Hmmm, detention camps. Can we call them Nazis yet? Or is that still taboo?

[Cyrano]

Yeah, I know. They don't have any gas chambers (as far as we know). Do we wait until then? Would anyone have a problem with the term Nazi at that point?

[stepnw1f]

1. I Call Them Nazis Everyday

if people want to be more PC, insert Nazi-like.

[NJ_Lib]

2. Or maybe, with Nazi-Flavoring?.... n/t

[Cyrano]

4. My guess is that if gas chambers come into being, they'll be called

Cheney Rooms to disguise their true purpose. Although a Cheney Room really sounds like someplace you'd walk into and someone would shoot you in the face with a shotgun.

[TechBear_Seattle]

3. "Fascists" works just as well. n/t

[TahitiNut]

5. Until they murder 11 million people, were not allowed to call them Nazis.

We're not allowed to make comparisons. We're not allowed to learn from the past. We're not allowed to identify the inherently corrupt ideologies of fascism. That wouldn't be 'politically correct.'

I call 'em fascists. The Bushoilini Regime.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

6. REX 84....the camps are already here....

FEMA Concentration Camps:
Locations and Executive Orders
<http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2004/FEMA-Concentration-Camps3sep04.htm>

QUOTE:

There over 800 prison camps in the United States, all fully operational and ready to receive prisoners. They are all staffed and even surrounded by full-time guards, but they are all empty. These camps are to be operated by FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) should Martial Law need to be implemented in the United States and all it would take is a presidential signature on a proclamation and the attorney general's signature on a warrant to which a list of names is attached. Ask yourself if you really want to be on Ashcroft's list. The Rex 84 Program was established on the reasoning that if a "mass exodus" of illegal aliens crossed the Mexican/US border, they would be quickly rounded up and detained in detention centers by FEMA. Rex 84 allowed many military bases to be closed down and to be turned into prisons.

Operation Cable Splicer and Garden Plot are the two sub programs which will be implemented once the Rex 84 program is initiated for its proper purpose. Garden Plot is the program to control the population. Cable Splicer is the program for an orderly takeover of the state and local governments by the federal government. FEMA is the executive arm of the coming police state and thus will head up all operations. The Presidential Executive Orders already listed on the Federal Register also are part of the legal framework for this operation.

Since this article was written in 2004, FEMA has fallen from grace. Homeland Security is probably managing these camps directly.

Note also the recent quarantine orders that could be used as a pretext to move segments of the population into some of these camps.

[C_U_L8R]

7. Garden Plot ???? Garden Plot ???

A programs to control the population... by burying them???

This is absolutely NUTS !!

[originalpckelly]

9. It was an exercise in...

1984!!!!!
Read here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_84

[treestar]

19. Can this be truly verified. One would think even the sheeple would

get nervous at the idea.

On the other hand, they probably think they are for terrorists.

[endarkenment]

8. Fascist or neo-fascist or theo-fascist is more accurate.

The NSPD was a specific instance of fascism, with its own peculiar twists. Our own home grown 'merican fascism has theocratic roots along with its corporatist corruption and nationalist/imperialist ambitions. The best parallel is in my opinion Il Duce, not der Fuehrer.

[The2ndWheel]

10. Why even call them Nazis?

It's not as if America hasn't put people in detention camps before. Just call them Americans. It's easier.

Same way that you no longer need a German accent when asking for someone's papers. "Hey, gimme your papers jackass", works just as well.

[NJ_Lib]

11. Wow...

... You're right... Sad but oh-so true...

[PATRICK]

12. Part and parcel of all history's bad guys

Why settle for one? Any totalitarian, racist regime. Any divisive, ethnic cleansing, state cult, state religion regime. Any imperialistic war/profit state. Any denier of human rights and controller of knowledge of life and death. Any that hand over basic human needs to greed. Any that base economics on injustice, Ponzi pyramids, fraud, death dealing polluters and poisoners and limiters of education and health care and housing. Any that lie, that defraud voters, propagandize the citizens.

Is there anyone bad Bush has NOT borrowed heavily from, in essence and fact?

Using a TIA analogy in order to believe the Bushistas and the fascists have nothing in common you'd have to deny
that the opposition and unpopular minorities are targeted and persecuted
that civil rights have been surrendered en masse for the national emergency
that the current government is legitimate and fairly elected
that pre-emptive invasions of other nations for profit and territory and empire have happened
that the courts are being turned into rubber stamps for centralized power
that cronyism and belligerent narrow patriotism exist
that the weak, uninsured, the poor and the elderly are threatened by domestic policy
that power over the armed forces and domestic spying is centralized to the president
that labor unions are not protected, protected and are under attack
that layers of crony bureaucracy are covering over the government human service bureaucracy
that hate radio and controlled propaganda totally supporting the regime simply are happening
that our Leader loves new supertoys and grandiose impractical plans
that our Leader is bungling his management of our superior military machine
that blitzkrieg and occupation and relentless eternal war is part of the American course
that fear and suspicion is part of the general national reality
that the administration hates and fears and despises the populace that "lets them down" by not supporting and making their plans work.

And on and on. But you could do the same with Stalinism and East Germany, the Turkish Empire. The only exceptions are atrocities and horrors that have not happened yet but will, because they CAN with so many freedoms flushed easily down the drain of democratic impotence. So sure, no one has sent twenty million to Siberia, but Siberia is coming to us and more people can be killed by poisoning, nutrition starving, cigarettes, higher speed limits, guns for the poor to kill each other, than the police and army could possibly compete with should they be so inclined. It is when the people are suffering most from the effects of crony capitalism, that the infrastructure that lulls while it disempowers is itself crumbling, that the armed exigency must be called upon.

It is the sum and example of all tyranny gone mad. Why single out the Nazis? Because it is comforting to speak of branded monsters, some executed, who LOST and to the American people. The irony is these same corporate Nazis have been corrupting and using the very people, with direct money ties, who now are imposing their ideology to turn the victors of WWII into the enemy.

[Cyrano]

17. Just left one thing out. Most fascist regimes didn't have nuclear weapons.

Stalin did, but he wasn't so crazed that he didn't understand Mutual Assured Destruction.

There is no doubt in my mind that if the Bush regime sees a credible threat from the American people, (or elsewhere), or sees itself on the verge of being brought to justice, they will launch everything they have.

I really believe that these maniacs would prefer to destroy the entire world, rather than face a court of justice that would hold them responsible for their crimes and their attempts to destroy any semblance of human decency.

I'll never again have a decent nights sleep until these people are out of power, and locked away where they can never again be a threat to this planet.

[Octafish]

13. Halliburton got the contract. Here's the press release...

2006 Press Releases

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: January 24, 2006

KBR AWARDED U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY CONTINGENCY SUPPORT PROJECT FOR EMERGENCY SUPPORT SERVICES

ARLINGTON, Virginia – KBR announced today that its Government and Infrastructure division has been awarded an Indefinite Delivery/Indefinite Quantity (IDIQ) contract to support the Department of Homeland Security’s (DHS) U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) facilities in the event of an emergency. KBR is the engineering and construction subsidiary of Halliburton (NYSE:HAL).

With a maximum total value of $385 million over a five-year term, consisting of a one-year based period and four one-year options, the competitively awarded contract will be executed by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, Fort Worth District. KBR held the previous ICE contract from 2000 through 2005.

“We are especially gratified to be awarded this contract because it builds on our extremely strong track record in the arena of emergency operations support,” said Bruce Stanski, executive vice president, KBR Government and Infrastructure. “We look forward to continuing the good work we have been doing to support our customer whenever and wherever we are needed.”

The contract, which is effective immediately, provides for establishing temporary detention and processing capabilities to augment existing ICE Detention and Removal Operations (DRO) Program facilities in the event of an emergency influx of immigrants into the U.S., or to support the rapid development of new programs. The contingency support contract provides for planning and, if required, initiation of specific engineering, construction and logistics support tasks to establish, operate and maintain one or more expansion facilities.

The contract may also provide migrant detention support to other U.S. Government organizations in the event of an immigration emergency, as well as the development of a plan to react to a national emergency, such as a natural disaster. In the event of a natural disaster, the contractor could be tasked with providing housing for ICE personnel performing law enforcement functions in support of relief efforts.

ICE was established in March 2003 as the largest investigative arm of the Department of Homeland Security. ICE is comprised of four integrated divisions that form a 21st century law enforcement agency with broad responsibilities for a number of key homeland security priorities.

KBR is a global engineering, construction, technology and services company. Whether designing an LNG facility, serving as a defense industry contractor, or providing small capital construction, KBR delivers world-class service and performance. KBR employs more than 60,000 people in 43 countries around the world.

Halliburton, founded in 1919, is one of the world's largest providers of products and services to the petroleum and energy industries. The company serves its customers with a broad range of products and services through its Energy Services Group and KBR. Visit the company's World Wide Web site at www.halliburton.com.

SOURCE: http://www.halliburton.com/default/main/halliburton/eng/news/source_files/news.jsp?newsurl=/default/main/halliburton/eng/news/source_files/press_release/2006/kbrnws_012406.html

[originalpckelly]

14. The PC term for this would be:

liberty-world-view-challenged-highly-organized-officials
^Nazis

Remember people, we have a differently abled President, not a retarded-ass President. We have a Vice President who is not a man-penguin, but a VP who is species-diverse.

These aren't "concentration-camps," but officially re-purposed beds, cement, and iron.

Or even better:
These aren't "concentration-camps," but summer-fall-winter-and-spring camps.

[Rocknrule]

15. I can hear the Freepers now:

"Bush isn't Hitler! He's only killed 5,999,999 people!"

[godhatesrepublicans]

16. I've been calling them Nazis since the Reagan days.

I'm just glad the rest of you have woken up. ;-)

[QuettaKid]

18. whats this about detention camps?

I have heard all about the Rex 84 thing...is there something new I am missing?

[godhatesrepublicans]

20. rex 84, from wikipedia. Bless Google for existing...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_84

Rex 84
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Rex 84, short for Readiness Exercise 1984, was a plan by the United States federal government to test their ability to detain large numbers of American citizens in case of massive civil unrest or national emergency. Exercises similar to Rex 84 happen periodically. From 1967 to 1971 the FBI kept a list of persons to be rounded up as subversive, dubbed the "ADEX" list. (Donner, Age p. 166.)

According to scholar Diana Reynolds:

The Rex-84 Alpha Explan (Readiness Exercise 1984, Exercise Plan), indicates that FEMA in association with 34 other federal civil departments and agencies conducted a civil readiness exercise during April 5-13, 1984. It was conducted in coordination and simultaneously with a Joint Chiefs exercise, Night Train 84, a worldwide military command post exercise (including Continental U.S. Forces or CONUS) based on multi-emergency scenarios operating both abroad and at home. In the combined exercise, Rex-84 Bravo, FEMA and DOD led the other federal agencies and departments, including the Central Intelligence Agency, the Secret Service, the Treasury, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and the Veterans Administration through a gaming exercise to test military assistance in civil defense.

The exercise anticipated civil disturbances, major demonstrations and strikes that would affect continuity of government and/or resource mobilization. To fight subversive activities, there was authorization for the military to implement government ordered movements of civilian populations at state and regional levels, the arrest of certain unidentified segments of the population, and the imposition of martial rule. <1>

Existence of a master military contingency plan, "Garden Plot" and a similar earlier exercise, "Lantern Spike" were originally revealed by alternative journalist Ron Ridenhour, who summarized his findings in "Garden Plot and the New Action Army", (CounterSpy, 1975).

Rex 84 was mentioned during the Iran-Contra Hearings in 1987, and subsequently reported on by the Miami Herald on July 5, 1987. As news of the exercise spread, it was amplified by networks of people pursuing more elaborate conspiracy theories. <2>