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corporate_mike Donating Member (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 01:12 PM
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WP: In Venezuela, Locking Up the Vote
Hugo Chavez, who is up for reelection as Venezuelan president this year, kicked off his new campaign with an old tactic: criminal trials of his leading opponents. For years Latin America's would-be socialist revolutionary has been nursing along prosecutions of politicians, human rights activists, labor leaders, journalists and election monitors. Some have ended in prison sentences, but many have not: Instead, Chavez toys with his targets, holding the threat of jail over their heads while avoiding the embarrassment it would create for his apologists in Washington and Europe.

Now, with a vote on his tenure coming up, the president's prosecutors are back. First up in court was the election-monitoring group Sumate, which has meticulously documented Chavez's manipulation of the electoral system. The caudillo ordered up the trial of its top leaders on treason charges during his weekly television show two years ago; Maria Corina Machado and Alejandro Plaz have been in and out of court every few months since.

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Contrary to his own propaganda, Chavez has reason to worry. He has never enjoyed overwhelming support in Venezuela; his ratings have mostly fluctuated a few points above and below 50 percent. A tidal wave of corruption revelations, infrastructure failures and sensational crimes has dominated attention in Caracas in recent weeks. Chavez is rooting for the opposition boycott Capriles opposes; he recently said that if it occurs he will propose abolishing the constitutional limit on his tenure.

"Chavez wants the world to think his only opposition is Bush," says Capriles. "But that's not true. There are lots of people in Venezuela who think differently from Chavez. Their votes should be cast and they should be counted, so the world can see them."

No wonder the independent organization dedicated to a fair vote count got the first court date this year.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/09/AR2006040901102.html
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 02:27 PM
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1. yawnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 02:30 PM
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2. LOL, these editorials are beginning to sound very desperate
One has to wonder why? Guess the Kool Ade isn't working as well as it used to.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 03:09 PM
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9. You Have To Keep Repeating Things To Catapult The Propaganda
I'm waiting for Corporate Mike to start posting LTTE's. I'm sure their is an almost inexhaustible supply of them from Podunk town newspapers all across America written by people that have consumed the same flavor of Kool-Aid® Mikey likes.

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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 03:11 PM
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10. LOL, too true, I think the catapult seems to be broken so
spamming is in order!
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 03:22 PM
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11. By definition, I don't think it's called spamming, but Astroturfing™
Edited on Mon May-15-06 03:23 PM by BrotherBuzz
The term, said to have been used first in this context by former U.S. Senator Lloyd Bentsen (D-Texas), is wordplay based on "grassroots" efforts, which are truly spontaneous undertakings, largely sustained by private persons (and not politicians, governments, corporations, or public relations firms). "AstroTurf" refers to the bright green artificial grass used in some sports stadiums, so "astroturfing" refers to artificial grassroots efforts.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 03:48 PM
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13. True, re LTTEs, I was thinking more of the spamming of the
right wing editorials on DU at every opportunity. I certainly agree that one can reasonably expect Astroturfing on Chavez as well, done to back up the talking point editorials. It is often done in concert, one with the other.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 03:51 PM
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14. Well, then there's that!
:rofl:
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 03:57 PM
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16. More of gullible Mike's right-wing editorials- Usual hit & run-Pathetic!
Edited on Mon May-15-06 04:12 PM by LaPera
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 02:30 PM
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3. There are lots of people in Venezuela who think differently from Chavez.
Yeah, many of whom participated in a CIA-hatched coup. Chavez won his elections fairly, as international observers attested, and this sounds like a hit piece. Chavez certainly won a lot more convincingly that the fascist who is running our country.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 02:31 PM
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4. I've never seen you post anything BUT anti-Chavez propaganda
Aren't there rw sites that you could be posting that stuff, or are you paid to plant it there, too?
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 02:33 PM
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5. More anti-Chavez propaganda.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 02:40 PM
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6. by Jackson Diehl...
Edited on Mon May-15-06 02:43 PM by SidDithers
favourite of powerline
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/000495.php

and PNAC
http://www.newamericancentury.org/europe-20030804.htm

Surely you're not using right-wing sources to post anti-Chavez propaganda, are you corporate_mike?

Sid

Edit:

More on Diehl from scoop
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO0604/S00288.htm

"Former Washington Post Latin America correspondent Jackson Diehl – and current Post columnist – has added to his already tarnished credentials as a chronically-biased source on regional affairs by writing a series of highly prejudiced columns on the Post’s editorial page on hemispheric issues, all from a markedly rightwing bent. These columns have done little to help the Post distinguish itself from the Wall Street Journal, which boasts a reputation for having one of the most hardline editorial pages in the country. Mr. Diehl’s contributions have only helped to confirm this fact. In particular, he has conducted himself in a flagrantly non-thoughtful manner when discussing the democratically elected government of Hugo Chávez in Venezuela. "

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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 03:06 PM
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8. Kick...
to show again what kind of sources corporate_mike is supplying with his posts.

Sid
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 03:28 PM
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12. busted!
Bravo...
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nealmhughes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 02:42 PM
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7. Dear Mike,
Here is a bit about the Bushista Machado from an article with facts. She actually probably has committed treason by attending the junta leaders pseudo-inauguration after the 2 day coup against the legitimate Chavez government. I provide all for the evidence. There is her signature scanned and posted for the world to know she endorsed the junta.

Don't you understand that there is a tremendous opposition to Hugo and the revolution underway in Venezuela? How does he tolerate them? Very nicely, actually, compared to what most coup leaders would face in most other countries, thank you. Maybe that is because he is a democrat, and a Christian.

Read this:

http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/articles.php?artno=1466

the US Grooming Next Year’s Anti-Chávez Presidential Candidate?
Democracy vs Bush-o-cracy in Venezuela

Wednesday, Jun 01, 2005




By: Jonah Gindin – Venezuelanalysis.com

--snip--

According to Machado, Súmate is an objective non-partisan civil association. Súmate is the third NGO founded and directed by Machado, including one that worked with Venezuelan municipalities in the 1990s to privatize homeless shelters. To date, Súmate’s only political experience has been to agitate for the removal of Chávez by way of a recall referendum last August, though Chávez won nonetheless with 60 per cent of the vote. Their controversial role conducting flawed exit polls during the referendum—specifically criticized by the Carter Center and OAS observation missions in Venezuela—and their subsequent rejection of the referendum results, though both the Carter Center and the OAS declared them to be free and fair, have cast doubt on Súmate’s professed “neutrality.” When asked why Súmate has worked exclusively with the Venezuelan opposition since its inception in 2002, Machado said that their overtures to the government were regularly rebuffed. She did not specify whether her presence at the swearing-in of the illegal government of Pedro Carmona during a short-lived April 2002 coup may have sullied her reputation with Chávez’s government.

On April 11th of that year Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez—democratically elected in 1998 and again in 2000—was overthrown in what proved to be a short-lived coup. Before he was restored to power by massive popular protests and loyal elements of the military, however, a “transition government” was set up, and business leader Pedro Carmona Estanga sworn in as provisional President. Carmona’s first act as provisional Venezuelan leader was to abolish the Bolivarian Constitution—ratified by popular referendum in 1999—as well as the Supreme Court, the National Assembly and the Human Rights Ombudsman in what became known as the “Carmona Decree.” Present at Carmona's swearing-in ceremony were several hundred prominent Venezuelans, including business-leaders, media barons, politicians, and members of “civil society,” whose signatures (below) confirmed their attendance. Machado was one of the latter.



"Attendance at the Swearing-in of the Governing Junta." Maria Corina Machado's signature appears bottom left.
Source: Venezuelafoia.info

Less than 48-hours after coming to power, however, Carmona’s illegal junta was overthrown, and as the now defunct April 11th-government sped out the backdoor of the palace into their tinted SUVs and back into Caracas’ posh gated communities, his allies began back-pedaling. In a recent article, Machado told Newsday that she did not know what she was signing, saying she innocently signed a blank piece of paper she had assumed was a reception sheet. Yesterday, her story changed again. Still flushed from her tête-á-tête with George W. Bush, Machado claimed that the Venezuelan government “know clearly that I did not sign the decree. I was not present at the event,” she said. Yet the evidence would appear to suggest otherwise. . .

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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 03:54 PM
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15. And the rightist fascist have been locking up and stealing our votes Mikey
Edited on Mon May-15-06 04:07 PM by LaPera
RIGHT HERE, MIKEY in the good old USA...But you can't find any stories on that, why is that?
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 04:05 PM
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17. corporate_mike is an addy I wouldn't trust with a 50 fifty foot pole
this is exactly the kind of BushCo crappola that is being used to justify an invasion or Covert action to overthrow a democratically elected leader who isn't doing business as usual with the IMF and the Multi-Nationals who possess a century long standing attitude of "ownership" of natural resources of other soverign nations. Just call them 3rd World and Multi-Nationals (formerly known as U.S. based Businesses, Dole, C&H, Chevron et all) can no longer rob the people of their lands and their resources for their own PERSONAL wealth at the expense of the people of these nations.

But this is an oversimplification of what is really going on.

To get at the real story of this situation with Venezuela currently, one must read Greg Palasts new book, (along others such as Confessions of an Economic Hit Man, very important read) and listen to a short interview he gave with Amy Goodman on today's edition of Democracy Now!

Just do a google on Amy Goodman Democracy Now! May 15, 2006. Then click on the segment with Greg Palast. SAVE THE AUDIO! Pass it on!! Listen to it carefully - information also includes how and why the Bush Co will rig the 2008 elections and they are working on it right now.

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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 04:06 PM
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18. Washington Post

politicians - those involved in the 2002 coup against Chavez

human rights activists - probably educated at the School Of The Americas. they talk a lot about Human Rights.

labor leaders - from the fake union that was a front for Chavez opposition, trying to cause massive strikes.

journalists - probably those who have been slandering Chavez

election monitors - if our RW can corrupt the election system then their RW probably can to. they don't control the machines so they need another way to influence the vote.
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