The Da Vinci Delusion...This is REALLY, REALLY weird

[rpannier]

I have NEVER heard (or read) where the author claims his book is fact. As far as I know, it's a work of fiction. But, that doesn't seem to ever stop the lunatics and fringe morons from coming out of the woodwork.

It claims to be based on "FACT" but The Da Vinci Code, a runaway bestseller and upcoming major motion picture, presents audacious assertions that turn history on its ear.

It claims that Jesus and Mary Magdalene were man and wife and had a child, that the Bible is "a product of man…. not of God," and that church leaders made Christ divine by a narrow vote in the fourth century.

Is it true?

Author and minister Dr. D. James Kennedy leads a fact-checking expedition in the new television documentary, The Da Vinci Delusion, that airs May 13, 14 nationwide. The program features authors, theologians and historians who test Da Vinci Code claims against evidence from history and the Bible.

They left out part of the description of 'd. james kennedy' It should have read:
Author, minister, crank, crackpot and denizen of bizarro world d. james kennedy...

http://www.davincidelusion.tv/?mid=

[central scrutinizer]

1. That would be the Duh - Vinci Duh - lusion

[CGrantt57]

2. Yanno...

I'd tell this Asshat,

"Look, when I checked the book out, it was in the FICTION SECTION, MORON!!! That means IT'S NOT REAL!!"

Sheesh...what a maroon...what an imbessil...

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

3. There are a lot of people out there who are really insecure...

about other people thinking about Jesus outside of their own narrow point of view.

[wakeme2008]

4. While the book is FICTION just ask any fundie to prove

Jesus did not have sex with anybody and watch them blow up. :evilgrin:

[pretzel4gore]

11. you know, of course, that Jesus never ...ahem....

it's very silly to mention this, but back in the olden days, when Jesus' nature was being debated, there was a faction who believed Jesus only appeared human (this was considered blasphemy by the church) and never really ate or sweated or peed etc....one of the questions concerned elimination and urination etc-and the then freeper types howled that NO! NO! NO! Jesus did not! NOOOO! ------ ....it drove them nuts to confront Jesus' basic human (or mammalian) nature! I recall being amused reading about this long ago (the fact was, Jesus seemed to have been almost devoid of self conciousness about his earthly desires and needs, indeed he seemed to luxuriate in the simplest pleasures; 2k years later, Gandhi in fact celebrated this aspect of Christ, and Gandhi was no fool...)

[magellan]

5. How do you check the claims of a work of fiction

...against the Bible, the contents of which were decided on and manipulated by man?

[hopeisaplace]

18. exactly, and how many versions of the bible are there ..26 or something?

I'm a believer in something greater than this place, but to say this
book, the bible, provides these answers...I doubt it. But that's just me.

[Midnight Rambler]

6. Do y'all think these fruitcakes really believe this shit?

Do they honestly think that a work of fiction is such a grave threat to Christianity? Or, like everything else are they just using this to promote themselves?

[Boomer]

7. This has been making nuts for the past week

"Tune in for a special on the controversial DaVinci Code blah blah blah...."

How can it be "controversial"? It's FICTION! It would only be controversial if the author claimed this was a historical text. But it's FICTION, which makes it no more controversial than Harry Potter or Lord of the Rings.

Sheesh.

[CoffeeCat]

8. Yepper...the wacknuts...

...are igniting a coordinated, massive attack to discredit a book that is
FICTION.

Yes folks, the loon jobs will be out in full force--tearing down and destroying
the irrefutable facts in a book that openly claims it contains no irrefutable facts.

Next week! The crazy weasels launch a media campaign to debunk the storyline
of "Ice Age: The Meltdown."

Should be riveting!

[wishlist]

9. Church leaders are worried over Tom Hanks in Ron Howard's movie

Kennedy is main spokesman for the conservative Presbyterians in America.

This denomination put out a magazine article recently stating that they are particularly worried over the potential popularity and influence of the movie due to presence of Tom Hanks and director Ron Howard who appeal to mainstream conservatives.

[NoodleyAppendage]

10. The Xtian Delusion ... REALLY, REALLY, Weird.

Xtians will spend countless hours attempting to debunk a work of fiction about a work of fiction. Go figure.

BTW - you won't hear a peep from these same Xtians about the newly discovered (and authenticated) Gospel of Judas, which paints Judas in a different light than that of the King James Bible. This newly discovered Gospel is prima facie evidence that the modern Bible is inaccurate and the result of centuries of editing and politically motivated additions.

J

[tocqueville]

12. Heckuva' job, Brownie

"Dan Brown was interviewed by Matt Lauer on NBC’s Today Show, who asked, “How much of this is based on reality in terms of things that actually occurred?”

Brown responded, “Absolutely all of it. Obviously Robert Langdon is fictional, but all of the art, architecture, secret rituals, secret societies—all of that is historical fact.“

http://www.booksattransworld.co.uk/danbrown/interview.htm

The Book is presented as a novel; therefore, Brown has no footnotes to question his claims.
The “Fact” statement allows the reader to assume the “Facts” in the book are true except for the fictional story line. The reader then gives consent to these “Facts” allowing false claims about history, Jesus and Christianity to be weaved into the story"

the problem is what Dan Brown depicts as "facts" aren't. It's not the question of Da Vinci painting Mona Lisa, it's the location of churches, the significance given to artifacts when it's obvious and common knowledge that those artifacts have another function or don't date from the period they are supposed to be, and most of all the secret societies (except Opus Dei), specially the basic plot round the Priory of Sion.

I quote again D Brown :

“Absolutely all of it. Obviously Robert Langdon is fictional, but all of the art, architecture, secret rituals, secret societies— all of that is historical fact."

This is a lie and has been debunked in detail by historians from many different countries (amazing that the US MSM pick that up NOW, must be for the Rove indictment...) .

If Dan Brown had said "it's all fiction even if you can find the actual places on the map", the story had been different and probably not a best-seller.

Dan Brown is a cheat.

[Mr_Spock]

13. Well, the more they hate it, the more times I'm going to go see it

Need to learn up on my new bible ya know :rofl:

I hate fundies.

[johnaries]

14. It's in front of me and I'm looking at it right now.

He has a page titled FACT:

He states as fact that The Priory of Scion is a real organization, and that a parchment was discovered which named da Vinci, Newton, etc. as members. This is a fact. He doesn't mention that the document is considered a fake by some experts.

He also states that Opus Dei exists, and has been the subject of recent controversy for several reasons. This is also a fact.

These are the only items he states as "fact".

[Arugula Latte]

15. You can't believe Brown's fiction, but you MUST believe their

crazy piece of fiction (you know, that one full of smiting and incest) -- the Bible. :eyes:

[azurnoir]

16. TDVC is a work of fiction

however what Dan Brown did mix alot of popular grail mythology with things that do have some possible basis in recent archaeological finds. That christianity is a "designer" religion is true. The first council of Nicea in 325AD picked the gospels that would be allowed and threw out the ones weren't. It was thought these gospels were lost after the library of Alexandria was burned. In the 1940's a jar full of scrolls were found by a shepherd, the Dead sea scrolls or Nag Hamdi scrolls turned out to be a somewhat different New Testament. What D James, the Pope, and others all worked up is the possibility of a different christianity. No, these scrolls don't say Jesus & MaryM were married but, Mary M does have a gospel and plays a much bigger role as a disciple and I don't believe there is anything about her being a prostitute.

This link is to the site and the Thunder Perfect Mind is part of texts

http://www.webcom.com/gnosis/naghamm/thunder.html

edited for Baaaaad typo

[malaise]

17. All books are products of men or women

what maes the bible different.

[Rainscents]

19. Tell them to grow up!!!