and the Pukes off the hook by celebrating Rove's demise in the streets?

I get the taste of blood in my mouth when I'm thinking of chowing down on a medium rare steak as well. I'm willing to fast for a few more days, or however long it takes.

Think about it.

[lonestarnot]

60. Pig in a poke tomorrow's the day!

[upi402]

63. excellent, there's time to perfect a neurosis or two

:freak:

[appnzllr]

65. Truthout

According to Truthout.org, Karl Rove's attorneys have been served with indictments. They have sources very close to the investigation, and they are standing by their story. They say that Fitz will announce it soon.