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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 10:19 PM
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HOWARD DEAN on JON STEWART NOW. 11:19 EST PM
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 10:19 PM
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1. Self-Kick
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 10:23 PM
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2. Stewart: you are SO not taking over the house!
after Dean pulls out doorknob flyer

oops

bad PR, Howard

he's taking it well, though
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 10:24 PM
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5. Dean is getting TONS of Support from the Audience!
Talking about wire-tapping now.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 10:23 PM
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3. got it, thx
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 10:25 PM
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6. Not a Prob, LSK.
:hi:
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pepperbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 10:24 PM
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4. ok so the freeps will have fun with
the buy one get one free pizza door hanger thing...

:)
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 10:39 PM
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12. Have to agree with you. I work for the dem party in my county
and I honestly feel that these doorhangers will be a waste of my time. They will end up in the same place that the tired old junk mail ends up. Why are we wasting the efforts of precious few party workers to do this, not to mention the killing of millions of trees?

During the election in my county (one of the few in Florida that went solidly for Kerry) we stirred up a lot of interest with barbecues and movie showings (Michael Moore, etc.) and posters on the streets. And we involved kids and musical bands, etc. Not only were we involved in more than passing around useless paper junk, the community came around to see what we were cooking. And they stayed...some to argue, but many to share in our fellowship and message.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 12:13 AM
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17. I was active in local races and ballot measures
and the door hangers were very popular and useful. It beat sticking the flyers in the mail boxes - prohibited, anyway - or on the driveway or under that mat where they could fly away. And for some, it beat having to actually knock on someone's door and talking.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 12:32 AM
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18. I am working on a local election also
I think that is an excellent idea.

I thought it went pretty well, it had to be light
and it was. That is why I like Howard, it wasn't a bring it on time.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 12:32 AM
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19. I am working on a local election also
I think that is an excellent idea.

I thought it went pretty well, it had to be light
and it was. That is why I like Howard, it wasn't a bring it on time.
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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 10:26 PM
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7. Great job Howard!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 10:28 PM
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10. Knocked on a Million Doors in all
Edited on Mon May-15-06 10:29 PM by zidzi
50 states and leaving a door hanger with what Democrats will do when they win back the House and Senate in 2006 and the Presidency in 2008!
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 10:26 PM
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8. Fabulous interview! It reminds me of why I like Howard Dean...
He's refreshing
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 10:29 PM
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11. Have you noticed Dean gets better with every interview?
He really seems comfortable, not only on TDS but on other MSM interviews too!

I really like him. Yea, I know, I was always a Dean supporter, but instead of my support waning, it's getting stronger!
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 10:27 PM
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9. Watching! God I like that man, well in fact both Jon & Howard.
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kitp Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 11:06 PM
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13. Sorry, but I hated it.
Okay, I completely disagree. I hated the interview. I'm angry with Dean and the Dems. I agree with Stewart, we are so not taking back the House and Senate.

Dean did what Dems always do. First we agree that the manufactured issue is real. Then we agree with the way in which the Reps have defined that issue. Then we quibble about the 'methods' to solve the issue. It nauseates me.

First, Dean implicitly agreed that there is an immigration problem. I don't believe there is, certainly not the way the Reps are talking about it...those horrible little brown people sneaking into America with the sole goal of destroying us.

Second, Dean agrees that we all want better border security. I completely disagree. Why do we need more security? What exactly is the danger we are all facing? I don't feel any danger from the people from the south. I see the whole argument as racist and hypocritical. I don't want more border security.

Third, Dean agrees that we need to be a country of laws. Rule of Law, Rule of Law...where have I heard that before.

So, Dean has agreed that the totally imaginary 'problem' invented by the Reps specifically for this election, immigration, is real. He has supported the Reps claim that our borders are porous and that we need more security. He has fallen in step with the Administration that these people here illegally need to be dealt with in some way - removing them or legalizing them or whatever, he wasn't specific.

Could we have stronger support for Bush's fantasy problem of the month?

Gad, it makes me puke. Here's what he could have said.

"It's funny to hear this president talk about border security. Hasn't he been saying for 5 years how he is protecting us? Is he now admitting that he has failed? It's interesting to hear this president talk about adding people to protect our borders. Just last year he cut almost 10,000 border patrol. Is he now saying that was a huge mistake? That by doing so he was putting us all in danger?"

That would have been better, no?

Oh, Stewart asked Dean specifically what the Dems would do on this issue. Did you get it? I didn't hear it. All I heard was that he doesn't like the president's plan and that deporting 12 million people would be impractical. That's a plan? That's all he's got to give the audience when asked a specific question?

On the NSA thing, he stated that of course we want the government to listen in to al-Qaida's phone calls, just not Aunt Sadie’s. Please. Again he is simply supporting the government's claim that listening in on phone calls has anything to do with terrorists or with security and just disagreeing with the extent to which they are doing so. To most people, they would prefer the government err on the side of precaution.

It would have been better had he said this.

"It's interesting to hear this president attempt to justify spying on millions of Americans. Originally he said no wiretaps would happen without court approval. He was lying when he said that. When we found out he wasn’t getting court approval he said that they were only listening to foreign phone calls, not domestic. He was lying when he said that. Why on Earth would we now believe him when he says that this has anything to do with terrorists or security? It sounds to me more like Big Brother control of a once free people. This is exactly what dictatorships and totalitarian governments do. And since he has lied time and time again, we can certainly believe that they are probably opening your mail, cross-referencing your credit report and your driving record and your medical records and your political affiliations. Apparently the motto of this administration is No Crime Left Unbroken."

But no. We get lame-ass campaign crap. We get complete agreement with their fantasy 'problems' and mealy-mouthed disagreement with their methods. It really angers me and makes me fear that we won't take back anything in '06 or '08.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 11:10 PM
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14. don't worry. be happy!
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 11:10 PM
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15. you should be running for office...action is what matters nt
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 12:03 AM
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16. You know, Tweety on Olbermann tonight said that Durbin
and the Democrats basically came out in line with the Bush on immigration! I heard the excerpt of Durbin's response and have to agree.

Kitp, you outline precisely how poorly the Democrats state their case--with much time wasted playing nicey-nice with the crappy Republican plans.

By the way, our friend Durbin is pushing that bill that will cripple health food/vitamin manufacturers. He's another one I don't exactly put blind faith in anymore...
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