Am I going to have to carry one of the tamper-proof ID cards too?

[NNN0LHI]

I don't quite understand this? I was born here but I have kind of a year round olive colored complexion due to my Italian ancestry. If someone comes up and asks me for my tamper-proof ID card and I don't have one what happens? Is it Tijuana here I come or what?

Don

[Jed Dilligan]

1. My question is when they ask you for your papers at a checkpoint

will a German or Russian accent be used?

[NJ_Lib]

2. Or maybe Chinese... n/t

[lindisfarne]

3. Could you please post a link which discusses what these tamper-

proof ID cards are?

(When traveling on I-8 in California and AZ (and perhaps further east?) as well as on I-5 and I-15 between San Diego and Los Angeles, there are "internal" border control stations. I've always wondered what happens if a US citizen who happens to strike the guards as "perhaps an illegal" gets stopped and that person doesn't have ID (if a driver, then ID beyond a drivers license (which can easily be obtained illegally)).

I find these internal border stations disgusting. US citizens are *not* required to carry ID, unless driving (some states don't even require you to have your drivers license on you, although I think in both CA and AZ, you do). How can someone be stopped and detained just for travelling along an interstate?

(The only thing that might help Caucasians understand the issue of being detained is the "no fly list": the inconveniences caused by being on the no-fly list have hit Caucasians too, and I wonder if that's why there's been such an outcry regarding the problems and inconveniences caused to people whose name happens to be on the no-fly list.

I'm surprised more lawsuits aren't filed against border control by citizens detained (even for a few minutes) along the interstate.

[NNN0LHI]

4. I haven't read anything about them yet just talked about on TV

Bush's White House spokeswoman brought them up just before I posted this on CNN.

Don

[Nobody]

5. I'm doubly in trouble

I can pass for Latina and Middle Eastern. I've been approached in skyways and greeted in Spanish (I would try to respond in the same language, but my Spanish is very rusty) and at a Mediterranean deli, I was asked which Mediterranean country I was from. I'm neither of the two, but I'm honored that someone assumed I was one of them.

I'm going to have to make it a point never to carry ID with me. I can't wait to raise a stink with the first "Let me see proof of citizenship" request.

[treestar]

6. Don't sign anything, go to the hearing where you have the chance

to show cause why you should not be deported. Hopefully you will be able to produce evidence that you are a US citizen. If we are still under the rule of law, that will mean you are not deportable.

This is why it is not to our advantage to insist that aliens somehow are bereft of human rights to justice. If aliens aren't considered humans under the constitution, neither are we. All the government has to do is label us aliens. That is why it is not so horrible that when ICE detains someone, they have the right to a hearing before the immigration judge in order to either prove they are a citizen or prove that though an alien, they qualify for some forms of relief that exist under the law.

[lindisfarne]

9. But why should you be put in a position of spending your valuable

time at a hearing? You'[re not reimbursed for lost wages or the lost opportunity to spend that time doing something else.

[Generic Other]

7. I call myself Generic Other because I pass for any "other"

usually any ethnic group my government is currently fighting...

So they will dump me in Tijuana if I don't have no papers now? Yow.

[Johonny]

8. Wow

A large guest worker program with ID cards and a path that might lead to citizenship... that sounds expensive. Anyways how does he know they'll only take low paying jobs? Is he going to regulate that too? This sounds like another huge expensive program. Is he going to pay for it with more tax cuts?