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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 10:51 PM
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Our Dem leaders are ignoring the will of its people
Read any poll on immigration and what people want and then listen to Harry Reid speak . He wants amnesty for illegals . I hear most Democrats in Congress are with Bush on his "temporary work" Amnesty deal that rewards illegal immigration. So who are these guys listening to? If most Democrats are against amnesty, why are the leaders ignoring us?
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 10:52 PM
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1. Are most Democrats against amnesty?
link?
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 10:53 PM
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3. Read any poll that asks questions about this
including the unscientific ones Ive seen on DU. Its obvious.
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 11:06 PM
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5. Here's an unscientific one
Edited on Mon May-15-06 11:12 PM by Tiggeroshii
..so far that isn't the case. However any link to a scientific poll would be appreciated.

Thanks!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2628668&mesg_id=2628668
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 02:33 AM
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7. like this scientific one?
http://www.zogby.com/NEWS/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1100

that shows Democrats overwhelmingly support amnesty 51-29 ?
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 04:02 AM
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9. It's hardly obvious!
Guess maybe you read different posts and talk to different people than I do.
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 10:53 PM
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2. Are "most" Democrats against amnesty????
That's the first I've heard of any significant polling.
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SlipperySlope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 11:05 PM
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4. They don't give a flying crap about what the people want
Edited on Mon May-15-06 11:07 PM by SlipperySlope
The pools say:

60% of republicans oppose amnesty.
55% of democrats oppose amnesty.
60% of union members oppose amnesty.
51% of hispanic citizens oppose amnesty.

Obviously the people are opposed to amnesty - but this is about BIG BUSINESS and CHEAP LABOR. Can't do anything to upset the fat cats. Besides, if the Democrats and the Rethuglicans stand side-by-side, they think that they can't loose voters to the other side.

Washington corrupts.
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 11:08 PM
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6. Is it really obvious? We are talking about Democrats here
not racist Freepers. Of course they are against amnesty, they don't want 11 million new Democratic voters.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 04:32 AM
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15. Short term political gain does not solve this problem at either
a national or an international level. It perpetuates corporate/employer illegal activity and does not correct the trade and labor standards for workers worldwide.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:37 AM
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8. Reid puts his hands on hands-off issues and keeps his hands off
hands-on issues.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 04:08 AM
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10. Reid is protecting the big hotel industry in Las Vegas.
That's how he begins each speech he's made on the topic--describing the detriment to the hotel industry in Vegas.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:17 AM
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16. That makes sense.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 04:09 AM
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11. Dem leaders instead should be screaming about scrapping NAFTA
and replacing it with a program that favors workers instead of corporations. Our democratic leaders have to help the workers in Mexico make a decent living, or they'll continue to cross the border. It's that freakin' simple!
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 04:26 AM
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13. Absolutely!!!
The place at which Dems have chosen to focus on this issue is just plain wrong. This is both a labor and national security issue.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 04:31 AM
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14. This is a chance for dem leaders to shine with the working class,
instead they'll fall into the hole dug by the republicans!
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mortlefaucheur Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 04:19 AM
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12. and FReeps are tearing their hair out...
The politicians in D.C. have pretty much arrived at a consensus that precludes consideration of opinion from either the Left or the Right base on this issue.
No wonder the chimp is throwing feces at his betters.
No one is winning at this point except that present conditions at the border with Mexico are leaving GOPer's desperately defensive and hypocritical.
Typical.
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